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#631098 - 01/15/08 02:56 AM hydrocodone, and why it doesnt exist???
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This question was posted on VIP and was hoping we could get a better answer over here.

What prevents anyone or any pharmacuetical company in any other country from purchasing hydrocodone by the kilo, from a supplier located here , and start pill pressing their own generic?

They sell internationally and their bulk price on hydrocodone breaks down to $.01/mg.

What prevents a mexican pharmacy from purchasing this and compounding thier own pills?

Is it agianst mexican laws to purchase this? or agianst american laws to sell abroad?

It just seems strange that this drug isn't available to the rest of the world.

Oh and everyone, please dont go and flood Spectrum Chemical with a bunch of bunk orders. They aren't going to fill it for you. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LICENSE TO PURCHASE and it's illegal for you to attempt to purchase. DONT DO IT
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#631101 - 01/15/08 03:06 AM Re: hydrocodone, and why it doesnt exist??? [Re: OPPuNOme]
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A brick-and-mortar pharmacy in the UK would only be able to purchase drugs that have been approved for use within the UK, and the Formulary states which companies they can purchase from. For example, they are not allowed to buy cheap diazepam from Pakistan and fill it against a UK prescription, because the medicine must have a UK product licence.

Other countries, I don't know, but hydrocodone is used in Germany.


Edited by nephro (01/15/08 03:06 AM)

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#631215 - 01/15/08 08:33 AM Re: hydrocodone, and why it doesnt exist??? [Re: nephro]
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You used to be able to get it in Mexico, you cant now?

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#631218 - 01/15/08 08:35 AM Re: hydrocodone, and why it doesnt exist??? [Re: nephro]
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I've also heard that Germany uses hydrocodone in their cough elixers..... I can't remember the name of it, but I heard that their is a german website that used to carry it.

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#631223 - 01/15/08 08:38 AM Re: hydrocodone, and why it doesnt exist??? [Re: rla76]
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I remember also ,I used to get Norco 10 in mexico, but thay don't exist down there now....as far as I know.....

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#631443 - 01/15/08 01:58 PM Re: hydrocodone, and why it doesnt exist??? [Re: rla76]
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#638330 - 01/26/08 05:11 PM Re: hydrocodone, and why it doesnt exist??? [Re: nephro]
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The last time I went to Mexico, in late 2002, they did not have hydrocodone. I went to a doctor there, and he told me the closest he could come is Percodan. I was not familiar w/ the drug, so I declined a script for it. I'm not sure if my experience was the norm since I went to a town right across the border. I figured more options are available the deeper you go into Mexico.

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#638334 - 01/26/08 05:18 PM Re: hydrocodone, and why it doesnt exist??? [Re: Arizona]
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 Originally Posted By: Arizona
The last time I went to Mexico, in late 2002, they did not have hydrocodone. I went to a doctor there, and he told me the closest he could come is Percodan. I was not familiar w/ the drug, so I declined a script for it. I'm not sure if my experience was the norm since I went to a town right across the border. I figured more options are available the deeper you go into Mexico.


a percodan is oxycodone & aspirin. (would have given much better relief than the hydro/apap you were seeking) ~ in my opinion anyway. some would argue i guess...
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#638335 - 01/26/08 05:19 PM Re: hydrocodone, and why it doesnt exist??? [Re: Arizona]
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 Originally Posted By: Arizona
The last time I went to Mexico, in late 2002, they did not have hydrocodone. I went to a doctor there, and he told me the closest he could come is Percodan. I was not familiar w/ the drug, so I declined a script for it. I'm not sure if my experience was the norm since I went to a town right across the border. I figured more options are available the deeper you go into Mexico.


IF, and it is a bif IF, he had percodan, WTF did you say no?? Percodan (oxy and aspirin) is stronger than hydro, by most opinions. I really think he was referring to neo-percodan, an almost worthless med which is close to darvon.

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#638940 - 01/27/08 08:56 PM Re: hydrocodone, and why it doesnt exist??? [Re: OldandWorn]
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yup, must have been neo-percodan; not worthless, not desirable either.

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#639869 - 01/29/08 11:47 AM Re: hydrocodone, and why it doesnt exist??? [Re: bluster]
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I know a guy over the internet that used to be a Mexican physician. He said that the last couple of years the Mexican govt. has been even worse than the US DEA when it comes to pain medication. Doctors are very afraid to prescribe anything anymore down there. He said that cancer patients are dying in debilitating pain everyday and the most they will give them is low dose codeine most times. He said it is a sad state of affairs.

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#651627 - 02/17/08 11:54 AM Re: hydrocodone, and why it doesnt exist??? [Re: Jimmy_Thang]
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Doctors in Mexico are opio-phobic and there is very little available anyway. Anything that would provide real relief is for use in hospitals only.
For rx use there is bascially temgesic or tylex w/ 30mg codeine.
As far as percodan goes, it doesn't exist in Mexico legally either. What they have is something called neo-percodan. A lot of unscrupulous pharmacies will try to pass this off as percodan to the uneducated tourist. A look at the ingredients will tell you it's just darvocet.


Edited by salchicha (02/17/08 11:57 AM)

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#678168 - 04/02/08 04:12 PM Re: hydrocodone, and why it doesnt exist??? [Re: OPPuNOme]
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As I stated in other posts, I was able to recently purchase hyrdro yellow watsons, 10/325 at a mexican pharm. They said of course, I did not need a script, it is legal to buy OTC. All the pharms I priced at had hydro, and they were all on the main strip in Cabo! Signs out front advertising it, however, they do pull it out from under the counter. Just ask, and it is there. I had my script just in case, I just did not bring enough with me, and took a good fall on some tile and jacked up my back. They were indeed the real deal! I was pleasantly suprised! Funny, the 10/325 and 5/500 were the same price, they did not seem to know the difference in the two.



 Originally Posted By: OPPuNOme
This question was posted on VIP and was hoping we could get a better answer over here.

What prevents anyone or any pharmacuetical company in any other country from purchasing hydrocodone by the kilo, from a supplier located here , and start pill pressing their own generic?

They sell internationally and their bulk price on hydrocodone breaks down to $.01/mg.

What prevents a mexican pharmacy from purchasing this and compounding thier own pills?

Is it agianst mexican laws to purchase this? or agianst american laws to sell abroad?

It just seems strange that this drug isn't available to the rest of the world.

Oh and everyone, please dont go and flood Spectrum Chemical with a bunch of bunk orders. They aren't going to fill it for you. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LICENSE TO PURCHASE and it's illegal for you to attempt to purchase. DONT DO IT

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#678172 - 04/02/08 04:15 PM Re: hydrocodone, and why it doesnt exist??? [Re: Arizona]
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I found hydro everywhere in Mexico. Not off the beaten path at all, right there in the tourist area. No lines, just asked, and they always pulled it out. They were always Watsons..10's and 5's.


 Originally Posted By: Arizona
The last time I went to Mexico, in late 2002, they did not have hydrocodone. I went to a doctor there, and he told me the closest he could come is Percodan. I was not familiar w/ the drug, so I declined a script for it. I'm not sure if my experience was the norm since I went to a town right across the border. I figured more options are available the deeper you go into Mexico.

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#678262 - 04/02/08 10:26 PM Re: hydrocodone, and why it doesnt exist??? [Re: sandydune33]
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I think the last line in the post quoted from OPPuNOme said it all. You have to have a DEA license to purchase bulk Hydrocodone. I don't thinf the DEA grants distibutorship licenses to overseas company's that they would have no control over the manufactoring and distibution of the product.
I saw a link on this board to a bulk distributor selling this drug by the 100 grams in the 2,500.00 range and 1 or 2 kilo in the 10,000 dollar range.
Big red letters " please provide your DEA registration license before placing order "
gabie

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#678265 - 04/02/08 10:56 PM Re: hydrocodone, and why it doesnt exist??? [Re: gabie]
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Hi all- I was wondering if anyone has taken Interpharm lortab. It is a white pill with IP 119 on it. I just got it recently from my order and it feels stronger than other generic brands. Anyone ever had it? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Also, I was wondering if you by hydro in Mexico, do they ever question you in the airport if you have a script of 60 or more? Just wondering.

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#678654 - 04/03/08 04:02 PM Re: hydrocodone, and why it doesnt exist??? [Re: tngrad08]
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Interpharm is very good in my opinion
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#678686 - 04/03/08 05:10 PM Re: hydrocodone, and why it doesnt exist??? [Re: drbear]
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thanks drbear- did it ever give you any headaches or an upset stomach?

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#678757 - 04/03/08 07:13 PM Re: hydrocodone, and why it doesnt exist??? [Re: drbear]
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Agreed, Interpharm works well. Just took a couple as a matter of fact.
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#678844 - 04/03/08 10:56 PM Re: hydrocodone, and why it doesnt exist??? [Re: Atrayus]
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It just seems stronger to me than the watsons I have taken before. Could it have anything to do with the inactive ingredients? It makes me feel sick to my stomach and sometimes I get a rebound headache.

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#679303 - 04/04/08 08:33 PM Re: hydrocodone, and why it doesnt exist??? [Re: tngrad08]
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I get a headache as well after taking them. It comes after a few hours when they start wearing off. Oxy does that to me too.
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#679323 - 04/04/08 09:36 PM Re: hydrocodone, and why it doesnt exist??? [Re: Atrayus]
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Hmm. I haven't the last few days, I guess my body is getting used to the new brand. I don't get a headache at all when I take Watsons. Are the IP brand rare? I never see them at my local pharmacies.

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#681438 - 04/09/08 12:26 PM Re: hydrocodone, and why it doesnt exist??? [Re: tngrad08]
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Where do you obtain the InterPharm ones?
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#681451 - 04/09/08 12:40 PM Re: hydrocodone, and why it doesnt exist??? [Re: tngrad08]
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I got them at Wal-Mart one time. Usually they gave me the Qualitest yellow ones, but one time they gave me the Interpharm. They didn't bother me, but most medicines don't.

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#681634 - 04/09/08 06:10 PM Re: hydrocodone, and why it doesnt exist??? [Re: OPPuNOme]
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 Originally Posted By: OPPuNOme
This question was posted on VIP and was hoping we could get a better answer over here.

What prevents anyone or any pharmacuetical company in any other country from purchasing hydrocodone by the kilo, from a supplier located here , and start pill pressing their own generic?

They sell internationally and their bulk price on hydrocodone breaks down to $.01/mg.

What prevents a mexican pharmacy from purchasing this and compounding thier own pills?

Is it agianst mexican laws to purchase this? or agianst american laws to sell abroad?

It just seems strange that this drug isn't available to the rest of the world.


Practically speaking, I think it has more to do with the time it takes to make up the pill. Extra help costs extra money. And if they get sick and don't show up for work, then there's a problem.

It may have more to do with cost effectiveness for the business than anything else. Time is money in the business world.
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#681658 - 04/09/08 07:20 PM Re: hydrocodone, and why it doesnt exist??? [Re: kserah]
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You forget the basic problem with a foreign company buying bulk hydrocdone from the above web site.
1. First and foremost, you must provide your DEA registration # before ordering.

I saw 100 mg of pure hrdro powder for 2,800 bucks. A kilo (2.2lbs?) for 10,000 dollors

2. Do you really think the DEA is going to grant a liscense to a company from another country where the DEA would have no jurisdiction and control of its manufactoring and dispensing. NO WAY!

Thats why hydrocodone remains a USA chemical only.

Jurisdiction
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#681660 - 04/09/08 07:22 PM Re: hydrocodone, and why it doesnt exist??? [Re: gabie]
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It's available on prescription in Germany also.

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#681684 - 04/09/08 08:29 PM Re: hydrocodone, and why it doesnt exist??? [Re: gabie]
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Seems to me that with enough money, anything can be exchanged. Human beings will ALWAYS find a way to get what they want.
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#686543 - 04/21/08 04:02 PM Re: hydrocodone, and why it doesnt exist??? [Re: kserah]
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Hydro and oxy all can be found in mexico, pretty easy too.

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#686612 - 04/21/08 06:53 PM Re: hydrocodone, and why it doesnt exist??? [Re: Daniel35]
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I am always concerned when ordering from someone in the south like mexico, or other south american Country's. I have received more LL's from them than I have ordering from anywhere else. Not sure if it is just bad luck or what.
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