false analogy. a more accurate analogy would be if the police caught the bank robbers and then let them go on there way each of the 10 times, just like customs sees my packages from medsmex and lets them go through to me.

wheres the actual federal law that applies to a noncontroled substance?

Thank you, Trampy. I was hoping you would reply.
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No problem. I answered the two questions and there's nothing more to be said. If anyone doesn't understand it, there's nothing i can do.

Trampy

tone,
Give it up. Your logic will not cut it with your local LE.
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We're all going to jail; that's all there is to it. But maybe we can have adjoining suites.

perhapes you didnt read this thread, but something is not best kept off the board if its MORE POWERFUL AND SUPERIOR to hydrocodone for some people, but didnt do anything for you.

Tone is correct. .

I'm not sure what book you have, but there is absolutely no siezure risk associated with hydrocodone or any other opiate/oid. There are siezure risks associated with the metabolite of Meperidine( Demerol ) , another synthetic, and closely related side-effects associated with the metabolite of propoxyphene ( Darvocet / Darvon ) Seizures, heart arrythmias (spelled incorrectly?)

"binding to ĩ-opioid receptors and inhibition of reuptake of norepinephrine and serotonin"

Monoamine. . what did you say?

I need to taper off hydro and am planning to substitue Tramadol for hydro because the withdrawal symptoms are so intense for me, I need to go from one pain med to the other.

I don't know of anything that potentiates Tramadol - it's a weird drug.

I use Tramadol for break-through pain, don't know if that's a good idea or not and I definitely use it when I'm taking a hydro holiday. I just got 100 50 mg. tabs here for only $56.50, great deal. Came in the factory sealed bottle and everything, totally smooth and easy transaction. No, don't work for them - I got a tip from one of my Fibromite buddies

Can anyone identify this pill for me? I ordered Tramadol 50 mg, and I received these small, white, narrow oval- shaped pills, with 377 imprinted on one side. I have seen the "Lilly", the "cor127" but not "377". Don't want to take one until I identify it.

Thanks for your help.

Bikefanatic,

377 is 50 mg Tramadol made by Caraco. It is a legitimate generic.

I apologize did I post against guidelines or something? Im new to this. I do not know where to post such a question as above. Many thanks for any help!

Sorry for the confusion.

No, you didn't post against guidelines or anything like that. I posted out of sequence.

I answered bikefanatic's question re 377 even though it was a few posts above yours.

I meant nothing by it - I just wanted to identify that particular Tramadol.

I guess I should have replied to your post instead of bikefanatic's post since you both mentioned not seeing 377 before.

Kandi, I totally agree with you. Tramadol doesn't work well for my pain, either. It was a strange thing at first when the doctor prescribed it. It gave me an intense headache (which I hear is fairly common), but the headache went away after 2 uses (I had no hydrocodone left and needed something to quell the pain). I have used it on and off for about a year now (mostly off), but I feel very shaky and irritable when I use it, and it produces almost no pain diminishing qualities FOR ME.

Just because it works for one, doesn't mean it's superior - that's just our individual body chemistry and what works for one may not work the same for another. I will not take it anymore - I only took it because I did hear it took getting used to, so I tried to ensure I gave it a chance, and it only produces very negative effects, so you and I are of the same opinion.

Corrie

If you want a pain pill that will work get a class htree or a class 2 the rest ajust something your doctor wants to give you to make you think your gettibg something " GOOD ".
There jusk,they wouldnt even kill the pain from a stubbed toe.They are not even a class 234or5 drug if that tells you anything,Thumbs up to you for not taking it anymore!

Since a lot of folks are asking if Tramadol may become scheduled...I found this article on the topic.

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A postmarketing surveillance program to monitor Ultram (Tramadol hydrochloride) abuse in the United States
by
Cicero TJ, Adams EH, Geller A, Inciardi JA,
Munoz A, Schnoll SH, Senay EC, Woody GE
Washington University School of Medicine,
St. Louis,
MO 63110-1093, USA.
cicerot@msnotes.wustl.edu
drug Alcohol Depend 1999 Nov 1; 57(1):7-22

ABSTRACT

Tramadol HCl, marketed as Ultram in the USA, was introduced as a non-scheduled drug in April 1995 based on the assumption that the risk of abuse was sufficiently low to warrant a non-scheduled status. However, approval was contingent upon the development of an innovative proactive surveillance program, to be overseen by an independent steering committee, which would detect unexpectedly high levels of abuse. The postmarketing surveillance program consisted of systematic collection and scientific evaluation of reports of suspected abuse in high-risk populations surveyed through an extensive key informant network of drug abuse specialists and all spontaneous reports of abuse received through the FDA MedWatch system. Methods to estimate the number of patients prescribed Tramadol were also developed. Monthly rates of abuse were calculated as an index of the risk-benefit ratio (i.e., abuse cases per 100,000 patients prescribed the drug). The data for the 3 years since the drug was introduced show that the reported rate of abuse has been low. Although a period of experimentation seemed to occur in the first 18 months after its introduction--which reached a peak rate of approximately two cases per 100,000 patients exposed--during the 2 year period prior to June 1998, the reported rate of abuse has significantly (P = 0.011) declined, reaching levels of less than one case per 100,000 patients in the last 18 months. The overwhelming majority of abuse cases (97%) have been found to occur among individuals with a history of substance abuse and the abuse has been confined to isolated pockets around the country-notably none of which have significant populations of street drug abusers. Thus, the data support the decision not to schedule Tramadol and, furthermore, suggest that a proactive post-marketing surveillance program can be successfully developed to effectively monitor abuse of new medications.

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This should provide some relief....so the medication should stay unscheduled, cheap, easily obtained online, and easily prescribed. My doctor has me just call a refill in to his secretary without question twice a month. I have insurance and pay $8 for 30 50mg Ultram brand tablets.

correction the tablets are Tramadol generic.

They are round white tablets made by Ivax pharms.

just out of curiosity - i'm in baja and don't have enough of my regular hydros with me (stupid yes i know). so i bought some Tramadol. i took one 50mg capsule earlier and unless something changes, this is probably all i'll have for the next three days. has anyone experienced this bad withdrawal i keep reading about after just a few days use?

i'm a little nervous now

i can feel it in my system and it is definitely helping with my condition, without a doubt.

best wishes to all.

update:

headache...

I would not not worry about it. I have had a bit of withdrawal, but it goes away in a few days. I do not take very much, but it is helpful to have some sort of valium... a benzo to help calm you down. Benzo withdrawal is much worse, but you'll only get that if you take it for prolonged periods of time. Try to get some librium or valium or clonazepam and that will help. If you want to withdraw with alcohol, wait a bit until you come off Tramadol because alcohol and Tramadol can cause seizures.

This thread is to talk Tramadol as a med and not to discuss who offers it or who has the nest prices.
We have other forums for that.

Do you know which generic they ship?
Imprint codes or whatever.

Thanks

No pharmacy talk please. This thread is about Tramadol as a med

Is Ultram or Tramadol a narcotic?

Narcotic is a mis-used term IMO. Not sure what you mean by it.
I believe it is a partial opioid agonist.

See DB's description
http://www.drugbuyers.com/freeboard/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=145413

Also you can search here on DB and find more info.

Also you can go to rxlist.com and look it up.