can someone tell me if 2mg gador are the bars? Thanks alot

Indeed they are...even have the scores in them

thanks alot mikey

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Hello everybody,new to this forum,but in desperate need of some help.I have been diagnosed with general anxiety disorder and no longer have access to zanax which is the only medication that allows me to sleep at night.Does anybody know of a reliable international pharmacy that can ship in a reasonable short period of time,price is no object.
Thanks in advance:}

stay away from benzos if you can, especially shortacting ones like xanax, with xanax if you miss one dose youll be in withdrawal hell, unlike other drugs benzo withdrwal can last months. Speaking from experience.

has anyone tried mixing zoloft w wellbutrin, that used to work much better for me for anxiety, wellbutrin by itself made more anxious but when mixed with wellbutrin i felt super calm, much more so than with benzos.


If youve tried everything else and only benzos work, talk to your doc about valium, seems like the best benzo, longest half life, easiest to get off of.

Also, not prying, but if you were "diagnosed" with GAD, then where was the follow up? A dr. does not just issue a diagnosis without some treatment options. What happened? If your condition has been medically evaluated as such, certainly the physician you saw would have 1) referred you to a specialist, or 2) started you on a course of paxil, and/or klonopin, or something similar.

sounds like you just want xanax
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Thank you for your reply,there was follow up and i was prescrbed clonopin,but now the doctor wants me off it and prescribed celxia,i have been taking the med for a month now and no results,i am almost out of the clonopin and don't want to use them for sleep.She also prescribed Ambien cr and it has no effect also.Sorry for the urgency in my post but i have gone 5 days without sleep and getting a little desperate.Any help or info would be greatly appreciated.:}

Sorry to here of your dilemma. All I can say is I wish you luck in finding proper treatment!

I’ve had insomnia for years now, all the way back to my college days when I became accustomed to staying up all night cramming for tests. I used to take diazepam but it made me drowsy the next morning. I started taking Benadryl a few days a week and it has worked wonders for years. It’s not habit forming and works even if you take it every night, although I seldom have to. You can save a bundle buying it generic as Diphenhydramine from the pharmacist without a prescription. The recommended dose is 25mg but I’ve been taking 50mg and never experienced any problems.

Diphenhydramine is sold as a 50mg dose in the UK - "Nytol Forte" or something, so I wouldn't worry about that.

In reference to the OP, Xanax is totally unsuitable for GAD.

diphenhydramine is sold in the states in 25mg capsules as far as I know (no 'script needed!). I have to keep it 'on hand' for my dogs as far as allergic reactions.

It was once known as 'the sleep drug of the '80's'. It works very nicely for people who have not found a use for valium or other sleep drugs. Perhaps works anyway.........

Don't know contraindications w/other drugs........

If you have found no help from the Celexa, there are other ADs you can try for GAD and your doctor may continue the klonopin while you try other meds. Xanax is helpful for panic attacks, but I agree it isn't the solution for GAD, and it is not the right med for insomnia.

Warning don't take Xanax unless you have to for an anxiety disorder!

I was diagnosed with GAD by a Psychiatrist. We followed up by trying various drugs and found the best combination was Xanax, Wellbutrin and Klonopin. I can not "cure" this illness, I can't talk my way through it with a counselor. I see a PCP who writes a script for my meds each month. To be honest they have been a lifesaver. Where I didn't dare leave my home or work and I was always worried what others think; now I have a great paying job, I have no issues leaving my house and I don't give a d@mn what others think.

I would highly recommend NOT taking Xanax if you haven't talked to a doctor. I am highly dependent on them (after 14 years of taking them) and 1 day I ran out, it was hell on earth and I now wonder how I lived through that day.

Klonopin I can do without and have before. Xanax I can't. Like I have posted before, they can bury me with my Xanax bottle. I can say the good outweighs the bad but I wouldn't dare take it without a doctor diagnosing me first. One milligram of Xanax is much stronger then Valium or Lorazepam (I can take 10 of Lorazepams and they do nothing to calm my anxiety.)

Thank you for your post,my experience is almost identical to what you went through.The psychiatrist first prescribed lexipro which increased the insomnia,then effexor which gave me headaches,she then wrote me a script for zanax for one month and then said she wanted me off it and then prescribed clonopin which she wants me off of now.

The celexa has had no effect after more than a month,maybe i should ask her to try the wellbutrin.She has suggested group therapy which in my opinion i would rather talk to my dog as he seems to listen better and gives me more attention.

Maybe you should find a new doctor if she is prescribing, and then taking away meds without taking your symptoms into account. It can take a lot of trial and error to find the right medications, and so many doctors so worried about addiction they leave their patients suffering.
Wellbutrin tends to be stimulating and often increases anxiety so that may not be the best medication for your condition.

Don't give up! I have seen many doctors. One put me on lithium, I was a walking zombie and my spouse knew something was up. My spouse flushed the lithium and ordered me to see another doctor. The next one tried buspar (it did nothing). Then the doctor put me on Xanax (it worked). Over the course of years (because of moving) I've had to see other doctors. One tried to put me on depakote (gotta love when you are going through a crisis and the doctor attributes your actions to a mental illness and not the crisis itself). I threw that stuff away. Then my next stop was a psychiatrist who was anti Xanax (the guy has probably written a paper on it he is so against it). He tried every medicine to get me off it. Lexapro, Zoloft, other drugs I can't remember. He tried to replace Ativan and Klonopin with Xanax. I remember being in the middle of an anxiety attack and calling and begging them to call in a prescription for Xanax. They wouldn't. That's how I found I could buy them online. I switched doctors who put me back on Xanax (I figured why pay for them if I could get them cheap at the doctors?) The Wellbutrin was for losing weight and to quit smoking and helped me from feeling like doing nothing. The klonopin keeps me even all day.

One day last year I ran out for a few days. Those days were awful. Talk about MAJOR depersonalization. Nothing would make it go away. I was very paranoid and wouldn't leave my house. I tried drinking (doesn't have the same effects as Xanax). Finally I got my refill and I was fine again. It was like being stuck in a black hole and my meds pulled me from that black hole in 10 minutes.

Do not take Xanax unless you have to. While it is literally a god send for some, it is nothing to mess around with. If you want to find out what hell is like, take Xanax for awhile then quit cold turkey. You don't get the side effects like people on Vicodin do, you become a walking paranoid zombie who falls in a black hole and is drowning. I can't explain it any differently. STAY AWAY if you don't need it. It was my life line but it took 5 years to figure it out. Your life line may be something different.

I am sure there are others who've gone through Xanax withdrawals while having GAD and Depersonalization who can provide better insights then I.

Don't run out. Cut them in half, cut them in quarters, but I am telling you even a speck of xanax is a miracle when you are almost out. Just don't run out. You don't want to meet that devil. You better get ready to miss work and hide in your house (or a motel) until you get your meds. If you worry even a little bit your worries will intensify a hundred fold. I am not sure if you get paranoid but if you do your paranoia will be unreal. You'll want to lock yourself away from everyone. You will be a walking Zombie scared to move and afraid of everything around you. This devil is not fun. And you can't dig yourself out because you will be too afraid to see your doctor or go to the ER. Remember take whatever Xanax you have and if you have to cut them up in tiny little pieces. Take them ONLY when you feel a major anxiety attack coming on.

Get a new doctor asap. You can also go to the ER. I had to at one point and the doctor gave me 5 until my refill. Now as you can imagine my biggest fear is running out. I keep backups on hand.

Good luck. If you run out and you need someone to talk to feel free to post or pm me. I hope you don't meet the devil I did. I still have nightmares about those days.

And that right there should be a big enough warning to people playing around with Benzos to stay away from Xanax. It isn't a joke and it isn't funny and I am sure many others can tell you what running out of Xanax means.

That't too much horror to throw at someone - how do you think that person feels now "worrying" that he might have the same effects that you have ? Im sorry, but that was totally unfair - I've been using Xanax for some time for panic attacks, and some days are [censored], and some days aren't... You learn to live by doing this - next time you feel the jitters and you have a few pills left - try to NOT take one and just try to breathe and get past the heart palpitations! Its not a walk in the park, but I once feared feeling palpitations and panic ALL day, then I discovered I could live past an attack and even go a few days until I hit a day that bothers me ALL day...

Im not trying to jump down your throat for warning this person, but you're doing nothing but adding MORE panic and worry to an already delicate condition - there are different opinions on panic attacks, and some positive thinking isn't a myth.......start to try to learn to fight it.

Thanks for the reply posts. I have been in this position before moving from miami to sacramento in 2004 i did not have coverage and avaialabilty to meds ,saw the devil then and spit in his face,it,s not pleasant nor something i would wish on anybody but i will get through it.
Thanks again everyone;}

I'm sorry but that's the nature of the beast when it comes to GAD (which the poster stated they had). Here perhaps a little understanding of GAD will help you realize what happens to people with the illness who don't have their meds. Please note the excessive worry (which I called being paranoid) then imagine not having the meds to control this illness. There is no amount of therapy that helps and the panic attacks are the least of my concerns. I can not will it away, I can not breath through it, I can not make myself stop worrying. I had the illness much longer then 6 months before being diagnosed with it. Xanax and the other meds I take helps take away the worrying. Without the medication I am not the same person and would be fully disabled and probably in an institution. If I could talk to a Psychiatrist (which I have) a therapist (which I have on many occassions) and cure this illness I would give any amount of money. It's not fun, and it's not fun knowing what will happen if you run out of medication. I apologize for being so straightforward but if someone had warned me I would have been much more careful about running out of meds. So I was only trying to let the poster know that it is better to only take a little then to have none at all and why.

Credit to Wikipedia:

"Generalized anxiety disorder (GAD) is an anxiety disorder that is characterized by excessive, uncontrollable and often irrational worry about everyday things, which is disproportionate to the actual source of worry. This excessive worry often interferes with daily functioning, as individuals suffering GAD typically catastrophise, anticipate disaster, and are overly concerned about everyday matters such as health issues, money, family problems, or work difficulties. They often exhibit a variety of physical symptoms, including fatigue, headaches, muscle tension, muscle aches, difficulty swallowing, trembling, twitching[disambiguation needed], irritability, sweating, and hot flashes. These symptoms must be consistent and on-going, persisting at least 6 months, for a formal diagnosis of GAD to be introduced. Approximately 6.8 million American adults experience GAD, affecting about twice as many women as men."