Has anyone placed any orders with IM4U in Sept. or early Oct. and gotten them yet? From what I am reading here, it seems like they have become unreliable? Has anyone had any luck in the most recent months?

I ordered Sep 27 and received 1 out of 4 packages.

I ordered on Oct. 5th and received one of four packets on Oct. 21st. Still waiting for the others so something has happened during this time frame, most likely with the Indian postal service. I have always gotten everything for over two years so it is very strange. He said to wait another week.

Codeine is nothing like Oxycontin. Codeine is derived from opiates seperate from morphine. Morphine, if you read about opium plants, comes from them, or can be made into:

1. Oxycodone - Oxycontin is just a type of this that can be used like heroin - in can be snorted or shot up, which is why its so popular, because you cant do that with regular oxycodone, which is mostly called as Percocet/Percodan but has many brandnames. It's the strongest aside from morphine and dilaudid.

2. Hydrocodone - Mostly known as Vicodin and Norco, it is weaker in my experience from dental work and often makes people sick to their stomach (like my, and my girlfriend.)

There's also hydromorphone and oxymorphone but I don't think their common - I know they're not as strong and so people don't like using them.

You can look this all up on Wikipedia. Many pills contain APAP which Wikipedia says can really hurt your liver.

Wolf

I went ahead and ordered from IM4U today 11/10 so hopefully I will get something in a few weeks or more likely it sounds like I hope they will send a couple of packages and I will get them all, not just one.

Lidwonder - have you posted about bad experiences? As I said, I ordered from Raj for many, many years with very few problems and always a lot of support from him. I even visited him and stayed at his house when I was travelling in Asia and he was very helpful and kind. I am very confused by why you think OS4U was so bad?

Have you posted why you think Raj stole ppl's money? I haven't seen anything.

Just tried to place an order here. WU would not take the order and canceled it.

MG is alot easier and went thru for me. WU can be a pain plus MG was 10 bucks

Holly shoot these guys prices are unbelieveable.
I dont like waiting but 30 x 10m Diazepam for $23 (thats £15).

They are presumably generics, so Id be interested to hear anyones experience are they any good.

Whats with all the zeros, $23.000000, Hope he aint gonna try and charge me 23 grand for 30 pills.

Im in the UK, can anyone from the UK recommend this guy and tell me are his vals any good. Thanks R.


Also I see he only takes Money Gram or Western Union. Ive googled them both and ppl seem to thing MG is better, but WU Charges £6.90 i think it was for £15 to be sent to india, whereas moneygram charge me £12 for any small payment like for around that amount its always 12, I dunno why ppl are saying MG is cheaper, WU seems cheaper to me?

I don't know about valium, but other things like alprazolam and zolpidem are ok, not the strongest I've had but definitely active.

The zeros are just bad web programming and it's just 23 bucks, it's a point not a 23,000.

MG is cheaper than WU for me but WU is more accesible, depends on the country

I've tried IM4U valium and was pleasantly surprised because I thought they were very good. They came blister packed, they were white and double scored.

I also think for the price they can't be beat. The main downfall unfortunately is delivery time and the requirement to use Western Union for payment as well as the location of the source. Of course the delivery time is out of their control and orders to the USA are subject to going through customs, that's out of their control of course and shouldn't really reflect on their service quality.

When I ordered from them, they split the packs for some reason. I suppose because I ordered more than one product at a time. They were pleasant about re-shipping which also didn't make it through twice. I received LLs (http://www.drugbuyers.com/loveletter/) for each of the missing packages. They reshipped a total of three times before I finally received the 2nd half of my order and I did have to write them a stern email before they were willing to ship a 3rd time. I was not abusive in any of my emails, I just expressed my displeasure with US customs and Raj told me he doesn't usually reship 3 times but he made an exception I assume because I was a new customer.

That was my one and only order from IM4U, by the time I received my entire order it took a total of 5 months. I never ordered again, not because of anything IM4U did, just simply because of the hassle with US customs. At the time of my order, I had much success with other providers. But I thought Raj was a great guy to even entertain the idea of shipping to me a total of 4 times. I think he's a great guy and the valium matched his great service. I was very pleased with it.

If it wasn't such a hassle, I'd order his valium in a New York minute if I didn't have insurance and it wasn't such a big deal. The price can't be beat for the quality, quite surprising to receive such a high quality generic particularly from India, just as good if not better than some generic valiums I've received from a US pharmacy.

So it's great quality like I said, but you have to be a somewhat of a gambler. If you keep your orders small, you'll be best off making multiple small orders. That way you'll have a better chance of getting at least some of your orders, kind of just the odds of ordering overseas really.

I placed order with IM4U on 22 Oct; received LL on 6 Nov (my first LL, ugh) contacted Raj (he appears to be an honest individual) and will reship as soon as he can. This was my first order with them, but have heard good things about them.





"Conformity is death"

The Vallium are white Roches and are not generic, best i've had. They have Vallium 10 written on the front and are double scored on the back, just like the roche Rivotril. They melt in your mouth a bit and work fast. I love them but the wait and reships is annoying with this IOP.

RochesPlease

Exactly my point, i was saying that the phosphate wasn't oxycontin.

Since there are several misconceptions in this post I'll try to address it in pieces.
1. Rather than codeine being "nothing like OxyContin (oxycodone)", it is very similar chemically to oxycodone.
2. OxyContin is a "form" of oxycodone in that it is formulated in an extended release tablet. However, it is no different than IR oxycodone in its ability to be snorted or shot up like heroin. The only reason OxyContin has become more popular in this regard is it comes in higher doses than oxycodone, up to 80 mg per tablet.
3. On an equivalent oral dose basis, oxycodone is not the strongest aside from morphine and Dilaudid. Methadone, oxymorphone and Levorphanol are all stronger per mg than oxycodone. Some equivalencies estimate that oxycodone and morphine are basically equipotent orally.
4. Hydromorphone (Dilaudid) and oxymorphone are in fact stronger mg per mg orally rather than "not as strong."
5. As an aside, hydrocodone and oxycodone are also very similar in chemical structure and urban legend has it that the name Vicodin comes from the combination of Latin numeral VI (6) and codin (codeine). Vicodin is usually estimated to be 6 times more potent than codeine.
6. Codeine is not "derived from opiates seperate from morphine." Codeine and morphine are both produced from opium poppies.
You are correct about the link between excess APAP consumption and liver problems, though.
Please don't take these corrections negatively but when people read this discussion board for advice and personal education about drugs, it's definitely more helpful if the information listed is factual.

That was a bit much considering it was factual, and some are man made opioids and some opiates. But good facts also.

RochesPlease

It is always £6.90 to send under £100 to India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Nepal using Westernunion.co.uk; however, it costs us £12 to send money to Holland or France. Distance obviously means nothing as far as WU goes.

As for the benzo brand strength debate: may I just say...blah blah blah blah blah -- blah? HORSES FOR COURSES

I use moneygram costs £4.99 to India, its to do with the resturants and the amount of people that send money back there as to why it is cheaper.

RochesPlease

has anyone received anything lately from this iop? this has been my first time user raj and i ordered on the 22nd of oct and still nothing.

also do you have to sign when it gets delivered

PLEASE EVERYONE MEKE SURE THEY ARE ORDERING FROM THE RIGHT RAJ MIXED FEEDBACK IS OF NO HELP TO ANYONE SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS

Wasn't trying to write a medical book, but give some general advice - telling someone to read up on Wikipedia or other Web sites was the main idea.



That's like saying 2% milk is like half-n-half. Of course they're similar. But the extraction process for morphine is very different than that for codeine, as are the final products, even if they do come from the same source. Codeine is very weak compared to morphine although ultimately the way codeine works is that your body converts it to morphine.



Good to know but unless you have health insurance with really good prescription coverage and a doctor who is willing to prescribe pain meds without being worried about losing their license which they have spent many years and thousands of dollars getting - anyway, good luck getting anything you mention here. Methadone you can probably get if you are a heroin addict and can get on a program but I have not every heard of it prescribed as pain medication.



Sorry, didn't write that part correctly but I figure that Wikipedia and other internet sources can be looked up. Can't hurt to share it here though, thank you for the correction. Although again good luck getting a prescription, and so on.



I did not say they did not both come from opium poppies, but I thought that you can get codeine and morphine separately from them, like getting milk and cream from the same source. Is that wrong?



Hard not to since I wasnt' trying to write a long factual medical book but just throw out some general info and tell people they should look things up. If you like sharing information thats great but there are nicer ways of putting it I think. But since I also think that it is better to have information that is correct, I don't take them negatively. Esp. since I wasn't trying to write a book but point out people can look up resources.

Myabe it would be a good idea to go to Wikipedia and fix some of the information there since that's where most of it came from? Wolf

Has anyone had any problems getting their Web site to come up?

To answer your question, while it is chemically possible to individually isolate both morphine and codeine (which is morphine monomethyl ether as an alkaloid) from the poppy plant, the vast majority of codeine produced today is chemically converted from morphine that has been extracted from specially cultivated poppy plants.
Also, since you seem to be very interested in this subject, I'm surprised that you are unaware of Methadone's use as a pain medication. It is currently in wide use in pain management treatment because of its low cost, duration of action and reduced likelihood of abuse. The typical prescription dosage levels are much lower than Methadone used in an opiate replacement therapy "program."

To give a complete anwser, no.( not when I check)

I think the web site has much fewer problems that the postal system.

Has anyone installed the software they want you to install to order and check shipment? My computer stops it as "malware". Has anyone else used it?

Thank you for the info. It is very interesting. So morphine is turned into codeine which our bodies then turns back to morphine but not very strong.



Maybe we are in a different country? I know a couple of friends who take pain medication and its always oxycodone or vicodin, and everyone else I know takes Tramadol or Ultram (which I think are the same thing) or oxycodone. That's also what I've been given after dental and several surgeries in the last couple of years, although in the hospital I was given dilaudid. I have never heard of methadone used to treat pain, only for heroin use, like in the movie "Methadonia". They never mentioned using it in hospitals but since the movie is about heroin addicts that would make sense.

Thank you for the information, it is always good to learn something new. Thank you, Wolf

You dont need the software - dont install it.
Just dont be surprised with the very long ship times.
I used to use these guys and my record was 11 days shortest and 10 weeks longest.

The quality was always good - if you got your order.
When he says he shipped your product will vary by days from the postmark on the package. Once he 'ships' tracking is useless anyway so why bother.
JMHO.

Blade.

Use firefox if you can. They have a .org, .com and .net pages as I recall. Try them all until you find one that works.
Just my experience.

Blade.

Man I miss OS4U.

I haven't seen anything posted about anyone receiving from IM4U lately, if anyone does please post. Ordered about three weeks ago and just wondering if anyone else ordered anytime lately and rec'd.