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#781416 - 10/09/08 12:09 AM Re: CAM - QueBaratoenArgentina.com - Reviews * [Re: akia1]
heydude Offline
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Registered: 10/22/02
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Loc: Kentucky
well they final wrote me back about my missing order and test pack what a bunch of [censored]


Hi
the pack was sent on 09/04, i'm sorry we can't keep trying if
you're not going to receive it.
this situation is not new. We are in this business now from 8 years
ago and we have seen the evolution of this business. I can tell you
that the first 5 years we have worked were perfect , may be one of
ten packs were seized and they ussualy sent the LL. The things came
worst then, each day is more difficult to get trough the customs
and that's because they have a goverment indication of burn , stole
and keep the meds sent from another country in defense of their
proper economy. We understund that this isn't wrong because they
have their reasons, but now we have to understund that our business
is not the same. We are not earning the same because we ussually
have to reship the pills at very very low cost. This is the "why"
of the situation. However we want to keep working on this because
it's our job and we are always improving our packaging and sending
in different ways. We are having a succes of 65% to USA and 90% to
Europe and Asia. We are now sending all the orders in packs no
bigger than 100 pills. And always warn our clients about for
example the risky of the PO Boxes and that Denvers are less noisy
than Alplax. We only want to keep doing our best job but it's
difficult with the US putting such restrictions on South American
Inbound packages.
If you want to try you can order a 100 pills pack and we think
that's the safety way to get in most the packs ordered.
Thanks for everything.
DF
they cant keep trying the only thing they tried was to send a test pack of 2 foil packs that i never got or recieved a ll for they make it sound like they resent my whole order but they didnt so cam is dead to me here is my final results
i am out about 800 dollars of my last two orders together which would have been 8 packs i got 1 and 2 letters so that is 5 packs that just disappeared plus the test pack
i know that people are going to think it wont happen to them and order from cam the scam cause i used to be one of them but it ended up happening to me and now i wish i had listened to all the people that said cam is scam for every 1 person who is happy there are 3 or 4 that are not just read through this thread cam will sucker you in and then rip you off

cam is a scam


Edited by heydude (10/09/08 12:13 AM)
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#781903 - 10/09/08 07:11 PM Re: CAM - QueBaratoenArgentina.com - Reviews [Re: heydude]
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This forum is to post personal experiences, please stay on topic.

Do NOT post questions or comments in this thread. We have other threads for that. We have another forum for questions and an open forum... this one is reserved for reviews from those that used the service. Please help us by posting in the proper forums...


Edited by Melody (10/13/08 06:19 AM)

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#782537 - 10/10/08 09:18 PM Re: CAM - QueBaratoenArgentina.com - Reviews [Re: heydude]
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just for the record i ordered maybe 6 months ago and nothing...then i paid for a reship and got it in the usual timeframe...10-14 days but then out of nowhere i got an LL that said a package containing alprazolam which couldn't have been my original order cause that also had diazepam in it so my guess is he said something about denver xannnies as a free bonus so i think it was those that got seized...figures he tries to send me free denvers and they get seized...cam is very unreliable now and i would stay away... he needs to change his packaging and be smarter if he is trying to run an honest buisness but i highly doubt he's legit anymore and its a damn shame cause back in the day he was the very reliable go to man for great quality and inexpensive gadors...its too bad

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#783663 - 10/13/08 06:10 AM Re: CAM - QueBaratoenArgentina.com - Reviews [Re: ]
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recieved pack of 60 from cam on saturday. 240 left to recieve from july.

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#787213 - 10/18/08 02:07 PM Re: CAM - QueBaratoenArgentina.com - Reviews [Re: tootie111]
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Received 2nd pack of 60

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#787233 - 10/18/08 03:03 PM Re: CAM - QueBaratoenArgentina.com - Reviews [Re: tootie111]
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Recieved 1 pak of missing July order. Waiting on 2 more.

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#788515 - 10/20/08 10:35 PM Re: CAM - QueBaratoenArgentina.com - Reviews [Re: jjt6]
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ordered 2 months ago and hevent gotten a thing...
he is a scammer, i didnt look at the recent posts before i ordered, i only looked at the older ones and got excited about the great prices..
ordering from CAM is stupid.
i ordered 100 that he never shipped, then they told me theyd send 30 so that i can test them...?
BEWARE

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#788519 - 10/20/08 11:02 PM Re: CAM - QueBaratoenArgentina.com - Reviews [Re: karl424]
heydude Offline
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sorry to hear that karl424 but welcome to scammed by cam club
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#789087 - 10/21/08 10:10 PM Re: CAM - QueBaratoenArgentina.com - Reviews [Re: Jdingle]
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I have been debating trying them for about a month now, my friends have had success with them, I just don't really have the money to take the lose on a failed shipment, also I can't decide wich of the 3 choices is the best quality. Whichever my friend was getting from them felt like they were only 1mg not 2. Any suggestions on best brand?

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#789104 - 10/21/08 11:43 PM Re: CAM - QueBaratoenArgentina.com - Reviews [Re: stephenky98]
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i suggest you not order from cam cause you will not get what you pay for if you are lucky you might get half but hey its up to you good luck

cam is a scam
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#789156 - 10/22/08 07:17 AM Re: CAM - QueBaratoenArgentina.com - Reviews [Re: heydude]
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do not order the denvers small and blue. thats probably what you are talking about stephink

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#789170 - 10/22/08 07:30 AM Re: CAM - QueBaratoenArgentina.com - Reviews [Re: heydude]
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CAM did a great job for many years. Anyone that has been around knows this. I do not think that they are so much scammers, just poor businessmen. The fact that Argentina is RED HOT to customs, does not help matters. It also did not help that DF was often sloppy and lacked ANY innovations in his packaging. These combined losses are exceeding the feasibility of reships, even to good, long-time customers. That was the beginning of the end in my book. This source appears to be effectively out of business IMO.

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#789195 - 10/22/08 08:29 AM Re: CAM - QueBaratoenArgentina.com - Reviews [Re: tootie111]
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 Originally Posted By: tootie111
do not order the denvers small and blue. thats probably what you are talking about stephink


Actually they are green oval with one score. There is a pic of them posted somewhere. And from reports I have read, most regard them as good if not better than brand alplax (gador).
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#789856 - 10/23/08 06:47 AM Re: CAM - QueBaratoenArgentina.com - Reviews [Re: funkybreakz]
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My first post!

I was a regular with CAM before it renamed itself and got "big". We're talking almost 5 years here of no problem orders. That changed almost one year ago: Got the 1st LL ever and whole lots of bs emails. I just chalked it off and won't deal with these guys again.

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#789881 - 10/23/08 07:17 AM Re: CAM - QueBaratoenArgentina.com - Reviews [Re: funkybreakz]
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they are no where near the gadors in my opinion. what do you guys think about the anseilex2

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#792014 - 10/26/08 09:54 AM Re: CAM - QueBaratoenArgentina.com - Reviews [Re: jjt6]
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received 2nd of 3 packs of july order. I don't know what to make of them. definatly not like they were but not sure if they're a rip-off or just disorganized. They are having trouble at their end for sure. Find them hard to recommend, but have not completley given up. Don't know if I'd shell out new money for another order, will have to wait for 3rd pack and check this board.

jj

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#792017 - 10/26/08 09:58 AM Re: CAM - QueBaratoenArgentina.com - Reviews [Re: funkybreakz]
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I agree, they are at least as good as gadors maybe a little stronger, however I perfer Gadors, easier for me to split. Tried to 1/4 a denver with a pill splitter, they are hard, got 1/2 the other 1/2 busted up.

jj

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#795014 - 10/30/08 06:26 PM Re: CAM - QueBaratoenArgentina.com - Reviews [Re: jjt6]
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A buddy of mine who had been a long time customer sent like a million emails to CAM and DID get a very small packet. This buddy has decided to stop dancing with this outfit. I myself just cannot make up my mind.

Anybody got any better ideas who to order from these days? We've tried Starlite with mixed quality. Quantity was spot on...but we're not sure it's a full 2mg of alprazolam. It, howver, IS aplrazolam.....

It's such a bad deal/shame "CAM" has become what they've become.....

Is ANYBODY having success with CAM because it could just be a USA effort where very specific areas are targets.....

Thank you.

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#797142 - 11/03/08 12:39 PM Re: CAM - QueBaratoenArgentina.com - Reviews [Re: jjt6]
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Having a problem right now with CAM. Said they could not pick up the $ because it sat there more than 15 days. Now MG says the $ was picked up the next day.

MG wants me to do an investigation. Originally, the whole transaction was red flagged @ MG because I told them I was buying computer parts and MG stated that what I said did not match what they have on file with the receiver?

In any case I am waiting for a reply. I had not purchased anything for over a year from them, but now it looks like something might have changed. Hopefully they will make it right or give me a satisfactory answer.

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#798400 - 11/05/08 10:30 AM Re: CAM - QueBaratoenArgentina.com - Reviews [Re: MAX5WM]
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thats why i never use mg wu asks no questions and dont even want to see id

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#800118 - 11/08/08 11:50 AM Re: CAM - QueBaratoenArgentina.com - Reviews [Re: jjt6]
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Got final pack of a reship from July order. Like others have said, there's a problem somewhere with them. I'm not saying they're a rip-off but I could not recommend them and would not use again until I see some positive feedback on the boards.
Anyone know of other IOP's in same area with same brands. I've been reading the boards but they get very hard to follow with so much BS.

jj

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#800215 - 11/08/08 02:31 PM Re: CAM - QueBaratoenArgentina.com - Reviews [Re: jjt6]
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I have had late arrivals, but quanity and quality are always top notch. They had some issues with European orders being stolen and had to work to straighten out that mess and I think (HOPE) they have finally gotten back to business as usual...... Sent 4 1 today, I will TRY to get back and report.

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#800246 - 11/08/08 03:49 PM Re: CAM - QueBaratoenArgentina.com - Reviews [Re: frubious]
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 Originally Posted By: frubious
I have had late arrivals, but quanity and quality are always top notch. They had some issues with European orders being stolen and had to work to straighten out that mess and I think (HOPE) they have finally gotten back to business as usual...... Sent 4 1 today, I will TRY to get back and report.



You sent money to CAM? Are you clinically insane?

Yeah, they might sell 2mg Alprazolam pills, but you're better off buying plenty of 1mg pills from legit sources that actually send you what you ordered.


The CAM scam has become old. People who still order from them deserve to loose their money; they should have done their homework...

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#800317 - 11/08/08 07:02 PM Re: CAM - QueBaratoenArgentina.com - Reviews [Re: Lidlwonder]
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Thanks wonder for your encourageing post, comments like that really make this board a positive and informative place. I guess that comes under the guidelines of this Forum, Feedback & Reviews. Wonder why I have to read 20 pages to get some kind of info on what I'm searching for.

Man have things changed, not just the election.

jj

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#800331 - 11/08/08 07:57 PM Re: CAM - QueBaratoenArgentina.com - Reviews [Re: jjt6]
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 Originally Posted By: jjt6
Thanks wonder for your encourageing post, comments like that really make this board a positive and informative place. I guess that comes under the guidelines of this Forum, Feedback & Reviews. Wonder why I have to read 20 pages to get some kind of info on what I'm searching for.

Man have things changed, not just the election.

jj


good to hear you got your entire CAM order JJ.

how long did it take start to finish?

and i agree with regards to some opinions on this board that seem to come from the same couple of people.

sometimes i wonder why they even use IOPs when they never have any good feedback.


Edited by funkybreakz (11/08/08 08:15 PM)
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#800386 - 11/08/08 10:52 PM Re: CAM - QueBaratoenArgentina.com - Reviews [Re: funkybreakz]
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want some feed back ordered in middle of july didnt even send it for 2 weeks after getting my money out of 5 packs they say they sent i got 2 lls and nothing else and if you want to go back and check my posts from a year ago i was a huge cam fan but now they are nothing but a bunch of liars and thieves


CAM is a SCAM

wish it was not true but i am sorry to say it is i have the empty wallet and no meds to prove it
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#800406 - 11/09/08 04:23 AM Re: CAM - QueBaratoenArgentina.com - Reviews [Re: jjt6]
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 Originally Posted By: jjt6
Thanks wonder for your encourageing post, comments like that really make this board a positive and informative place. I guess that comes under the guidelines of this Forum, Feedback & Reviews. Wonder why I have to read 20 pages to get some kind of info on what I'm searching for.

Man have things changed, not just the election.

jj


Always a pleasure.

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#800416 - 11/09/08 05:56 AM Re: CAM - QueBaratoenArgentina.com - Reviews [Re: heydude]
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 Originally Posted By: heydude
want some feed back ordered in middle of july didnt even send it for 2 weeks after getting my money out of 5 packs they say they sent i got 2 lls and nothing else and if you want to go back and check my posts from a year ago i was a huge cam fan but now they are nothing but a bunch of liars and thieves


CAM is a SCAM

wish it was not true but i am sorry to say it is i have the empty wallet and no meds to prove it


i remember reading those posts hey dude... and it it horrible that you lost out on so much $. but placing orders that large is a risk both personally and money wise in my book. as many say... never send more than you can afford to lose.. no matter how good the IOP seems. ordering from these outfits is ALWAYS a gamble.

why not break them up in to reasonable sized orders? 1. your risk of losing money is minimal, and 2 you do not have enough pills coming to an address that could be construed as intent to sell.

i know they used to break up their large orders into several shipments, but that is just more chance of seizures in my book.

if you ask me, it was either the change of ownership, or too much attention that killed CAM. (or both)

but when you have literally thousands of the same type of package coming through CPB, they are bound to catch on at some point. i think the over exposure was the ultimate demise. now that not many are patronizing, we are actually seeing some positive feedback, such as JJ receiving all of his order.


Edited by funkybreakz (11/09/08 06:05 AM)
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#800453 - 11/09/08 09:22 AM Re: CAM - QueBaratoenArgentina.com - Reviews [Re: funkybreakz]
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Hey funky, original order was from July. It wasn't very big I got small part 10 days after ordering, about 2 weeks later got another small part. In Sept. I contacted them and they said they'd send a test order. Got that 2 weeks later. They said they would send balance for a small extra payment.
1st reship date was oct. 8. recieved Oct. 16
2nd recieved Oct. 26
3rd received Nov. 7.

These are aprox. dates. I know they had problems at the begining of the year when someone was on vacation. Then they seemed to have problems in April, because their auto response emails said they were working on April mix ups. I had no trouble with them till July order.
I feel for HEYDUDE, I know that sucks. Their prices and products were great but I would have to wait for more positive feedback before ordering again. This order took 4 months, I know this can happen with IOP's, but that's a long time. I got no LL's.

Hope this helps, still would like to know of another IOP in same location with same products.

jj

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#800509 - 11/09/08 12:34 PM Re: CAM - QueBaratoenArgentina.com - Reviews [Re: Lidlwonder]
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CAM as in cheapargenmeds, right? Never had a problem in 3 years.........

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