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#605982 - 11/27/07 09:16 PM DEA says: READ THIS BEFORE PURCHASING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OVER THE INTERNET !!!
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http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/consumer_alert.htm

DEA Warning

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DEA Warning--Buying drugs online may be illegal and dangerous!

Federal law prohibits buying controlled substances such as narcotic pain relievers (e.g., OxyContin®, Vicodin ®), sedatives (e.g., Valium®, Xanax®, Ambien®), stimulants (e.g., phentermine, phendimetrazine, Adderall®, Ritalin®) and anabolic steroids (e.g., Winstrol®, Equipoise®) without a valid prescription from your doctor. This means there must be a real doctor-patient relationship, which by most state laws requires a physical examination. Prescriptions written by "cyber doctors" relying on online questionnaires are not legitimate under the law.

Buying controlled substances online without a valid prescription may be punishable by imprisonment under Federal law. Often drugs ordered from rogue websites come from foreign countries. It is a felony to import drugs into the United States and ship to a non-DEA registrant.

Buying drugs online may not be only illegal, but dangerous. The American Medical Association and state boards of medicine and pharmacy have all condemned the practice of cyber doctors issuing online prescriptions as unacceptable medical care. Drugs delivered by rogue websites may be the wrong drugs, adulterated or expired, the wrong dosage strength, or have no dosage directions or warnings.

DEA is targeting rogue online pharmacies for prosecution and shutting down these illegal websites. See the results of one such investigation, Operation Cyber Chase, at www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/pressrel/pr042005.html .

How to spot a rogue pharmacy: www.DEAdiversion.usdoj.gov/faq/internetpurch.htm

To report illegal prescription drug sales and/or rogue pharmacies operating on the Internet call the anonymous Pharmaceutical Drug Abuse Hotline: 1-877-RxAbuse (1-877-792-2873)
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#964976 - 11/18/09 05:11 AM Re: DEA says: READ THIS BEFORE PURCHASING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OVER THE INTERNET !!! [Re: Administrator]
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The link doesn't work anymore for any of the DEA sites!
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#964979 - 11/18/09 05:57 AM Re: DEA says: READ THIS BEFORE PURCHASING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OVER THE INTERNET !!! [Re: criskns]
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This one is still here:

http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/consumer_alert.htm

I would imagine this is the one linked to about the story of a bust on 4/20/05.

http://www.justice.gov/usao/nye/pr/2005/2005apr20.html

And this one is basically the same as the DEA one mentioned in the post.

http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/fed_regs/notices/2001/fr0427.htm

All it took to find this info was an advanced search on the key issues.
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#964992 - 11/18/09 07:58 AM Re: DEA says: READ THIS BEFORE PURCHASING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OVER THE INTERNET !!! [Re: Stacy]
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Links and pages change
I think that was part of an information effort... when people searched the net for certain meds the results would bring that DEA info page

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Is It Illegal to Obtain Controlled Substances From the Internet?

For a prescription to be valid under federal and state law, there must be a bona fide doctor patient relationship, which is defined by most state laws to require a physical examination. “Completing a questionnaire that is then reviewed by a doctor hired by the internet pharmacy could not be considered the basis for a doctor/patient relationship.” Vol. 66 Federal Register 82, PP 21181-21184 (April 27, 2001)

Moreover, if the prescription drug is a controlled substance and the drug is being imported into the U.S. from a foreign country and being shipped to anyone other than a DEA-registered importer, such transaction is a felony in violation of Sections 957 and 960 of Title 21, United States Code.


http://www.justice.gov/dea/illegal_internet.html
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#965049 - 11/18/09 10:38 AM Re: DEA says: READ THIS BEFORE PURCHASING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OVER THE INTERNET !!! [Re: Administrator]
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Gosh I almost hate to post this, but if this is the law - why does the fed govt bother w/legal letters? Why don't they just issue warrants?
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#965074 - 11/18/09 11:10 AM Re: DEA says: READ THIS BEFORE PURCHASING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OVER THE INTERNET !!! [Re: meonlyits]
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Maybe cause, they can't tell if the recipients are licensed to import? Although I would think there would be a database of that info.
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#965079 - 11/18/09 11:17 AM Re: DEA says: READ THIS BEFORE PURCHASING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OVER THE INTERNET !!! [Re: meonlyits]
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Originally Posted By: meonlyits
Gosh I almost hate to post this, but if this is the law - why does the fed govt bother w/legal letters?

Mostly pure scare tactics. I think they also may be legally required to do so.
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#965094 - 11/18/09 12:06 PM Re: DEA says: READ THIS BEFORE PURCHASING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OVER THE INTERNET !!! [Re: cleo911]
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The operation Cyberchase article was dated 2005. some of that is old. still valid I guess, But old.

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#966305 - 11/20/09 01:07 AM Re: DEA says: READ THIS BEFORE PURCHASING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OVER THE INTERNET !!! [Re: meonlyits]
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Because there are always "chain of custody" proof problems most of which can be solved if the recepient of their letter is dumb enough to respond to it.

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#966565 - 11/20/09 02:01 PM Re: DEA says: READ THIS BEFORE PURCHASING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OVER THE INTERNET !!! [Re: aleut]
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It is very scary to realize what they could actually do to one, if they so decided to.

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#966572 - 11/20/09 02:13 PM Re: DEA says: READ THIS BEFORE PURCHASING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OVER THE INTERNET !!! [Re: aleut]
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Originally Posted By: aleut
Because there are always "chain of custody" proof problems most of which can be solved if the recepient of their letter is dumb enough to respond to it.


Bingo. Makes sense.
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#971978 - 11/30/09 08:54 AM Re: DEA says: READ THIS BEFORE PURCHASING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OVER THE INTERNET !!! [Re: meonlyits]
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Does make sense, but there is another wild card variable. That is the magical selective enforcement fairy: seldom seen ,but very much real. To all those going after whatever today's hottest 'forbidden fruit' is (at least in there non compassionate eyes) it should always be in the back of our minds. If you draw the short straw of oh crap they can,will & surly have crucified people....sad as it is it does happen.

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#971990 - 11/30/09 09:45 AM Re: DEA says: READ THIS BEFORE PURCHASING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OVER THE INTERNET !!! [Re: aleut]
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Originally Posted By: aleut
Because there are always "chain of custody" proof problems most of which can be solved if the recepient of their letter is dumb enough to respond to it.


Or go to the local Fed-Ex or UPS and put a trace on that package from SY that is late...
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#971995 - 11/30/09 10:11 AM Re: DEA says: READ THIS BEFORE PURCHASING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OVER THE INTERNET !!! [Re: Groucho_fan]
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Does anyone know what the penalty would be for people like ourselves buying a month worth of meds a few times a year or even monthly? Would LE go looking for all of that persons activity for the penalty or would the punishment be just from the order that got them in trouble?

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#972004 - 11/30/09 10:41 AM Re: DEA says: READ THIS BEFORE PURCHASING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OVER THE INTERNET !!! [Re: Rnet]
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You know what gets to me? Although I've never ordered from IOPs, BI's etc, I watched all these Dr's being busted, Pharmacies being raided, OCS's being shut down, But NEVER EVER have I heard of anyone being busted/arrested for either selling fake meds or taking the money and not shipping anything. It would seem that assisting patients in need is illegal but STEALING is perfectly fine.

My guess is Dr's, Pharms & OCS's are "easy targets" and thieves are too much work.

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#972006 - 11/30/09 11:05 AM Re: DEA says: READ THIS BEFORE PURCHASING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OVER THE INTERNET !!! [Re: resorts]
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Originally Posted By: resorts
You know what gets to me? Although I've never ordered from IOPs, BI's etc, I watched all these Dr's being busted, Pharmacies being raided, OCS's being shut down, But NEVER EVER have I heard of anyone being busted/arrested for either selling fake meds or taking the money and not shipping anything. It would seem that assisting patients in need is illegal but STEALING is perfectly fine.

My guess is Dr's, Pharms & OCS's are "easy targets" and thieves are too much work.

I have noticed the same thing... Sad, isn't it?
They could easily hit these scumbags with fraud, money laundering, intent to distribute (even if they never planned on sending anything, or sent a box of marbles) and a host of other charges. But it seems all the scammers go unscathed, yet the places that are actually helping some people are targeted with full force. Not saying what they are doing by sending meds is legal or OK, but it is crazy that one can set out to rip people off and never really have to worry about much. I have seen people arrested on cops selling drywall and flour as you know what and they still get arrested and charged as if it was the real thing, but people that do this over the net seem to have no issues and continue to take peoples money. Many of whom are poor, have no INS, and are just looking for a bit of relief at a price they can afford. Sad sad sad...
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#972190 - 11/30/09 05:36 PM Re: DEA says: READ THIS BEFORE PURCHASING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OVER THE INTERNET !!! [Re: funkybreakz]
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I find this climate of fear very sad indeed. I for one would be scared to have anything to do with controlled substances unless my physician was involved and he never will be because he himself is afraid of prescribing controlled substances.

What I find also upsetting is a personal importation policy which allows pharmacists to import medicines for personal use. Why would a pharmacist import medicines for personal use? and why not us then? it makes no sense. To prosecute people, you need warrants, judges, courts, trials, appeals, all of which are expensive to the state and to the individual.

The advent of databases makes one thing clear: we are being watched.

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#972303 - 11/30/09 10:20 PM Re: DEA says: READ THIS BEFORE PURCHASING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OVER THE INTERNET !!! [Re: ]
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I like what resorts said,
Scamming people out of there hard earned money = OK
Actually delivering what people in need pay for = Federal Offence

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#975436 - 12/07/09 09:56 AM Re: DEA says: READ THIS BEFORE PURCHASING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OVER THE INTERNET !!! [Re: 479abc]
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Originally Posted By: 479abc
Does anyone know what the penalty would be for people like ourselves buying a month worth of meds a few times a year or even monthly? Would LE go looking for all of that persons activity for the penalty or would the punishment be just from the order that got them in trouble?


I think you would have to assume the worst outcome is certainly a possibility ... who know about the details

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#975699 - 12/07/09 10:32 PM Re: DEA says: READ THIS BEFORE PURCHASING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OVER THE INTERNET !!! [Re: rick9194]
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They wouldn't go after you, if someone is dispensing meds illigally, they go down, although, they usually have a safety net in place. Americans are going to be to able to start buying their prescriptions meds from across the border legally, for competitions sake. Canadian pharmacies never sold drugs to american citizens, they were american companies, canada can't ship controlled medications.
What's a fair price for 100 percocet 10/325's?

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#977542 - 12/11/09 03:36 PM Re: DEA says: READ THIS BEFORE PURCHASING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OVER THE INTERNET !!! [Re: bonechips89]
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well, last time I got a script for 120 count 10/325 percocets I had to pay about $200.00 with no insurance, however if you are talking "street" value (which I do not think is supposed to be discussed here) I have heard anywhere from .50 cents to $1.00 per mg of oxycodone is the norm, so for 100 10/325mg, some people will probably pay anywhere from $500-$1000

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#977564 - 12/11/09 04:29 PM Re: DEA says: READ THIS BEFORE PURCHASING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OVER THE INTERNET !!! [Re: soretristan]
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You have an amazing pharmacy if you are talking about brand Percocet 10mg/325mg tablets.
An average drugstore price would be approximately $5/each.
Even the generic would typically cost 15%-20% more than what you paid.
You should hang on to that pharmacy!

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#978425 - 12/13/09 05:46 AM Re: DEA says: READ THIS BEFORE PURCHASING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OVER THE INTERNET !!! [Re: martind]
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Martin, maybe it depends on what part of the country you live in?

I was on 120 percocets a month, and the generics always seemed to give me a stomach ache (Mallies) so one month I asked for the name brand (we have insurance so generics were $10.00, name brand was full price). I paid $159.00 for the brand name ones, because I had to look at my husband and ask him with my eyes if he thought it was too much. He basically slightly shook his head up and down to say it was okay, so I got the name brand.

I think that Watson percoets or Endocets are the best so that's what I get now.

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#978510 - 12/13/09 01:08 PM Re: DEA says: READ THIS BEFORE PURCHASING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OVER THE INTERNET !!! [Re: resorts]
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Reputable physicians are also being targeted by sting operations by these federally funded prescription drug abuse prevention agenceys. They have people try to get any doctor to write a prescription for narcotics to underaged people, convicted drug pushers they make deals with, etc and try to and have created a fear of loss of license in the medical community. No wonder my doctor and others are so backwards about writing pain meds. Depending on what part of the country you live in it can get ridiculous. I heard a pastor tell his congregation that oxycontin should not be prescribed even to terminally ill cancer patients! Strange. Tragic. Almost hopeless situations.

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