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#743979 - 08/08/08 07:13 PM Mainstream media finally jump on Edwards' affair
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http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/tv/la-na-edwardsmedia9-2008aug09,0,7463269.story

"Probably the biggest question about this whole mess is why the mainstream media protected Edwards by ignoring the story for the past 8 months," read one typical comment on ABC News' website

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#744103 - 08/09/08 05:43 AM Re: Mainstream media finally jump on Edwards' affair [Re: OldandWorn]
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I see no story here. They could hardly pounce any more so than they did so long as he continued to deny, deny, deny. And the mistress was being payed handsomely to keep shut of it.

Once EDWARDS chose his timing to say, "ok it's true," then the media could have their feast.

Was never really anything upon which to "pounce" until then.

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#744117 - 08/09/08 06:52 AM Re: Mainstream media finally jump on Edwards' affair [Re: stits]
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 Originally Posted By: stits
I see no story here. They could hardly pounce any more so than they did so long as he continued to deny, deny, deny. And the mistress was being payed handsomely to keep shut of it.

Once EDWARDS chose his timing to say, "ok it's true," then the media could have their feast.

Was never really anything upon which to "pounce" until then.

Stits


Easy. The hypocrisy of a man that was out there fighting for "the little guy", when he was using his little guy with one of his contractors. Why is he visiting her, in a hote, at 2;30 in the morning. The dude lost all sense.

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#744335 - 08/09/08 02:56 PM Re: Mainstream media finally jump on Edwards' affair [Re: OldandWorn]
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Easy. The hypocrisy of a man that was out there fighting for "the little guy", when he was using his little guy with one of his contractors. Why is he visiting her, in a hote, at 2;30 in the morning. The dude lost all sense.


I think that he actually explained it best himself. It was arrogance and a narcissistic attitude that caused him to lose all sense. I'm not sure I see hypocrisy though. Unless Edwards has ever campaigned on a platform of marital fidelity, I don't think that fighting for the little guy and having an affair are mutually exclusive. I'm pretty sure that there are plenty of "little guys," hard working men, who have endulged in extra-marital relations.


I am just hoping that with all that is going on in the world right now, we are not going to be subjected to 24/7 coverage of this. The guy is not a candidate for anything now. He obviously will not be a VP choice. So where is the story? If it turns out that somehow there was money paid to people AND that money comes from the public coffers, then yes, follow that up. Otherwise, I want to hear about McCain's energy platform and Obama's foreign policy. In depth. It is almost embarrassing to me how stories like this stay in the news for weeks, months, years, while stories about things that actually impact the world are considered too dry, too dull, too complicated to be covered in depth.

On a very personal level, it might shock some to know that sometimes when a wife becomes extremely ill, she might not only give her husband permission to have sex with someone else, she might even encourage it. The younger the man, the more likely this is to be true. I think that a woman who does this is showing some real self esteem issues and a man who would agree to it shows a weakness in character. Still, I know that it does happen.

In a support group I used to go to one of the speakers said that the incidence of men leaving their ill wives Vs women leaving their ill husbands was three times over. I have a lot of anecdotal evidence to support that, but no studies to back it up. Maybe I will try to find some.

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#744417 - 08/09/08 06:50 PM Re: Mainstream media finally jump on Edwards' affair [Re: MrsDoodle]
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Again, the story is more about the media, or lack of it until he opened his mouth. here is an interesting take on it: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/09/opinion/09collins.html?_r=1&hp&oref=login

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#744461 - 08/09/08 08:25 PM Re: Mainstream media finally jump on Edwards' affair [Re: OldandWorn]
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That story is about the hypocrisy of John Edwards the man himself, not about the media.

As Doodle says, "Where is the story?"

This is relatively long in the past, now (likely why he chose this time to come out).

But really, Old/Worn, there were nothing but rumour and gossip for the media to focus on until Edwards himself said it was so.

Anyway, that's my take on it. \:\)

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#744476 - 08/09/08 08:59 PM Re: Mainstream media finally jump on Edwards' affair [Re: stits]
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 Originally Posted By: stits
That story is about the hypocrisy of John Edwards the man himself, not about the media.

As Doodle says, "Where is the story?"

This is relatively long in the past, now (likely why he chose this time to come out).

But really, Old/Worn, there were nothing but rumour and gossip for the media to focus on until Edwards himself said it was so.

Anyway, that's my take on it. \:\)

Stits


Here is the associated Press take on it:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i8SLNf8LpsY4ORnr3h-COztdbhhgD92F33OO0

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#744825 - 08/10/08 03:45 PM Re: Mainstream media finally jump on Edwards' affair [Re: OldandWorn]
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Who cares at all about politicians, left or right, having affairs? I mean really, give me a smart and competent guy who has affairs over some dimwitted straight arrow? Look where that's gotten us the last eight years.

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#744828 - 08/10/08 03:49 PM Re: Mainstream media finally jump on Edwards' affair [Re: jond]
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 Originally Posted By: jond
Who cares at all about politicians, left or right, having affairs? I mean really, give me a smart and competent guy who has affairs over some dimwitted straight arrow? Look where that's gotten us the last eight years.


Good point. But the point, for me, is the media and how they handled it.

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#745459 - 08/11/08 08:27 PM Re: Mainstream media finally jump on Edwards' affair [Re: OldandWorn]
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There was scarce fodder for the media
"handle." As for link after link you're just going to have to provide some excerpts, as it is too time-consuming and tedious to read what you're reading in it. Make sense?

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Edwards' wife was known in Washington not just as a political force in her own right but one of her husband's best asses.

Ok now that's just vulgar.

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#745788 - 08/12/08 02:37 PM Re: Mainstream media finally jump on Edwards' affair [Re: stits]
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 Originally Posted By: stits
There was scarce fodder for the media
"handle." As for link after link you're just going to have to provide some excerpts, as it is too time-consuming and tedious to read what you're reading in it. Make sense?

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Edwards' wife was known in Washington not just as a political force in her own right but one of her husband's best asses.

Ok now that's just vulgar.



Hey buddy boy. When did vulgar upset you!!??

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#745800 - 08/12/08 02:59 PM Re: Mainstream media finally jump on Edwards' affair [Re: MrsDoodle]
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 Originally Posted By: MrsDoodle
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Easy. The hypocrisy of a man that was out there fighting for "the little guy", when he was using his little guy with one of his contractors. Why is he visiting her, in a hote, at 2;30 in the morning. The dude lost all sense.


I think that he actually explained it best himself. It was arrogance and a narcissistic attitude that caused him to lose all sense. I'm not sure I see hypocrisy though. Unless Edwards has ever campaigned on a platform of marital fidelity, I don't think that fighting for the little guy and having an affair are mutually exclusive. I'm pretty sure that there are plenty of "little guys," hard working men, who have endulged in extra-marital relations.


I am just hoping that with all that is going on in the world right now, we are not going to be subjected to 24/7 coverage of this. The guy is not a candidate for anything now. He obviously will not be a VP choice. So where is the story? If it turns out that somehow there was money paid to people AND that money comes from the public coffers, then yes, follow that up. Otherwise, I want to hear about McCain's energy platform and Obama's foreign policy. In depth. It is almost embarrassing to me how stories like this stay in the news for weeks, months, years, while stories about things that actually impact the world are considered too dry, too dull, too complicated to be covered in depth.

On a very personal level, it might shock some to know that sometimes when a wife becomes extremely ill, she might not only give her husband permission to have sex with someone else, she might even encourage it. The younger the man, the more likely this is to be true. I think that a woman who does this is showing some real self esteem issues and a man who would agree to it shows a weakness in character. Still, I know that it does happen.

In a support group I used to go to one of the speakers said that the incidence of men leaving their ill wives Vs women leaving their ill husbands was three times over. I have a lot of anecdotal evidence to support that, but no studies to back it up. Maybe I will try to find some.



excellent post as always MD.
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#746530 - 08/13/08 08:25 PM Re: Mainstream media finally jump on Edwards' affair [Re: MrsDoodle]
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 Originally Posted By: MrsDoodle
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Easy. The hypocrisy of a man that was out there fighting for "the little guy", when he was using his little guy with one of his contractors. Why is he visiting her, in a hote, at 2;30 in the morning. The dude lost all sense.


<snip>


I am just hoping that with all that is going on in the world right now, we are not going to be subjected to 24/7 coverage of this. The guy is not a candidate for anything now. He obviously will not be a VP choice. So where is the story? If it turns out that somehow there was money paid to people AND that money comes from the public coffers, then yes, follow that up. Otherwise, I want to hear about McCain's energy platform and Obama's foreign policy. In depth. It is almost embarrassing to me how stories like this stay in the news for weeks, months, years, while stories about things that actually impact the world are considered too dry, too dull, too complicated to be covered in depth.

<snip>



Amen. I want to hear, in some depth, the candidates platforms. For example, how is Obama going pay for everything he is promising?
Just one one many questions I have for the candidates.

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#746538 - 08/13/08 08:34 PM Re: Mainstream media finally jump on Edwards' affair [Re: CairoKid]
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 Originally Posted By: CairoKid
 Originally Posted By: MrsDoodle
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Easy. The hypocrisy of a man that was out there fighting for "the little guy", when he was using his little guy with one of his contractors. Why is he visiting her, in a hote, at 2;30 in the morning. The dude lost all sense.


<snip>


I am just hoping that with all that is going on in the world right now, we are not going to be subjected to 24/7 coverage of this. The guy is not a candidate for anything now. He obviously will not be a VP choice. So where is the story? If it turns out that somehow there was money paid to people AND that money comes from the public coffers, then yes, follow that up. Otherwise, I want to hear about McCain's energy platform and Obama's foreign policy. In depth. It is almost embarrassing to me how stories like this stay in the news for weeks, months, years, while stories about things that actually impact the world are considered too dry, too dull, too complicated to be covered in depth.

<snip>



Amen. I want to hear, in some depth, the candidates platforms. For example, how is Obama going pay for everything he is promising?
Just one one many questions I have for the candidates.

Best to all,
C/K


Good point Kid. The only point that Clinton's peeps made, that make sense, was this: Before Iowa, if this was known, Hillary may have gotten Edwards votes and would have smashed Obama. With that, it may have been over for Obama.

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#746642 - 08/14/08 02:18 AM Re: Mainstream media finally jump on Edwards' affair [Re: OldandWorn]
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Re. Edwards:

As Edwards knows, our paternity laws were written by Gloria Steinem, so if the mother doesn't want a paternity test, it can't happen. So when Woodruff asked if he was going to actually take the paternity test soon, Edwards quickly noted, "I'm only one side of the test."

With Rielle in on the scam, Edwards could boldly demand a paternity test and then self-righteously defend his mistress's decision to refuse a paternity test. How dare you gainsay this woman's right to her privacy! Because if there's one person who's gone the extra mile to keep Hunter from becoming a public figure, it's John Edwards.

Edwards aggressively offered to take a paternity test (on 'Nightline'), knowing that the New Age hippie chick who still thinks she's going to marry him would not hurt him by allowing a paternity test. Edwards certainly is adept at reading stupid women, or as his campaign called them, "the base."

;-)

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Edited by CairoKid (08/14/08 02:22 AM)
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#746756 - 08/14/08 08:21 AM Re: Mainstream media finally jump on Edwards' affair [Re: CairoKid]
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" Amen. I want to hear, in some depth, the candidates platforms. For example, how is Obama going pay for everything he is promising?
Just one one many questions I have for the candidates.

Best to all,
C/K"

We would have to ask McCain the same question, BTW. He has big, apparently unfunded programs/tax cuts that he hasn't explained how he would pay for (cutting "pork" in earmarks will not even touch his projected expenditures.)
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#746804 - 08/14/08 09:50 AM Re: Mainstream media finally jump on Edwards' affair [Re: tigersmom]
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 Originally Posted By: tigersmom
" Amen. I want to hear, in some depth, the candidates platforms. For example, how is Obama going pay for everything he is promising?
Just one one many questions I have for the candidates.

Best to all,
C/K"

We would have to ask McCain the same question, BTW. He has big, apparently unfunded programs/tax cuts that he hasn't explained how he would pay for (cutting "pork" in earmarks will not even touch his projected expenditures.)


The reason for tax cuts is to stimulate the economy, create more jobs and that leads to more tax revenue coming in..

We are going into a down cycle (recession). Part of the natural ups and downs of the economy. Raising taxes, as promised by Obama can make that worse (make it longer). JMHO and those of many economists. Even Democrat congressmen will hesitate to raise taxes during a recession.

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#746805 - 08/14/08 09:52 AM Re: Mainstream media finally jump on Edwards' affair [Re: CairoKid]
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 Originally Posted By: CairoKid
Re. Edwards:

As Edwards knows, our paternity laws were written by Gloria Steinem, so if the mother doesn't want a paternity test, it can't happen. So when Woodruff asked if he was going to actually take the paternity test soon, Edwards quickly noted, "I'm only one side of the test."

With Rielle in on the scam, Edwards could boldly demand a paternity test and then self-righteously defend his mistress's decision to refuse a paternity test. How dare you gainsay this woman's right to her privacy! Because if there's one person who's gone the extra mile to keep Hunter from becoming a public figure, it's John Edwards.

Edwards aggressively offered to take a paternity test (on 'Nightline'), knowing that the New Age hippie chick who still thinks she's going to marry him would not hurt him by allowing a paternity test. Edwards certainly is adept at reading stupid women, or as his campaign called them, "the base."

;-)

C/K





Well done Kid. Yea, Hunter figures it is only a matter of time for her and John to get together.. sick but very plausible.

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#747749 - 08/15/08 06:00 PM Re: Mainstream media finally jump on Edwards' affair [Re: tigersmom]
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 Originally Posted By: tigersmom
" Amen. I want to hear, in some depth, the candidates platforms. For example, how is Obama going pay for everything he is promising?
Just one one many questions I have for the candidates.

Best to all,
C/K"

We would have to ask McCain the same question, BTW. He has big, apparently unfunded programs/tax cuts that he hasn't explained how he would pay for (cutting "pork" in earmarks will not even touch his projected expenditures.)


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Again, Tigersmom, I'm with you. I want to hear both candidates explain their plans in a more in-depth way. One problem is the media, they don't seem interested at getting down to the meat of the issues.

C/K
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#747755 - 08/15/08 06:12 PM Re: Mainstream media finally jump on Edwards' affair [Re: CairoKid]
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 Originally Posted By: CairoKid
 Originally Posted By: tigersmom
" Amen. I want to hear, in some depth, the candidates platforms. For example, how is Obama going pay for everything he is promising?
Just one one many questions I have for the candidates.

Best to all,
C/K"

We would have to ask McCain the same question, BTW. He has big, apparently unfunded programs/tax cuts that he hasn't explained how he would pay for (cutting "pork" in earmarks will not even touch his projected expenditures.)


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Again, Tigersmom, I'm with you. I want to hear both candidates explain their plans in a more in-depth way. One problem is the media, they don't seem interested at getting down to the meat of the issues.

C/K


This is how economics work. If in a recession, you lower taxes and raise tax revenues. Even in good times, you can bolster economic activity by letting people keep their money to spend as they please. One thing that comes from spending (by people) is more jobs.

The government is not a direct job creator. obama is not going to create one job himself if elected.

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#917952 - 08/13/09 10:57 PM Re: Mainstream media finally jump on Edwards' affair [Re: OldandWorn]
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Originally Posted By: CairoKid
Originally Posted By: tigersmom
" Amen. I want to hear, in some depth, the candidates platforms. For example, how is Obama going pay for everything he is promising?
Just one one many questions I have for the candidates.

Best to all,
C/K"

We would have to ask McCain the same question, BTW. He has big, apparently unfunded programs/tax cuts that he hasn't explained how he would pay for (cutting "pork" in earmarks will not even touch his projected expenditures.)


---------------------

Again, Tigersmom, I'm with you. I want to hear both candidates explain their plans in a more in-depth way. One problem is the media, they don't seem interested at getting down to the meat of the issues.

C/K


This is how economics work. If in a recession, you lower taxes and raise tax revenues. Even in good times, you can bolster economic activity by letting people keep their money to spend as they please. One thing that comes from spending (by people) is more jobs.

The government is not a direct job creator. obama is not going to create one job himself if elected.


I guess someone was right about the jobs TM and the "paying" comment was prophetic.

Good old John Edwards is back in the news! The haircut is back!

http://www.wral.com/news/local/politics/story/5791651/

Going to admit paternity. They make a cute couple. rofl5 I guess she was gonna press paternity. John has a very big house. Hunter and the kid can move right in. A little pojygamy in NC. He makes Sanford look good.


Edited by OldandWorn (08/13/09 11:03 PM)
Edit Reason: This is too funny

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