i wouldnt say that just yet...people have just placed orders as recently as a week or 2 ago, wait to see if theese people receive before u make any decisions. ofcaurse there have been a few unfortunates in the crowd but its always gonna be like that no matter what iop u go to without a reship policy

I heve decided to join i guess, was it dell?, that decided to go chemical free. This is just sick, sorry for the pun, but I go to the VA and blieve it, they would rather be shot than provide any relief. Don't know if it's some sort of policy or just dr's being afraid about their reputations or license or whatever but I'll just have to live with it. MRI's prolapsed disc, pinched S1, protrusions, extrusions, and migrated, whatever. Panic attacks, sorry to hear it, keep moving.

Better to live with that than deal with this junk and send us dollars to people that would much rather cut your $%$ head off than look at you. So they settle for ripping you off.

I'm done , you guys can have it. I never was big into it but have seen enough that this is no way to live and defintely don't want to fund whatever it is they do in their real lives.

Hope it all works out for you guys.

Run, don't walk from this place. Reading feedback on their own site (the ones they havent deleted yet) & is getting ugly. LL today, bunk meds feedback & comments of missing & late orders. Add that to all of the missing orders posted in this thread & the math is easy, scam. Dell, kashmoo, coldfusion,Cheryllyn, myself & others all missing orders. 28 days since leaving country here & nothing.
The shills have, for the most part, pretty much stopped posting here. I enjoy reading their posts & see which company they are pumping now.
This place sounded so good, should have known & stayed with dependable. Totally my fault allowing myself to be ripped off when the thread clearly states "expect to be scammed".
What were we thinking?

Yeah, it hasnt been a month yet for me but im cutting my losses. They will most likely ship your first order timely and most people receive 1-2 weeks after it leaves the country. After that...well good luck on that.

It just sucks because I'm out of xanax right now, my doc is refilling my prescription tomorrow but its only for 30 .5mg. He refuses to give me a higher dose. This script may last me two weeks so I need to start looking for another source now.

Go on he's still taking orders I hear. Good deals too.

hmm
she has not posted in 4 days

and no one else has anyting goo to say about this place

i knew it was too good tobe sure

I have a question? I have been reading on this post and noticing no one is getting their orders....why does it have a 4 star rating? I would think it would at least have a 2....just curious?

GL to all of you that have orders out. I know nothing about this place, thought about it once but went with my gut and decided against it. I hope everything turns out right for you guys.



RB

needs to be blacklisted....

well to bad i sent my money in to him about 15 days before your first post. every post i think except one (around page3or4) was positive. So what was I to think

You can help lowering the rating yourself and everyone else who want them blacklisted should do the same. I just gave this thread a 1 star rating and now its down to 3 Stars total. If enough people do this it will go down to 1 star quickly.

BTW, if you do not know how to rate a thread then this information is for you:

1) Go to the top of the page and look just above the first post.
2) There are three buttons: New Reply --- Topic Options --- Rate This Topic
3) Click the Rate This Topic button and a drop down should appear.
4) Click in the white circle next to the single star then hit the button below that that says "Rate it".

If 5 or so more people do this I would think this site would soon be down to 1 or 2 Stars unless the shills all start rating it as 5 Stars to counter your efforts.

Thanks Kryton; I learn something new on here everyday.
I just gave this thread a 1 star.

Thanks! And now it is down to 2 Stars, so maybe people will realize this place is a waste of time....just my opinion to those that have received. I see more not receiving than those that do.

Pretty easy when you know how, yeah? I would say a 2-3 more people do it and its down to 1 star. Its the same with most threads on this forum ... only 2-3 people actually bother to vote on a thread so the Stars are so easily manipulated. If lots more people actually used the system as it was meant to be used then you would get an accurate idea about a pharmacy. I encourage everyone to vote on every thread for every IOP they have used or have an opinion about. I try and do so myself and so should everyone else.

Who knew? Very good advice and i should have done the required reading to do that. excellent way to, at a glance, give the members an idea of what they are dealing with. i wish i had known before, no I wish that everyone had known before so about, lord knows how many, got beat up.

A selective scammer in my opinion, shipping a few to keep money coming in. I am past 30 days since ship & almost 40 days since payment picked up. I hate getting ripped off worse than an LL. Reminds me of CAM fiasco.

I've ordered twice from them with no problems.The last order took almost a month so things might be a little slow on delivery.

Check out the feedback section on the gates site & they are blaming one poster to boards for causing a rash of seizures & a ban on shipping to North & South Carolina as well as stating this member is the reason we are not going to receive orders from January & February. Is this an admission those orders are not coming? How would the gate know that orders are going to be seized?...............?
I have read feedbacks here & on their site & see nothing but feedbacks, opinions & experiences, no divulgence of any confidential information about shipping. The site does not inspire confidence & was surprised how angry they are at one person, look out. I wonder who it is?
They go on to state that we should contact this member & ask for our money back from this person. I have never read anything like it.Are they going to post the personal info to contact a poster? Hope not Someone who did not get their order got under their skin.

I do understand the risks, been taken for money before & surely will again, it's the way things are now constantly having to change vendors but I appreciate all who post, it helps us make an informed decision & hopefully saves some of us a bad experience & lost money.

Never ordered from here, but they did send me an email about how honest they were and how they believed in Karma and was not taking peoples money that LL was intercepting the packages and they read the boards and they say that the people that post here is what made things what they are today. Too much info given away and now people are complaining about not getting their things....I dunno. I am just going by what the email said and they did mention not shipping to the Carolina's no more.

Heck who knows....I never ordered from here but had thought about it a couple times.

I just thought that was rich, the part about "karma" coming from a drug dealer from south america running his wares through Miami, the infamous customs office of habeeb fame, i guess depending where in the us you live.
Karma, no offer to reship some part, half price, nothing.

I suspect his bank account is replete with usd karma.

But hey, if you don't try, you don't know. Good luck on that. Nothing more convincing than personal experience and given the rap sheet on his karma I am sure he will give it his best shot. It is also probably true at this point he is correct that he would be lucky to get a stick of double mint gum out of there due to commentary on his karma.

what is karma in urdu? Different language might be more compelling.


In all honesty, jokes aside, i recommend against gambeling our usd to that guy, but since that isn't going to influence you or anybody else, good luck and I hope your karma is better than his.

Flag this messageRe: QuestionSunday, March 8, 2009 7:51 AM
From: This sender is DomainKeys verified"The Gate to your Health The Gate to your Health" <thegatetoyourhealth@gmail.com>Add sender to ContactsTo: "" <xxxxxx@yahoo.com>

Hello we know what people are saying but we know we are not thiefs and we send every order out and is because of those people saying too much that packages are not arriving to the clients house but instead they are getting an LL letter which proves we send what they order. Since all these people have been saying too much the seiz rate increased in Jan and Febru and people are just getting the letters this month. Is too bad that some have to ruin it for others that always received with no problems . As you will see in our site we are stopping shipping to the carolinas at the moment. We have many clients that are still receiving but as you know you always take a chance when order outside the U S no matter what it is we have order books and music and never arrived to us it got lost in the mail . We are very clear we dont ship for free and this people knowing that still order from us and got packages deliver 2 times and because the 3rd time dindt received it talk way too much that it ruin the chances for the people that are now getting the LL lettersthanks for letting us know but we know we are honest people we believe and good karma and we will never keep peoples money under any circunstances. what goes around comes around 10 times stronger and why we would takes peoples money and not send products when we have the items to send and keep a very the business open for a long timewe understand by reading you are scared but we know we are not ripping anyone off and feel really bad that the comments of some people that knew the terms by reading the disclosures still get mad and end up talking too muchthanks for your understandig and good luckThe Gate to your Health

I am not a Shill and definitely am not telling anyone to buy from these crooks. This is the email I received. I had thought about ordering from them back in Jan. but went with my gut and didn't order.

This is the email they sent me word for word....only thing taken our is my name and email. I am nor falling for his BS and I hope no one else does either.

GL

If I actually received my order I would get down on my knees and pray. It seems like he's basically saying, welp this guy ruined it for all of you, and no orders from january and february are going to be received! haha! what a bunch of bs,no one person could ever be responsible for the seizure of EVERYONES package in a whole 2 months.

I will continue looking this week though, as it will pretty much near the one month mark. I have NEVER had a package seized. I've been ordering for three years, not continuous but a good 12 orders total, some from the shadiest of the shady sites and still received eventually.

I have no idea what is going on with this place.

I don't agree with the fact that he does no reship, because everybody knows when LL comes out the product gets sent right back to him, or supposed to I believe, so why not reship? If you know that person is being truthful then contact them get a new address from them and ship the stuff back out to them. Unless of course customs keeps the product. I was always under the influence that they shipped back to the origin. Even so, I think the right thing to do is to reship, but they do state on their site there are no reships, so can't really argue with that.

Are the LLs that are coming real? You know I have heard of places faking them, not saying they would, but you never know. I've never saw one, but there are some listed in one of these threads. Different ones from different places. You could always ask someone else, if they don't look right.

I do hate that so many people are being run over. I do hope no one else is ordering from this place right now. It is either hot or they are liars or both.

I am glad I didn't go with them. GL to all of you and I hope this guy does the right thing and sends out your orders.


Thanks

RB

Hey Red, sounds like you sre either lucky by not ordering or the smart one in the family. anyway from homey himself:
"Hello like we said it can take up to 4 weeks and with the weather
> >the USA is
> >having is probably delaying mail all over
> >also we dont reship for free we can give you a discount on your
> >next order"

Insert Ha! send more money1 I wish I were his agent. to continue:

"We do our job once you pay we order the products and
> >mail them
> >out."

So if they get the order back, if they receive a winning lottery ticket instead of a retuned order whatever, they is done with you. He meant it when he said he is at peace if you receive or not.

Insert: They it is, skraight up from the man himself. So you can think whatever you like about seizure letters real/fake sent back to him, seized in wherever. He takes your money and whatever happens, the end, nothing more from him. What kind of moron would actually send him more money on a non received order. I take s sap and beat you over the head then come back and tell you if you give me more money I will not hit you as hard the next time or maybe not hit you at all. It's just all too silly.

I'll say it again, I like sister heavenlee, but 16 for 16 on a new iop. she ordering twice a week, for months? insert Ha! That notwithstanding, which is too ridiculous to over look, but for arguements sake, say 16 for 16. Who on this planet ordering from south america with packages that look like they do could be that lucky. St. Peter ain't that lucky. She was on the take or getting something for her services. Doesn't change the fact she came across as a very genuine and nice person, but I guess Madoff(spelling) did too, and too that doesn't absolve our personal responsibility to think for yourself. I know she didn't influence my thought process one little bit. Don't blame any Shill. I am fully responsible for my own stupid action, and they are plenty, but I own them, not someone trying to improve their own lot in life.

new feedback on the site today, some guy's order shipped 3/4 and received today. 5 day delivery?! that must be great. I live near the same area of the US and havent received for 21 days now. hmm...

I must have bad "karma" as my 34th day past since order left country.I could have walked it here by now. Your friends at "thegate" have blamed you for seizures across the country for all Jan & Feb orders & want u to reimburse. (Sorry cold, had to get that in. The most ridiculous accusation ever). It is amazing they can look in the future & know we are not receiving our Jan/ Feb orders due to LL's we have never received, psychic as well.Heavenlee, you are priceless with the exact wording from their guestbook about someone divulging too much. Have read them all & have not seen anything soooo revealing all our packages are seized & have not seen posts of LL's just "gate" stating so.
Think they might not have shipped them (LOL)? If there is karma, I feel sorry for the gate.
Kashmoo & the rest, we r screwed.

finally decided to post my first post here. i have been on many forums like drug-forums and bluelight. i was always a big time seeker but not a poster until right now.

GOOD THING I DID NOT order from these guys. i was about to place a order for the gadors 3 weeks agos but after reading more and hearing more about story's that no ones receiving


..WILL STAY AWAY..

i am going to have to go with another site.

El, I wouldn't mess up your finances for anything in the world but all I ever said about his packing is that they have a billion multi colored stamps on them (and now that I think about it I mentioned they were way too large for the use they were put to). Now say that ain't true. I read one post awhile back stating I must not have ever received a package from SA, implying they all look like that. Well, leave us examine that(this is like picking low hanging fruit).
1. True, haven't received any packages from SA so by implication they all look like that, the billion multicolored stamp dealy, and way oversized, then nothing revealed here would have singled them out as they all look the same. What would I have to gain by notifying LE anything abot this gate. They gonna get mey money back from him? I don't think so!
2. Does anybody here think that LE hasn't already ordered from him? Can you say follow the money? Well let me improve your education (El this don't mean you) Homeland Security does follow the money and would probably have an interest in where the money that goes to him is being used for.
3. If that previous post was incorrect, they don't all look the same and they could be packed anyway he wants, then who the %^$% fault is their packaging, mine? I don't work for them as yux guyz might have surmised.
4. If I opine on their delivery, I definetely wouldn't be the first to do so about an IOP, much less on this board or even in the Expect to be scammed! category.

insert: this is just way too easy to take apart, but the fact people lost money, just like I did, really does bother me. I tried to prevent just that. Not help him rip people off.

5. If he knew customs was snagging his packages, why didn't he change them right then and there rather than letting all these people lose their money? He, as we all know, follows this thread so has instant feed back. If there was an option for packaging, why in heavens name did he ever release something that looked like his shipments?additionally, if that prior poster was correct it was/is not possible to change the packaging from SA. then every package looks the same therefore all IOP's got snaged, or better, every package period got opened from SA.

This is just too stupid.

6. Now, out of the blue after jan, feb he put his 190 IQ to work and changed the packaging? how long does it take for him to respond to his business needs?

We need him on wall street or working on the stimulus package!

7. Did I hire shills? did he hire shills? Purpose being? Plan was?

My fault? Did somebody send me some money I am unaware of? Did I ever offer you anything but the %$^&^& truth.
I can say anything the mods and admin allows. The rest is all him. He might consider another line of work. changing your packaging is part of the business if it hadn't ocurred to him. See, I am helping you and him for free, and it's all my fault.
I will say this, you are foolish if you send him 1 cent.

ps BIGCHILI, saw your post, good choice, since his demise is all little ole me's fault. Just too rich!

"We have many clients that are still receiving but as you know you always take a chance when order outside the U S" so it's my fault or not?

Well, I said earlier I would post as things progressed. Here is my timeline:

2-24-09: Placed large (imo) order, $200+ of 1 particular item.

2-25-09: WU money was picked up. They emailed me promptly, letting me know the status of my order and the lead time on getting my particular item shipped.

2-27-09: Order was shipped, according to them. Tracking number was included that just told me "some" package had entered the system.

2-29-09 I received an email from them telling me that my package had left the country. Tracking system showed the same.

Continuing..... There were a number of emails back and forth, all my emails were answered within 24 hours, usually just an hour though.

I kept reading this thread, and another thread about a new IOP i took the plunge on, and every day i was just giving up more and more on ever receiving my package.

3-11-09: PACKAGE CAME!!! Very happy man here indeed! Counted them, full 100 tabs present. Even the bonus tablets I was promised were there as well (sublingual meds and a generic sample). They are all in their original blister packs, no cracking or signs of rough handling. All still have plenty of time before they're even close to expiring. Packaging was very discrete, won't go into details, but the contents were secure and safe, and the outer wrapping gave no clues as to its contents.

I understand I dont have many posts under my belt, but as god as my witness I am not a Shill. I just want to submit my own personal story. All in all, the meds are quality, but a touch on the pricey side, imo. I'm nervous about ordering again, just because of all the horror stories i've read in this thread since I placed my order. My next order, if I do order, will probably be MUCH smaller, just in case he is selective about sending at all. I feel very lucky that an order this large and expensive came with no real problems to speak of.

Best of luck to everyone out there still waiting. Dont give up yet!!

YES he is saying anybody that ordered in the US it is their fault....that is what I got from it, not that he was saying it was coldfusion that did this...you know what I mean. (scapegoat) you know a way of getting out of any blame....I am talking about him BTW...LOL

I haven't saw any descriptions that would tell LL anything on here myself. So I think it is BS. I call it like I see it. Selective scammer!

He is saying that we as Americans knew the risk involved and his no reship policies and still did it anyway, that is how I read it, but luckily I backed out, but 3 other IOPs got me in the end, so really I just dodged this bullet and took it for a few others LOL...how ironic.

GL everybody, you still may get your stuff. I am not very familiar with this place that is why I emailed him first.