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This place was wonderful. The doctor was a very sweet and compassionate young lady who brought her laptop in the room, went over my condition, wrote the prescriptions for what we discussed and agreed upon and then sent me on my merry way. Their office staff was wonderful. Their building was your typical doctor's office - very modern - very clean.

It gets better! After my visit I walk right next door to the pharmacy in the same building where the doctor's office is located and fill both of my prescriptions for 120 Norco 10/325 and 90 Xanax 1mg and it didn't even cost $60. This was their cash price too - I did not file through insurance. It was their normal CASH PRICE!!!

I couldn't be more pleased with this service. My one and only complaint is that I didn't drive down the night before and get a hotel room instead of getting up at 4am and driving down this morning. I was extremely exhausted by the time I got home this evening.

I told the doctor to be expecting TN patients to be visiting her. I highly recommend this method for any of you who live in TN and have been left high and dry, if it's feasible to drive to outside the Atlanta area. If so, for you then it's a win-win situation. This was hands down as simple and maybe even better than any OCS I've dealt with - and I've been around quite a while.

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3/2/08- After trying 2 different online pharmacies which started out freat only to end up with excuses and non-shipment of my hydrocodone 10/325. The only LEGAL way to obtain these types of meds is to have a face-to face consultation with a real doctor. They were great and so was the doctor. He spent more time with me than my regular doctor. There were 200 online pharacies last year and that number is now at about 20. Pain is severely untreated in this country and NNCIP is the solution to my problem. I am very pleased with them and I am not going anywhere!

they have changed their policy it appears. not very consistent and it is frustating.

i,m not sure of this not crossing state line policy , if in fact that is a policy, but i drove more than 100 miles to see the dr. that was in my state . whatever the policy is i believe nncip is trying to operate within all the laws to have a legitamate servoce for cp patients. my experience with them , so far , has been great.

53 chevy

Patient,

Thanks for finding the post. I knew it was on DB somewhere because I know it was not on their site. I think more and more people see the advantage of this company as a long term solution and with all the uncertainty with many of the OCS's, instead of temporarily jumping on board with another OCS and waiting for their state to become part of the program, they are willing to make the trip for as long as it takes until they have a doctor in their state. NNCIP must have been getting quite a few calls/emails about crossing the boarder and had to re-evaluate their Rules as not to raise any red flags. I agree with you patient that they are thinking long term and are willing to possibly give up some patients/$ now in order to make sure they are staying within the guidelines (whatever those are) set by the DEA.

However, I have noticed that there was someone in Texas that is way too far from Dallas and was told by NNCIP to wait for Austin to come on board but they said that although Austin is within their state, the doctor across the boarder was still much closer to them. Maybe that might be one of those "circumstances" that they have to "consider carefully".

I wouldn't see a big problem telling a pharmacist that you are seeking treatment from a "specialist" across the board if it's not too far, and that can most likely be avoided if they would call or fax in the script for you.

Anyway, sorry to ramble but I just started to type as I was thinking. I hope I made sense.

BBM

Folks -

Folks -

Just a comment, I no longer take pain meds, got tired of the hassles and too scared of the LE factor. They beat me down, so I'm taking Bupenorphine. Going okay however, the pain is back and constant.

On the traveling and distance issue, They just don't want to flood some of these Dr's. Like the posters comment above "expect to see a lot of patients from TN" to the doc...not a good thing to tell them.

There is nothing, absolutly nothing illegal or improper traveling even 3,000 miles to see a Dr. or pharmacy. Think serious illness (cancer, etc.) and the folks that go to Johns Hopkins, Mayo, Clevand Clinic, etc. Totally legal and above board. So, I'm just saying don't buy-in to the insurance, long distance treatment thing. NOT TRUE. they just don't want to flood their Drs. Understandable, lots of patients = DEA, State LE, eyes on you.

Sorry folks_

I had a couple of other comments. If you want to beat this thing (DEA and government attack) the only way is through legislation. That's why Ron Paul would have been good.

Anyway, everyone is right opiates are a wonderful almost miracle medication that does help with evrything from nausea, cough, flu symptoms, depression, and to pain of course. And, it is absoulutly safe to the body when taken right. Opiates have no effect on liver, kidneys, or any organ in the body. The acetimetaphine (tylenol) mix is the danger in Hydrocodone. Just remember, anything at or above 4,000 mgs of tylenol a day IS toxic to your liver. Lastly, and I don't mean to scare people but I kinda hope I do, it may save a life. If you are taking opiates and a benzo (valium, etc.) STOP! Again the opiates are safe when taken alone, but the opiate/benzo combo is very dangerous. If you take a proper clinical dose of both you could be fine, but the day you decide to take one extra benz it could be fatal, yes only one extra COULD BE FATAL. So, be careful with that mix, or just don't do it.

Sorry to preach, and I am on everyone's side. If we could come out from the shadows on this, we would get this type of info. But thanks to the government we have to hide and get it second hand. Good luck all.

The ABC's can't do a thing with this. Period.
The only way they can shut this down is if the dr themselves write too many scripts to the samr person. .And from the way they have this setup that almost is impossible. This is totally legal. And i have to tell you that from adding it all up it's way cheeper then using OCS's think about it. when i was getting my meds on here from a ROP I had to pay the consult $80-$120 give or take then the meds $80-$90 for 10/325's then that stupid COD Charg that everyone of the rops liked to makeup their own convient price some were charging 25-35 for that. any say i was paying $15,00 for that $89,00 for meds then $27,00 for shipping Then refills
$80,00 counsult
$89,00 Meds $89,00 Meds
$27,00 Shipping $27.00 Shipping
$15,00 Cod $15,00 COD
$211.00 Total $131,00Total
On avreage i was paying $150-$170.-- Per month.
This is a Onetime fee of $299.00 then $109,00 Amonth for the service then your meds and we can use our Rx Insurence
My Meds will endup Costing A grand Total for a 120 Count of Hydro10/325 99cents $110.00 per month not bad and no waiting around for ups go figure.
I think i'm gonna like this place.
JMHO

i don't know why the breakdown cameout like that can everyone see what i was doing??? sorry

Pardon this 'pre-review':

I know it's hard to say this to people who lived on a fixed budget but:

Even if the price should work out to a little more than you may pay for today's hot OCS, the extra cost is well worth it.

nncip is not an OCS. nncip promises to be the future that Chronic Pain patients deserve. The Doctors working with nncip are not strictly treating Chronic Pain patients. They have practices that treat every manner of ailment too.

This is the way medical care in the US should work, especially with an ever aging, ever ailing older population that is growing exponentially!

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A Doctor contracted to take on some nncip patients is not in some small room with a table and plastic chair and no other medical trappings.

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No one will ask "What do you want and how many".

Dump the 'pill mill' concept we read so much disparaging info about.

Dump the OCS mentality - "I've been waiting on a refill for 5 weeks and now they don't answer emails anymore". "Now the website is gone!", etc. That ain't working anymore!

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I didn't follow your math or even try, Mowwow, because I can't concentrate or think anymore.

However for the Chronic Pain patient, isn't your dignity worth a few extra bucks that you otherwise would have thrown at this week's "OCS of the month"? Imagine being able to be proud of where you're getting your pain treatment!

I hope I'm right on all this, but so far all indicators look promising. I've gotten nothing but good vibes and frank, honest answers to all the 'tough' questions that I've posed - on the board, through PM's and on the phone.

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While I wait to be able to avail myself of nncip's services, I'll be seeing an orthopedic surgeon and I'm all but certain that this effort will yield no lasting pain relief, yet will set me back several hundred dollars.

This will make doctor #6 (at least) and I suffer still.

JMHO,

patient2all

has anybody been with them long enough to have submitted for a refill. my first one was submitted yesterday and i seem to be having trouble with their website as far as logging in to patient area . and am wondering how the refill process worked for anybody who has done it . so far these people seem to be doing things the right way , i hope the refill process is as goood as the intial consult. i will of course give them the benefit of having enough time to get it done. i was just looking to see if anybody else has gone truogh it and what their experience was . tia

The website has glitches. I have to close my browser and reload the page to login and that does not always work.

when i had my first consult i could not say enough good about this company and their business model. i still have high hopes that this is the way of the future for " tellemedicine" if thats what you would call their mode of practice.

i was up for my first refill this month and was informed by c.s. at nncip that their dr. was no longer in their network ( texas), so no refills would be coming my way . in all fairness they did offer to refund my money for the consult . that in itself says a lot for their fairness and ethicalness of their bussiness practice.

their " temporary solution " is to try and find another dr. in my state that will sighnup with them. and i truly hope they can. but that being said it does no imediate good to me , a working guy who has to go out on a construction site everyday and work hard to try and make ends meet.

i hope this doesn't happen to others in other states who are depending on nncip to continue to recieve meds,. so they can go on with their lifes. it just seems that when i find a place that works for me they go bump and are gone. damn* shame if you ask me.

53Chevy,

I'm sorry that happened to you. In the back of my mind I was wondering about that as I never did ask anyone at NNCIP what they would do for us if the doctor decided they did not want to continue with them. I was hoping that they had each doctor sign some kind of a contract like maybe stating that if they decided to leave their "network" then they must finish all refills prior to ending their relationship. However, it appears that this is not the case.

I'm happy to hear that they did offer to give you a refund of your consult money paid, but as you stated that's nice but does nothing to help your pain.

I'm sure that it is hard enough finding doctors and they probably did not want to push their luck by asking them to sign any type of contract or maybe they didn't think of it and they will see this and say "Hey, that's a great idea!"

Anyway, good luck to you, I hope they find a doctor in your area soon.

BBM

thanx, i think nncip is honest enough , it's just the state of this kind of business that we can't count on anything untill it's in our hands , and that's a shame , cause how does a legit pain person plan anything in advance as far as work or play. we don't get the luxurie of knowing from one month to the next if we're going to be taken care of or not .

53chevy, sorry about your experience. You feel good for about a month and then.....

I wonder why NNCIP did not post it here for all to see?
Also, I wonder if other doctors have dropped out.

i can only assume they didi not post it here because they are trying to get another dr. for this state. i give them the benefit of the doubt on that one because they have been honest and forthcoming so far to date . it would have been nice to know of this situation a little before refill time thuogh.

Per my earlier email LE can and will do something about this. But bottom line even if they couldn't the Drs. think they can. Proof is the first problem about this servive posted here. The loss of the TX Dr. One of the quickest ways for the Dr. to get the DEA's attention is to have tons of sched 2 and 3 scripts. Folks, these will be filled in traditional regular pharmacies, not the old ROP's on this board sitting in the middle of "little Cuba" in Miami. These traditional Pharmacies will turn Drs. in. They know who the big pain clinics in their area are. Suddenly they see "Dr. Juarez" with 200-300 patients.....Red Flag. Their not the police but they don't want the DEA on them for not reporting. Many are large corprations with strict guidlines developed to stay out of the feds radar.

So, point bieng Dr signs up with this company. Starts seeing the number coming through his office (that he/she may not have expected or was shammed into not suspecting) and suddenly he/she ain't sleeping at night for fear of the Knock at the door. Poof he's a legite Dr. again satisfied with sprains and flu patients! So, don't kid yourself, google "wichita KS Pain Dr if you don't believe me"

I was under the impression that the Dr. left due to such a low number of patients? Please correct me if I'am wrong here.

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These guys are the best. Hands down.

My experience started Friday afternoon around 3 pm, when I registered and sent in my records. I had a few questions about the forms, and Kelly answered all of my emails, roughly at the speed of sound. She advised that I call for an appointment rather than waiting for someone to call me, so I did. Jamie answered the phone and said, "I was just looking at your records, and everything seems to be in order." Then she told me that the doctor in my state would be out of town for a week starting Sunday. I was disappointed because I really wanted to try to get an appointment on Monday, even though I knew it was short notice. My disappointment lasted about half a second, because Jamie said, "...but I can get you in tomorrow, if you want." A SATURDAY. I was elated. Long story short, within 22 hours of registering on the NNCIP site, I had meds in hand. The doctor spoke to me at length about my condition, alternative complimentary treatments, and gave me a full physical exam. I was there for about an hour- which is about 58 minutes longer than my primary doc spends with me when I have an appointment. It was an extremely positive experience, and I can't say enough about it. If you have a legitimate chronic pain condition and records to back it up, you absolutely can't go wrong. I highly recommend. This is definitely the way of the future.

On another note, the doctor in my state is an MD who specializes in acupuncture and biofeedback. She spoke to me about it, and the effect it could have on my pain (but stressed that I was in no way obligated to use her services). She was very informative and interesting, and I really think I'm going to try it. What could be better- a doctor who is understanding about CPers' need for pharmaceutical treatment who is also willing to combine that treatment with some holistic and natural treatments. Again- HIGHLY recommended.

These are all of the details that I'm willing to post publicly, but go ahead and PM me if you want to know anything else about my experience.

One more thing: I would suggest that you bring a copy of your records to your appointment. I had sent all of my records, and Jamie said that it was not necessary to bring a copy. I did, just in case, and it was good that I did. For some reason, my file was missing about three pages of records, and they were important ones- MRI reports, etc. Apparently they just didn't get uploaded correctly.

At the same time, I think that the doctor would have prescribed for me anyway- but I'm glad I had the extra records to back up my complaint.

I forgot to mention this, also- Saturday morning, the doctor called to confirm my appointment herself, offered me directions to the location, and gave me her personal cell phone number. A few hours after my appointment, I had an email from her, going over the alternative remedies that we had discussed, and giving me a link to a source for homeopathic pain/inflammation/muscle spasm remedies, if I was interested. This homeopathic supply website only sells to people with a doctor's recommendation, so if I was interested and wanted to purchase any of their products, I would only have to give them her name and phone number.

Again, GREAT experience. I can't say enough about the doctor's compassion, friendliness and thoroughness, and the NNCIP customer service people's great personal rapport and willingness to help & answer questions. If you are a chronic pain sufferer and have a doctor anywhere near you, this is truly the answer.

5 star service.
Appointment- 1'oclock today....

Dr. Absolutely the best. Personable, funny smart and very talkative. This doctor talked to me about all kinds of topics ranging from his friends and the diets that they have tried, Depression, stress, and most importantly the affects of pain on a person's life.

I was able to tell him how I had gained so much weight after my injury, and how I needed relief so that I could get my life back on track. I neeeeevvvvvveeeerrrrrrrrrr talk to
anyone about my weight issues not even my mother nor my husband, but I opened up to this doctor in a way that was shocking and relieving. We talked about Nutrition programs, different diets, and different pain relieving techniques.

No judgment No shame. Just compassion and understanding. Straight eye contact. No BSing just the truth about what I felt I needed to live my life free from pain. I had been prescribed 7.5/750, and he actually said lets switch to something that has a higher pain relief and less tylenol. "Well OK", fine by me...lol.

Anyway guys this was the VA doctor and I have a tracking # already and I just saw him this afternoon.

NNCIP

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received today 24hrs after seeing Dr.

Habib301, I am surprised that the doctor did not just hand you the script right then after you saw him. That is how the doctor in IL did it. In fact, for the refills the doctor just faxes or calls the script directly into the local pharmacy of your choice.

I know the site states that you will be overnighted the script but that is not how they did it. Saves not only time but also $$ for the cost of the overnight delivery.

When you put in for your refil you might want to give them the name of your local pharmacy and phone and fax as I assume they will do that for you as well.

Glad you had a good experience!

BBM