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#639407 - 01/28/08 02:00 PM
Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments
 
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GRAND Pooh-Bah
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Please use this thread to discuss the various OCS's that deliver scripts... this is for services that will deliver the paper script to the patient... or call it into the pharmacy for patient pickup... Who offers direct scripts? How does it work? Are they legal? Are they legal in some places and not legal in others? What are the risks? What are the advantages? Yes you can post the names of the doctors if you wish. You can also post the names of the sites you think are operated by the same people and that share the same doctor... Why? 1. Because direct script services are priced from $100 to almost $300 and some offer refills and others do not. Why pay more to consult with the same doctor? Why would anyone go to abcexpensiveDS.com and pay double to consult with the same doctors you can consult with xyzcheapDS.com? No reason at all! The reps with the expensive DS do not like the doctor info posted... 2. We are here to share info and to help each other find the best way to buy meds online legally... and not to cover up for any OCS or doctors. Important: Please do not tell other members how to post or what not to post. We already have Rules and moderators... Thank you for your support The following are just a few of the discussion already taken place: Ohio - direct scripts?http://www.drugbuyers.com/freeboard/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/635769/#Post635769Just lost my DS Refills and ned help...http://www.drugbuyers.com/freeboard/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/638210/#Post638210Best DS program today? http://www.drugbuyers.com/freeboard/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/635468/#Post635468TN direct script infohttp://www.drugbuyers.com/freeboard/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/627144/#Post627144TX direct scriptshttp://www.drugbuyers.com/freeboard/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/635830/#Post635830With DS, Can You Lose Your Refills?http://www.drugbuyers.com/freeboard/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/637953/#Post637953What is going on with some expensive direct scriopt services?http://www.drugbuyers.com/freeboard/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/640034/#Post640034The following was found and posted by patient2all and it is very important The DEA has been hip to "direct scripts" for some time. Here is an excerpt from the National Association of Boards of Pharmacy November-December 2007 Newsletter For its part, DEA aims to keep the boards and other stakeholders abreast of criminal practices as it becomes aware of them. For instance, DEA notes a recent trend in the illegal sale of controlled substance medications over the Internet that often skirts traditional means of detection. Some illicit Internet operations now offer “Direct Script” programs, in which illegal prescriptions for controlled substances are either faxed to the customer’s local pharmacy or sent directly to the customer to present at a local pharmacy. The Web site’s consultation fee is typically higher, but customers in this scenario can now use insurance to pay for the medications. (For more on DEA’s activities, see “FDA, DEA Speakers Cite Collaboration with NABP, Boards of Pharmacy as Key to Protection of Public Health” on page 175 of this Newsletter.) Controlled substance medications most frequently sought after by illegal means include hydrocodone combination products, benzodiazepines, and phentermine, DEA states in the notice. DEA urges pharmacies to be vigilant for indications that a controlled substance prescription may have been obtained illegally. The agency advises pharmacy personnel to verify the authenticity of controlled substance prescriptions received via fax or in person bearing the address of a practitioner in another state, written by a practitioner unfamiliar to the pharmacist, or presented by a patient unfamiliar to the pharmacist. If a prescription is suspected of originating from an illegal Internet operation, DEA requests that the pharmacist contact the DEA office in their local area; contact information is available on the DEA Web site at http://www.DEAdiversion.usdoj.gov. Alternatively, pharmacists can report suspicious Internet activities directly via the DEA Web site or by calling the DEA drug abuse hot line toll-free at Just remember that direct script services started to show up last year when many pharmacies were busted and forced to close, when OCS's had no pharmacies and could not find any pharmacies to fill their scripts. So they came up with the idea of sending the script to patients so patients have to worry about that part... And this come to us from Dr. A. Garcia as posted by DicertConsults: http://www.drugbuyers.com/freeboard/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/695405/#Post695405 We received and I am very concerned about the many incorrect statements regarding the legality of Direct Scripts as well as the fact that I am sending out medication. This is totally untrue. According to Florida Law, it is completely legal to write scripts for patients whose medical records I have reviewed if they meet certain guidelines. I would like to post the Florida Prescribing Guidelines attached so that all of these false statements will stop. It really makes me angry to see these postings by people who were denied because of incomplete medical records stating that we are doing things that we are not doing. I do not send medications to anyone because I am not a pharmacy. If I owned a pharmacy and had licenses in every state, then it would be legal for me to do so but this is not the case. I would greatly appreciate it if you could post these. And also could you please help me in re-registering for the free boards. The system appears to think that I am already registered but I am only registered as a VIP member. Furthermore, for all of you that like to gossip about doctors being investigated. The DEA, FDA and all other regulatory agencies MUST Notify a physician that they are being investigated otherwise their actions are deemed illegal. Yes they do often investigate physicians without advising them but none of the results of their investigation can be used. According to my attorney, regulatory agencies do this Pre-investigation to see who should be investigated. In response to the person who posted that you don't remember who prescribes for you. Perhaps you are taking too much medication or you are doctor hopping so much that you cannot keep track of your doctors. No wonder you are worried. Furthermore the DEA like any other regulatory agency has the right to investigate any dr. with a DEA license. This is their job. Your federal taxes go to pay their salary. You should be happy that they are doing their job in protecting the public safety. Thanks Angel M. Garcia, M.D.
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#648656 - 02/12/08 05:38 PM
Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments
[Re: waitin]
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Registered: 03/09/07
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I was trying to research the DS route, prices at my ROP are really getting up there. But, it seems that not many are posting about their experiance. Kina leads me to believe there is not many participating. I have enquired to a few posters regarding a few sites and posted in some of the threads...In this case I think it is important to research the Dr. and credentials prior to providing your pharmacy your script. I see that Chat is having a special. Looks like I am staying with my current ROP (PPC) or trying Chat for the price break...GOing to research them a little more now. Don't care who a regular ROP is using as the Dr, as I don't have to be there handing in the script. Looks like the new face to face has come to my state and I will probably go that route soon. I have a nerve study being done and a new MRI. I am going to finish those tests, get the results and then try the face to face. Thanks to those that did respond in these DS threads over the last few days. It truly is difficult to think about severing a relationship with a current provider when you know you will get your meds....Even though you may not be able to afford them...LOL GOod Luck to everyone, it is getting tougher in this OCS world everyday. I just wish the prices were not sooo high, then I would not have to be wasting time shopping for a new prodvider. Thanks again guys!! (and gals!)
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#651477 - 02/16/08 11:13 PM
Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments
[Re: Ruggie]
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Banned. User posts usually lead to members loosing monies...
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Registered: 10/26/07
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I saw a post and cannot reply to it (on the PMC thread), but it was about when controlled Rx' expire, which pertain to how long a person has to get the Rx filled for scheduled III and a schedule IV controlled med;
yes they expire 6 months from the original date they were written, however, with the Rx for a controlled substance you only have 30 days to get it filled from the date on the Rx. Schedule II's are different, usually they give you 7 days to get to the pharmacy for filling.
The 6 months means that if you do not put in for your refill until after 6 months on a schedule III or a schedule IV controlled medication, then the refills will become null and void.
Some states may vary in this so it is always best to check your Board of Pharmacy website out or just call a local pharmacy in your state and they can tel you how they handle these things. I am only stating what I know to be how it works in NY as an example.
I posted this here, because it was on another OCS that now does direct scripts and so I could not reply to that. Great point Ruggie, thanks for the great info as always =)
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#667048 - 03/12/08 07:58 PM
Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments
[Re: geodesy]
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ConsultsDirect.net
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Registered: 09/05/07
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Bryan, Thank you for all the information you posted on this thread. We would also like to thank the 195+ posters who took the time and effort to post great things about us. Debbie Customer Service For Consults Direct http://www.Consultsdirect.netconsultsdirect@verizon.net Fax: 1-727-369-6449
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Too many ordering but not picking up packages. we were losing too much money
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#670162 - 03/18/08 09:16 PM
Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments
[Re: watcher12]
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Registered: 04/16/07
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Alaska became a no ship state for ProPatient after I had waited over a month for my refill. I have been using that OCS (they were Buydirect) for 1 1/2 yrs since loosing my husband and insurance and had no problems. I have been on pain management over 10 yrs. They offered to send a scrip for me to take in to fill locally and I said, sure. (Not knowing). Then I found this area with all these posts about direct scrips and I read negative, negative, think I should not do that. What about when I have a dental issue that requires local doctor prescription or ER visit because of kidney stones, cracked my knee cap, etc and a rx is written for that? Is that what you are all talking about? Not being able to fill an RX because of using OCS pain management. Wouldn't they think it odd...Alaska....small communities...mom & pop pharmacy. How odd would that be to take in a scipt from out of state to a pharmacy in a community where everyone knows everyone. What about on-line pharmacy, not for prescribing but for filling the Rx I now have on paper? Any information you have to offer on that? Reading all these posts makes me feel like people are scared to death to take care of their pain issue because they will labeled seeking and won't get the help they need. What ever happened to the "Patients Bill of Rights" that we used when I worked for Hospice??? Out the door for those of us who are in pain but not going to die in 6 months. Do you have any suggestions on how to fill this RX or suggestion on a new OCS that ships the meds. I think I will eat the $81 dollars I had to pay for them to send my refill on paper because it sounds like filling an out of state Rx is a big NO, NO, .....
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#692618 - 05/02/08 03:49 PM
Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments
[Re: bdit]
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This is just my opinion, for what it's worth. I would go to a pharmacy that you have dealt with in the past, but perhaps not one that you currently use for other medications (i.e. blood pressure meds, heart meds, etc.). As far as using insurance, I certainly would if they will pay. I don't think it matters that you don't have a doctor's bill to go with it. After all, it is possible that you opted to pay cash for the visit, or the doctor did not take your insurance, for example. It really is none of their business. Personally, I have used CVS and have had no issues, but I can't speak for others. From what I head the main thing to avoid is drugstore.com, because they seem to be very vigilant in noting so-called "internet doctors", perhaps because they are a mail-order pharmacy. Other people have suggested Wal-Mart, and while I personally avoid them because I disagree with their corporate philosophy, if it is a place you have used before, it is worth considering. Again, these are just my opinions. Admittedly, since I do not have drug coverage, on the insurance question, I am not an authority on the matter.
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#692625 - 05/02/08 04:04 PM
Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments
[Re: bdit]
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Registered: 04/24/07
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For those of you have used direct scripts, do you think it is best to go to your regular pharmacy, one you rarely ever go to, or one you have never been to?
What about using insurance? If I use my insurance, I don't have to pay anything. However, I'm not sure I want this showing up on my insurance since I won't have a doctor bill to go with it.
Also, I notice the poster above me said he used Wal Mart with no problems. Are there any chains that work well for others or any I should avoid?
I would appreciate feedback from anyone with experience. Thank you. I am currently using Consults Direct. I receive a very small amount of Vicodin per month from my regular PCP. I get my PCP RX, alomg with all my others at Walgreens. Since I don't want to raise any red flags, I have my DS filled at Wal Mart and I do NOT use my insurance. My DS is for 90 10/500 and it costs about $41.00 per month without insurance. I had never been to this Wal Mart before my DS. If there is anything else I can answer for you about my DS experience, please feel free to PM me.
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#698331 - 05/14/08 01:12 PM
Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments
[Re: MNLady]
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Registered: 02/07/05
Posts: 65
Loc: South
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the way I see it, as long as your records meet the prescriber's standards AND the Dr. is legit (up to date on all their requirements by state/fed law), then I as a patient would not worry, and for some circumstances a mom & pop pharm might be the best way to go (I know everybody in there and they know me). that gives me comfort, and as long as the direct script doesn't look like a 14 year old's attempt at creating fake scripts, then I know I didnt commit a crime at all. I am now being forced to go this route as I just recieved a letter from my PCP, who has been great, stating he is retiring. I had my last appointment with him 8 days ago, and he gave me Xanax XR 2mg once a day and this is by far the most effective med I have ever taken for my anxiety/panic disorders......so after all that my question is can I get that med prescribed thru a DS service since they are just writing a script, or is there a list of meds they offer ROP style? thanks in advance for any info!! love this place 
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#778673 - 10/04/08 04:35 PM
Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments
[Re: Administrator]
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Banned. Shill that should post as a rep and stop shilling for own sites
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#821343 - 12/27/08 03:19 PM
Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments
[Re: curlymop]
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GRAND Pooh-Bah
Registered: 05/16/02
Posts: 3498
Loc: NY/NJ
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they have been saying that are out of 7.5/500 for the last week. Has anyone heard of shortages of this medication? Yes, up North at least. My face-to-face Doctor has prescribed that for the last 3 months. The first time the pharmacist told me there was a "problem with the prescription". She said she couldn't tell me what "the problem" was. When I pressed for an answer, the pharmacist finally said that there was no such thing as 7.5/500 hydrocodone. After I provided proof that it existed, she acknowledged there was such a thing, but they would have to order it. The pharmacist I've had the bad luck to deal with also believes that 7.5/500 hydrocodone is Schedule 4  Originally, I was prescribed 90 10/500 hydrocodone. A different pharmacist at the chain was leery of filling what she referred to as a "large amount of narcotics" when calling "headquarters" for advice and suggested that she could "substitute" a "Schedule 4 prescription like 5/500"  I check their name tags and these are indeed pharmacists and not pharmacy techs. The disparity of knowledge depending on the pharmacist you encounter is disturbing. ------ Between the 2 branches of this major chain pharmacy that are in my county, they have never been able to fill the entire prescription of 90 at once. I've needed to make up to 3 trips to 2 different branches over a number of days in order to get the entire prescription. It is an annoyance. ------- The Doctor told me that I should Notify the pharmacy a few days before he issues a prescription so that they can get the order process going, but I can't see the pharmacy taking "instructions" from the patient like that. I'd feel like a fool doing that and fear I'd be told I don't have the authority to tell them what to order a week before the prescription is issued. In a just world, the pharmacy should realize the need to stock a sufficient amount of the 7.5/500 hydrocodone since at least one customer has required it monthly of late. However, I later learned that even major chain pharmacies are bound by quotas as far as what percentage of controlled medications they can have on hand. ------ I'm in a major metropolitan area also, but since the Doctor has been mailing the prescription in to that pharmacy chain, I feel kind of stuck with them. We patients are in the sorry position where we fear that specifying another pharmacy chain midstream would make us appear "suspicious". I don't know if other major chains in the area would be more likely to stock it either. Even when we do things "right", we walk on eggshells fearing we may be be accused of doing something "wrong" if we "make waves". After all, we should be grateful that we are getting any treatment in this sad environment that has been created around us. ------ A wise pharmacist was more forthcoming and stated once that a complicated formula is now in place for how much of any controlled substance can be on-hand based on volume and ratios of controlled prescriptions vs. non-controlled prescriptions filled. The pharmacies may be allocating their limited quotas for the more often prescribed formulations. -------- So you are not alone.... patient2all
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#917994 - 08/14/09 01:57 AM
Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments
[Re: Bluefairy]
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#965433 - 11/18/09 10:21 PM
Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments
[Re: Reggie7]
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