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Whois info, public info, on May 18, 2008:

Just to mention there is a hot thread about this OCS:
http://www.drugbuyers.com/freeboard/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=700596#Post700596

I want to stay out of the affray surrounding this "site" since I personally have no need of their services.

However, since this is the most likely place their rep might answer a question, I must ask for the benefit of those tempted to try ImLivingAgain:

What is the necessity of requiring money wired through WU before services are rendered?

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Yes, we accept that some International sites require payment that way, though there is a high risk of being scammed that way unless the site has a proven track record.

"Email Sources" often ask for payment that way, though again, there is a great risk of simply "donating" money using that method, let alone the legalities involved.

Some of the NROPs operating on the down-low ask for payment that way, but you're similarly taking your chances on many fronts by wiring funds to strangers and you're out of the "gray area" and into illegal territory that way too.

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Seems to me if an OCS offering a full-fledged consult with a licensed Doctor and promises medication delivered via Fedex wants patients to take the leap, they'd be more forthcoming about the need for wiring funds in advance -- that "need" being something only hinted at so far...

A great many readers here realize that wiring funds offers virtually no opportunity to recoup that money in the event of an "unpleasant experience".

OTOH, there are folks looking for pain relief who don't realize this is this is generally a disappointing experiences going that route....

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Something ain't right, IMO

Proceed with caution!

patient2all

You Know PTA,

I believe it's more of the "lack of" operating capitol over a scam that drives that procedure.

Some clients have posted good experiences with them and like you, I don't require their services.
But from a business overview, it seems as they may need the capitol up front in order to pay the doctor, pharmacy and shipping.

Their Credit Rating rather than " a skeem" is probably the issue.

I would enjoy your thoughts from this point of view.

MBS

I have to say I agree with you as that is what I thought when she told me to wire money upfront. She stated that she had been working for another OCS that the owner walked away with all the monies owed out. No one got paid dr, pharms, workers, etc. So now she said that that is why they are doing it the way they are. I asked her about taking a credit card and she said they weren't set up for that yet and also that alot of people would cancel payment on credit cards to them. I think COD is the best way don't you agree?

I have read all these posts of yours obvious of what you are doing and have tried to do to the posters that use this company. What a shame. Even I can read between the lines.
Why are the administrators banning those two users for what reason? Maybe someone else decided to take the matter of banning them personally and did it to them hackers do exist) . Is the admin checking into this?

Well I cannot answer that! You will have to ask Admin.

hoppa

hackers do exist?? That makes me laugh.

here we go again with the first name and initial...

Can someone share with us the costs involved (as this service is a bit different from other ROPs) and their medication count.

Thank you!

The actual site name if you want to see it or get their contact info to call and find out their process:

http://www.wwwlivingagaincom.health.officelive.com

Admin is banning and deleting users because something strange is going on... like you and karenp posting from the same PC...
That is why we ban the two of you...

I just went to this site to see if I may have been missing something, I was trying to find the FAQ's, terms of agreement, etc...but the site is not coming up for me, wonder if it's just me or I am typing the site name in wrong. All I am getting is a page that says this page cannot be displayed, is it just me or can anyone else get this site up.

I've been getting the same results as you, the site is down.

No doubt the jig is up and they threw in the towel once they realized no one from DB is butting...

Humm ...Gone like the Wind!....Woosh....Gone....Poof!!!...I wonder ....Will it come back up?

I thought maybe it was either my high speed modem/connection, at least I know its not my connection.

Huh... the domain still exists, but isn't nameserved to any IP address by their provider (Microsoft Office Live) anymore.

It looks to have been taken down deliberately, but no way to tell why or by whom.



That's my guess, too.

WOW, so Oxy do you think that this place just had shills like karenp, kevine, georgej, among others post on DB to get the members of DB to wire $200. to them and then just split with the money? If so shame on them.

PTA,rubix, I, hoppa and a few others had a lot running about this group but it was put in the removed list. I believed this was a put up job from the start.Hoppa's post said to be careful. For me the give away was only new posters with a first name and letter who said it was a great place. I Luv ya hoppa, PTA and Ruggie for once again keeping us smarter and richer. To all newbies: pay attention when the oldtimers post. Lots of wisdom.

It's Brandy. I have not gone anywhere - someone crashed my website, which was totally beyond my control. It will take me a few days to get a professional and secure website up and going, so that this won't happen again, but in the meantime, I am scheduling consults without delay. As always, you can reach me at xxx or by phone at xxx. There is no "scam" and I haven't run off with anyone's money and I'm certainly not hiding.

I would like to get a consult, but only if it can be COD like most sites. This is the time to prove us wrong.

Please Brandy, I see that you are reading this and want you to respond. I f you can not please simply state why. This is the best method. COD will attract so many customers and if you are legit like you claim than this should be fairly simple. Please do reply!!!!!!!

FWIW, this place certainly did arouse suspicion. It was essentially a "source without a web", a line becoming blurred of late as Microsoft and Googlepages has begun to offer free web space.

These Internet giants are offering potentially more professional looking free web space, lacking the popup ads that give away the Tripod, Angelfire, GeoCities and a million others like the .tk domains that gave away the "traditional" free web page.

I went through much of the process of signing up for an officelive.com page, the type ILA was using.

The signup is just as anonymous as any other free web page, giving you no recourse in tracking down the "owners" in the event of a scam.

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That was always the inherent danger of sending money/credit card info/whatever through free web sites. At least if a site has a domain and a hosting provider, they paid with something that should link back to their identity if they are planning on perpetrating a massive scam. I say "should" because the World Wild Web is full of exploits and even a registered, paid for site could lead to forever lost funds.

Given the World Wide nature of the Web, who you gonna call if you're ripped off by some questionable site, the Latvian Police Department?

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Actually, I said little about this ILA site. The other members mentioned raised enough red flags to convince ILA this may not be the venue to launch their questionable "business" venture.

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While $200.00 is a lot of money for most folks, frankly most medication scams that prey on those in need are pikers and bottom feeders compared the many other dangers.

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A little OT, but can Admin forgive me?

Just to name a couple we may not be aware of:

I've spent a lot of time, to no avail, attempting to keep people from falling for the 'work at home' scams that spam continuously. It's truly tragic that in these tough times, many, many people are taken for 5-10K "investments" that prove to be utterly useless.

There are good, legitimate work at home opportunities that could benefit some of our members who can't hold outside jobs. I'm one of them, in fact. I've posted on it before. I'll try to dig up those resources when I have a chance and post them in the appropriate forum. Try searching my posts for the last few years, here and on the VIP side for " missy " -- I believe I mentioned her name. She was a mentor to me early on who helped me learn what to avoid, asking nothing in return. Sadly Missy suffered an unimaginable tragedy a few years back. Pray for my friend Missy please....

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As evil as the 'work at home' scams are, the cruel activities that regularly occur on Online Dating services are arguably worse.

A fellow corresponds with a dozen lonely women, telling each how he feels they are his "soul mates". He's lost his home and job and would love to make a "fresh start" and relocate to your area to share a lifetime together.

If only he could settle up a few debts where he is and if you would be kind enough to send him money for airfare too. I recently learned of an acquaintance who waited 12 desperate hours at the airport after fronting one of these cads a large sum of money so they could be together. Needless to say, she never heard from the bum again.

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So, despite how it has revolutionized our lives, the Internet is a dangerous, unregulated place in general.

Beware of most everything that comes your way wanting money. Even the major banking institutions have their own schemes that regularly lure in the unwary.

End of OT....

patient2all

Rather than ask members to provide up-front funding for your "start-up" business, why not do as I did? I took a chance and used a credit card for my initial operating expenses and it paid off. If you're confident enough that this endeavor will be a success, you should be be prepared to take a similar risk.

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Can patients try this similar offer for help with pain issues without fronting your business's operating capital?

www.imlivingagain.blogspot.com



patient2all

You were hiding for a few days that your supposedly customers were taking [censored] from alot of people, where were you then??? I think a few even seen you online at that time??????

You have been here reading and all your so called lucky people has since been Banned and you still did not speak. That looks like hiding!... Pick-a-boo...
Some were even posting from the same Computer!
You still did not come forward. Makes us think!

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someone crashed my website

No, I don't believe that at all! You just can't have that type of site up with a Microsoft free web page.
In all the Sites I have ever seen for an OCS, none looked as unsecured But hey who knows I've been wrong before. Do you realize how many people may have checked your site? Have you spoken to the folks at Microsoft?



Now your talking branyd. That is the first Safe step you can take. Go for it. And please stop asking for payment by WU only. Maybe if you have a real, more professional site that allows folks to have some type of recourse for their payment. (In case they get nothing in return.)

Sorry to keep saying it over and over but it's going to take more than "Brandy is so nice" for the board to trust this. Why does everyone that posts for you, now Banned say how nice you are? Sounds like the same person in every post. Here and VIP. Takes more than being soo nice to get my Medical Records!



Well talk to this board and answer the Questions asked of you. I really can't imagine you have gotten all that much money as of yet. But who knows.

Again if I'm wrong I will say so. But so far your not giving us much, just a handful of Shills!

Say Hello to karenp for me.

All have a great week-end!
hoppa

I just basically wanted to see her explanation on why she could not accept COD. I have an OCS that is great. She did not reply as I knew she wouldn't

Specifically to Wendy and Grand Pooh-bah, why are you being so negative when you haven't used my service or shown true evidence of anyone who has been "taken" by my service? I really though this forum was to help others that need relief and who are unable to get the proper care from their local doctors? I am a real person with feelings and so are my customers who have come on this site and posted their positive experience with my company only to receive a negative reaction from those few who continue to look for something negative even though the is no evidence anywhere on this site from those who've used my service.

I don't come on this website every day. I post occasionally because I am busy running my business and spending time my family. I will respond to people who genuinely have questions and are looking for help because I want to help others, whether you use my service or another site - my goal is getting you the help you need. But what I'm not going to do, is spend my time reply to people whose only goal is consistently being negative with no evidence of any wrongdoing on my part. If you are really trying to protect others from having their money taken by me, why don't you actually find someone who has lost money; have them come on the site and prove it, and then you might actually appear to be a credible source instead of someone with other motives?

After considering what has been posted regarding the COD option, I have decided to start accepting COD payment. I will have to set up a PO Box (I'm not going to give my home address for payment). For those customers who choose the COD option, please realize that it will delay the process by one day because I will need to receive your payment before I can schedule you with the doctor. I have to set it up this way because the doctor has to be paid for every consult regardless of whether the person decides to accept the package or not. I can't run the risk of having someone go through the entire process only to decide that they don't want to accept their medication when it is delivered, and I still have to pay for the consult!

For others that want a quicker consult - the Western Union option is still available and no one has lost any money with this option. I will contact you throughout the process to ensure you are satisfied with the consultation process and so that I can ensure that you have a good experience with the pharmacy.

Since it appears that someone has possibly crashed my site, please call me at xxx we require a working Web xxx until I get the site up again on a secure server. You are welcome to contact me today and I will answer any questions you may have about the process.

Thanks and have a great day.

Brandy
(843) 270-3606

Anyone who uses WU will certainly loose money as WU is not free.

I don't understand what you are posting, you say you will begin to accept COD yet you claim you need the money upfront to pay your Doctor. Which is it, COD or not?

I also have not seen a single person posting about anything successful in regards to your site. The only people that seem to be supporters of your site have been banned as being the same person, maybe even they were you seemingly.

Can you see things from my perspective?

Your hosting provider's DNS servers (ns1.officelive.com/ns2.officelive.com) are no longer returning answers for "imlivingagain.com" or "www.imlivingagain.com" - you can tell them that when you call them.

It seems so highly unlikely that somebody was able to remove your domain's records from your account with Microsoft's hosting service without your approval. Hosting companies, especially huge ones, have security policies in place which are intended to prevent things like that from happening.

I guess anything is possible, it just seems like another strange event in a series of strange events.

Oxy, I guess if you view a "fee" as losing money, than maybe you do. As with money orders, there is a fee to purchase one and also almost every OCS company charges at least a $20 or more fee to use that option on top of the fee for the actual money order itself. So of course, Western Union is going to charge a fee to use there service. How else would they make money?

I do apologize; I phrased my recent policy change incorrectly. Instead of COD - where you provide a money order to the driver to receive your medication package, I am offering to accept a money order before you have your consult. Money orders are traceable, and I thought it would be a comfortable option to some people who do not prefer Western Union. To reiterate, if you choose the money order option, I will need to receive the money order first before the consult is scheduled so that I can ensure that the doctor will be paid. I do it to protect the patients as much as I do the doctor, because I won't be able to keep a reputable doctor for long, if he doesn't get paid for each and every consult just because a few people don't accept packages that they ordered through their consult. I want the patients who trust me and my company to always have the help they need without interruption. I've done my homework, so to speak, and found a great doctor and great pharmacy that share my commitment to provide a great service to our patients.

I don't know what to tell you about people who have been banned that have said positive things about my site. I can tell you that no one has come on drug buyers, I'm aware of, that has reported a bad experience and to me and my customers, that means a lot. You might want to ask yourself why would certain people who have said nice things about my company be banned? There has been some talk about people using the same computer and using first name and initial for their screen name, but is that wrong to do that - I don't know?? To me, if someone had a legitimately bad experience, that would weigh more in my mine that talk and/or assumption about how a person decides how many times to post or create a screen name? There was one lady in particular, who had posted a couple of times about her good experience with my company and shortly after that, every post of hers disappeared. I didn't see a mention of her being banned; just every one of her former posts over the past several years including her screen name (it was something totally different from her name) disappeared.

I would love to stay and keep posting but I have patients to help and my family to enjoy today. Again, if you have a specific question and genuinely need help, please call me at xxx we require a working Web for all vendors xxx.

Oxy, you asked that I see things from your perspective; I sincerly hope that you feel I have. Please try to do the same with me and those others who have posted about my site. How would you feel in their shoes? Regards.

Yes COD is collected when the meds are at your house, I think having to send any money no matter how it gets to you FIRST before anything else is done in your process is a BIG red flag, I read in someones post that some that start up a business would get a credit card or something to pay thier docs or who-ever until money starts rolling in, I dont know too many who would send money first, except the shills that are now banned.
Also do you service people in Kentucky???


(We posted at the same time) Also would like to add, we have seen NO negatinve feedback except a few saying they are not getting any response from you by phone or PM or e-mail, because no one is sending money first to a "shady" (IMO) place, I see NO feedback from anyone known to these boards even somewhat that have posted positive feedback....??????

Brandy: we require all vendors to have a working Web site to be discussed... we are suspending your posting priviledges till your site is back online.

I have already answered the question about the banned and deleted users that were so happy with your service...

Contact me via http://www.drugbuyers.com/help once your site is online again.

Ok then, this defeates the whole purpose. Why not do COD once the order is shipped like the other OCS. This just goes to show that you have tried to open a business and have no funds to get it going. I bet I would send you the COD and never get a call. What a bunch of disorganization. Good luck and to everyone here... stay far away because all you are doing is paying someones bills with your hard earned money. If you need a reliable site, just ask me and I will give you one that is COD and is shipping in 24 hours without you wondering if you are getting scammed. Let's see how quick the site comes up.

Hey Brandy, I tried filling out your contact page on your site to get information on how to use your service and nobody ever got back to me.

Why is that?

OK Folks, I dont want to get blasted, I've been here quite a while but my nieghbor used this service on Friday, had his consult & was in touch with the pharmacy on Friday. I'll know more & post about it when the meds come. No, he doesnt have a computer & I'm not letting him post on mine.
Im with Chat & dont have anything to gain by this. Its an information board. I did give him the website last week. Not sure how he arranged everything.

Folks: It has been 5 days; This company does not exist. I am out $200.00. Shame on Brandy and shame on me.

Now some truth. I knew as soon as you sent $ you would get nothing. How did you here about them tmbg because I know that we have been warning everyone since day one the thread was started. Never ever send money first. There are so many others that are COD once your meds arrive.

To whom and when did you send the payment?
5 days is not too long if you count the weekend and Memorial day...

hey hoppa - not to answer for iris - but it says in the post that iris gave her neighbor the site addy

I don't know folks, still sounds fishy as all hell to me

MoneyGram: Excuse me while I suck some Carbon Monixide-See you in the next world ( I world in my heart of hearts I know doesn't exist). Thank You.

Iris - I'm confused because you were warning people about this site, but now you say you actually gave a neighbor the info???

on what date did you send it? and then when was your shipment promised to be delivered?

ps - no suckie carbon monoxide please

This is the scoop. He came over on Friday morning, asked me if I knew of a site he could consult with that day. I told this was risky but there is a site on a forum I read. It is RISKY but he decided to try & get a same day consult, which he did. Yes he moneygrammed the 200 bucks & had his consult about 3 hours later. He also said the Dr was very thorough. The pharmacy apparently called him this morning, I didnt get the name but he said they were sending COD, 2 day/DHL & he should get his meds on Thursday.I will post when I hear more.
He's a long time friend, chronic pain patient, no internet service at home anymore & he comes over to my house to fax stuff. I have let him browse on my computer but I use this for work also so I couldnt let him open a drugbuyer account.
Im really not full of BS. Yes the send money first thing is a little too much for me, but I guess its legit...........................for now........
I will post when I hear anything else.

Now I am really confused, karenp(banned now) and daschi(her SIL) said they received via Fex Ex, and someone on the VIP side said DHL and you say DHL.

LOL, which one do they ship with...DHL or Fed Ex?

He said DHL. We'll know more on Thursday. Thats when his meds are supposed to arrive. Promise to keep everyone updated.
He said overnight was 60 bucks.ouch.........so he went with 2-day.

OK,
The Pharmacy is REAL! That much I now know. My only Question right now is how can they service all states.

brandy needs to get her site back up and answer some questions.

#1: Is How can this Doctor and Pharm ship to all states other than CA?

Yes, I told all of the board to be careful and it's hard to understand how all this can work without any Info on the site that was up or from what was said.
There are still questions to be answered.

If I am going to point out all of what looks wrong, I am also going to follow up and say if something is right...
So there we go, there is a Pharmacy that is saying they Ship for ImLivingAgain.com...Just how can they ship to all states.

See brandy I will give it too you when it's right. I should not have to do the poking around,(you needed to answer your questions) but I don't want to be wrong either.

hoppa

Hoppa, how did you figure this out? Are they using an exclusive pharm? I would still be leary of sending money upfront as I dont have that kind of money to throw around unless it is a sure thing. I am also wondering how the are sending to all states except CA. If this is true, then this would be a godsend for the TN patients and many of the other no shipping states. I dont understand it, I didnt think that this was even legal in some states. I know there have been some in the past that have taken the risk, but maybe they have found some type of loop hole. Who knows...

From what I know pharmacy's cannot ship to certain states ...period end. It is against certain state laws to ship controlled meds into these certain states.

Example; AZ has a law that a pharmacy cannot ship into that state, as well KY, and MO, and a few other states.

Hmmm, so they are doing it illegally?? Or maybe they have somehow figured out how to do it. It is so weird that all the other OCS' are having such a hard time finding a pharm period to ship anywhere and then here comes this one and they have a pharm that will ship EVERY WHERE. Amazing eh?

You said it amazing, maybe the pharmacy doesn't even know about it or what they are doing.

What I don't get is why they can't ship to California, I mean that is an easy state to ship to.

Maybe, or maybe they do know about it and are willing to take the risk. If thats the case I wouldnt expect them to be around very long.

It is "ok" for pharmacies to send anywhere in the USA. How do you think the mail order pharms for people with health insurance get their 90 day supplies? Outfits like Caremark are but one example. The fact a local town pharm may be doing it is not particularly strange. They want to make a buck too.

When I spoke with this Brandy, she stated she was in the state of Maine. Just because the domain registration may say it's in California does not mean the person resides where the domain provider does business.

All of this discussion is way weird to me. The bottom line has anybody used it and to what success?

Yes any pharmacy with a VIPPS certification can ship anywhere or one your insurance uses, but a pharmacy shipping for an OCS where there is no face to face cannot ship to every state.

Hoppa

You are right. You should not be the one trying to answer these questions, doing the leg work, investigating. It's good that you are because in the long run it helps everyone out - but yes, it should be brandy on here. With that said, admin suspended her account until she gets her site back up. So - until that happens we wont be seeing her on board any time soon unfortunately.

keep up the good work hun

Who said she was living in California?

Yes ofcourse any pharm can ship anywhere, but we were talking about pharms that are shipping for OCS'. Totally different story from what I understand. I dont get why everyone has spoken to her, I have tried to get in contact with her with no success. I sent emails, and called. Anyway, I hope that those of you that say you are using them really are getting the relief you need.

My neighbor got his meds yesterday. I just thought I would post!!

I'm a bit confused, did the $200 cost cover Consultation, shipping and the medication?

Also, they have no working web so they would be considered an email source if I am not incorrect.

He pd 200 for the consult & pd extra for meds. I still would not recommend. Seems like they wont last too long.
JMO!!!
There are reliable OP's left & have been around for quite a while.

Iris, I'm a bit confused by your posts and I"m only asking for clarification purposes. Didn't you recommend this site to your neighbor, he received his meds as promised, but its not an ok site? Am I missing the reason, is the cost? Is it really expensive?

Yes very amazing that this pharmacy is willing to ship to every state except California. Especially considering that the pharmacy is a pharmacy that's home pharmacy is in Maryland and is a pharmacy that ships mail order for the federal government employees, you know the politicians, the ones that get that Cheney Health as we all call their health insurance.

One would think that a pharmacy that states that they have mail order contracts for the federal government employees (politicians) would know the laws and not even be shipping for an OCS, considering it's the federal governmentt that wants all OCS's done away with. Amazing!!

It's hard for me to believe that "this" pharmacy would even look at an OCS.
One never knows when money is involved, BUT..I would never harm an organization if they are actually helping people by posting public information about their business.

It's none of "my" business what OCS people use or what pharmacies an OCS uses. Sooner than later the information will leak out and it harm our chronic pain friends who really really need the help.

I believe my good friend posting above me here suffered from some of that (TMI) and now look. Her business is gone!

I remain hopeful for all who have given these guys ago.

MBS

$200 for a consult is the highest price I've seen. I'd expect the Dr. to make a housecall for that much...

In any event, this source has no web and should be sent to the appropriate forum at this time.

No need for me to say anything about your so called friend here or the business that is now gone. It is another OCS I am speaking of. Just saying Mr Blue Shoes. OK? Peace.

One thing to know here, this Pharmacy has/had no idea of what was going on or the Laws with all the states. They gave out Info without being asked and were very confused about how things are being run. They are known for keeping prices very low and shipping costs next to nothing with them. But some have posted 60$ for overnight. What?

I would not ever try to ruin it for folks to get meds, (why would I?) but something is very wrong!! I just don't want people to Toss away 200$..that would Stink. Big Time!

I am not posting all that the Pharmacy even said, not as of yet. But I do know they had questions for the Doctor. And please, before someone even says it, The Pharmacy already had a bad feeling about this, long before I asked my one question.

hoppa



They were banned, some were posting under same IP's.
I don't think many have sent 200 dollars off, with no hope of it getting them anything. At least hope of getting the money back if nothing comes.

Just my feeling on that.

Right! This seems like nothing more than an email source.
Or an email scam!
I am with you, dump it!

hoppa

Wait a minute here, I did not post TMI (to much info), I did not and would not post any pharmacy's names as I do not believe in posting the names on a public forum, if you notice the pharmacy's name is X'd out. I am not someone who would want to ruin anything for anybody. So I certainly hope you are not thinking that I am trying to harm a pharmacy at all.

But one thing that does bother me very much is that every member who stated they received from this place posted like a Shill. I also never said they were a Shill, I did post to that karenp that she needed to let this Brandy post instead of her because she made herself look like a Shill. In my opinion its the rep and/or owner that should be out here posting about their service and not a member, and lets face it karenp posted 100+ times answering everyone and to me that looks like Shill postings, she also stated in a post that she was posting for Brandy because Brandy asked her to. Well IMO Brandy should be posting on DB herself, explaining her OCS and the process, not just stating "we are doing things differently", but actually getting out here posting about the service, after all that is how she would gain customers and the trust of DB members. JMO.

iris, it is free to have a DB account and your neighbor should be posting for themselves. I do believe Admin told MaryB that her SIL should be posting herself as well before he banned her.

Iris said that her neighbor didnt have a PC to post. ANYWAY, I am getting the feeling that the pharm that this place is using must not know that they are doing anything wrong. Maybe no one told them that this Dr is prescribing meds without actually seeing the patient. I dont know, that is just what I am gathering here. If this isnt the case I have no idea why they are shipping to the no shipping states. Maybe I missed something here, did the govt suddenly decide "Ah to he11 with it, lets just forget about the whole war on pain patients, lets just let them get their meds for God's sake" ??? That'd be nice, but I highly doubt it, LOL.

Ruggie my friend...hold on now. I wasn't directing anything towards YOU...I was speking in general and in YOUR defense as to TMI.

Please reread it...I was speaking to the fact that TMI is what made your job so difficult to manage and in essence caused your loss. That's just my take on it.

If I could open an OCS and never ever let anyone know where my pharmacy was (even change the bottle's name) I would never have any issues. I believe this.

MBS

OK gotcha hun, thanks for clarifying that, whew I thought you were saying I posted TMI.

How was it determined that this (mail order) pharmacy serves politicians? I see where they state they have established relationships with federal government departments and now provide mail order services to them. I just don't see the relationship between this pharmacy and politicians.

I don't seem to understand why everyone is so convinced that there is something underhanded going on with the pharmacy? I spoke with them at length before making the decision to try this service and they explained why they can ship to no-ship states and it makes sense - the pharm and/or the doctor has applied for the necessary (I don't remember the correct word, here) permit or licensing to service these States. Its not that specific States do not allow pharmacy shipments, period. Its that the doctor and/or pharmacy has to have the proper licensing to do so. They did tell me that they are unable to ship to California since the doctor does not have the proper licensing (again, that might not be the right word). However, the good news is that this OCS is bringing 11 new doctors on board (and will have their website back up on Monday) so maybe at least one of them will have the ability to write scripts for people in this State. The pharmacy owner is good friends with the OCS owner and he knows very well what kind of business they are running. I won't get into too many details unless someone wants them, but I recently heard from the pharmacy that they are going to Washington to defend chronic pain patients to the govn't/DEA which I thought was really cool. It seems like most places are too scared of the DEA to say anything! I appreicate it because I feel like they are doing so on my behalf and probably will get more attention or better reception that just some average person like me.

Are you also good friends with Brandy as you seem to know more about this OCS than a regular customer would know

This is great floridafan. I am interested in the details if you don't mind.

I guess TN patients should be jumping for joy as no one else is servicing them.

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