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#571114 - 09/28/07 11:11 AM Re: Ultram - Tramadol ***** [Re: h8pain]
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I have a question,I take 10/325 Norco 2-3 times a day. Me and my husband occasionally go out drinking with friends. We all know the warnings of Tylenol and drinking on the liver but what about Tramadol-Drinking and your liver. I have a px for Tramadol and it mentions something about drinking and liver damage. Does anyone really know? What I'm asking is am I better off with the low dose of tylenol or better off with the the Ultram?

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#571207 - 09/28/07 12:49 PM Re: Ultram - Tramadol [Re: Tiff]
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In reviewing the posts on this thread I couldn't help but notice that some folks benefit from taking Tramadol and hydrocodone together while others say that it's either dangerous or ineffective. SWIM has found that taking Tramadol and hydrocodone together is VERY effective at pain relief. It seems to potentiate the hydro and make it last longer.To answer the previous post question, I have found no credible literature describing liver toxicity and Tramadol. Nothing on the order of APAP and liver toxicity. If I were taking any form of APAP and/or alcohol, I would seperate their administration from one another as much as possible and supplement with NAC, theanine, and silymarin. That's just what I would do however. It's better not to combine or even take seperately, but, bad boys and girls will be bad boys and girls, so it's better to protect yourself as much as possible.

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#571241 - 09/28/07 01:23 PM Re: Ultram - Tramadol [Re: 1kidsmom]
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 Originally Posted By: 1kidsmom
Does anyone know if it's safe to take Aleve with Ultram?



Aleve (naproxen) is an NSAID. Tramadol does not interact with NSAIDs, so Aleve can be used with Ultram.

Tramadol worked great for me for postoperative pain and was not sedating. And I read the story that Tramadol produced noticeable antidepressant effect when SSRIs failed.

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#579447 - 10/11/07 05:07 PM Re: Ultram - Tramadol [Re: JenB]
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I've been taking Tramadol with hydro 10/325 for about a week and it's great. I've found the combination to be excellent at managing my pain levels. I usually don't take them at the same time. I'll take 2 50mg Tramadol and then a hydro about an hour later if I need it. I'm just learning about it's addictive potential and that's been a total suprise!
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#579475 - 10/11/07 05:47 PM Re: Ultram - Tramadol [Re: Tiades]
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With Tramadol, less is better then more. I 've had my times with Trammies and things went south fast. I'm glad it works for you, just be careful with it, OK?

Not that you aren't super careful already, this med can mess with your brains.
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#583664 - 10/18/07 03:09 PM Re: Ultram - Tramadol [Re: ShesTheOne]
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My FP 8 years ago gave me 120 Ultram brand with 5 refills but and i was also getting 120 hydrocodone 10/500s. The Ultram seemed to have little effect on my pain while taking the hydrocodone. Now it has been 5 years since taking hydro on any regular basis and the Tramadol seems to work much better now and the only thing i am taking and only 1 to 3 a day.

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#584184 - 10/19/07 12:45 PM Re: Ultram - Tramadol [Re: cosmicos]
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Can you buy tram from reliable place without any records? I have records, i just don't want to have to go through a consult? PM me if you have reliable sources for it.

Thanks in advance!

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#584186 - 10/19/07 12:51 PM Re: Ultram - Tramadol [Re: rionroby]
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processrx was always a reliable (and cheap) source for me.

why pm a good Tramadol source instead of posting it for everyone? just curious....

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#585119 - 10/21/07 08:31 PM Re: Ultram - Tramadol [Re: scruf]
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Can Tramadol or Ultram be bought OTC in Canada?

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#596858 - 11/11/07 02:18 PM Re: Ultram - Tramadol [Re: rionroby]
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xxx this thread is not to discuss vendors xxx


Edited by Administrator (01/28/08 07:59 PM)

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#598016 - 11/13/07 05:10 PM Re: Ultram - Tramadol [Re: markiepoo]
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If you can get your Dr. to prescribe it for you Rite Aid will price match Costco and you can get #120 for about $11 (that's not using insurance).


Does anyone know of the side effects when trying to quit.

I've tried to quit several times and have had really weird side effects that I don't want to talk about here.

Anyways any info on that subject would be great.

Thanks
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#598044 - 11/13/07 05:28 PM Re: Ultram - Tramadol [Re: Tiff]
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I am not certain as far as liver toxicity, but I have always heard and read not to take Ultram and Hydros together, that it could affect your breathing and so on, but I do not know for certain. I take both, but do not take them within 4-5 hours of each other.
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#639561 - 01/28/08 07:57 PM Re: Ultram - Tramadol [Re: Melody]
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Tramadol is a great drug when used for a legitimate medical condition. I have had fibromyalgia for about 14 years. I was on every time of arthritis drug including those that are no longer on the market. Tramadol is safe when taken at 50 mg every four - six hours along with ibuprofin to manage chronic pain. You can go as high as 100 mg. And sometimes I do on a really bad day. But I am not a drug abuser, I exercise reagularly even though I live with constant pain. I eat right and do everything I can to take care of my body. This drug has been a lifesaver for me. And as far as withdrawels, I can quit taking them for a week at a time and never experience any. I've done it just to ensure I am not becoming dependent on it. I belive those who have issues with the medication are abusers. If you read the posts of these people they are constantly mixing drugs they shouldn't and experimenting for the "high" not out of medical necessity. These are the people who are making drugs harder to get and causing regulations to get worse. I have to order online because I lost my job due to company bankruptcy and no longer have health insurance. Prior to this event, I have always been under a physicians care and the Tramadol is no problem when taken as prescribed. Great drug for those who live with chronic pain.

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#641643 - 01/31/08 04:16 PM Re: Ultram - Tramadol [Re: markiepoo]
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Anyone else have any experience with alcohol and Tramadol? Obviously don't expect to do it often, but might once in a blue moon.

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#641783 - 01/31/08 07:40 PM Re: Ultram - Tramadol [Re: doogie88]
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I read that one person believes it might contribute to seizures, and one said liver toxicity.

I'm taking a shot in the dark it says not to take with alcohol because alcohol is a downer, and this may make you a bit drowsy as well?

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#641897 - 01/31/08 11:17 PM Re: Ultram - Tramadol [Re: ShesTheOne]
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 Originally Posted By: ShesTheOne
I 've had my times with Trammies and things went south fast.....this med can mess with your brains.

May I ask what you mean about Tramadol messing with your brain? One really irritating side effect I have experienced is stuttering - and this is so not conducive to my job. It's like my brain just putters out... Does that make sense? I have come to a point where I just don't know what benefits I receieve from Tramadol. And I really worry about seizures - I take Wellbutrin daily...

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#641973 - 02/01/08 06:46 AM Re: Ultram - Tramadol [Re: chloebaby]
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I would not drink while on them. Will make you sicker than a dog.

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#642142 - 02/01/08 11:17 AM Re: Ultram - Tramadol [Re: ]
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dreamtoo, Same thing with my friend. She was in the hospital for 3 days with withdrawl from Tramadol

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#642209 - 02/01/08 01:20 PM Re: Ultram - Tramadol [Re: chloebaby]
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May I ask what you mean about Tramadol messing with your brain? One really irritating side effect I have experienced is stuttering - and this is so not conducive to my job. It's like my brain just putters out... Does that make sense? I have come to a point where I just don't know what benefits I receieve from Tramadol. And I really worry about seizures - I take Wellbutrin daily...


I have read on the board many times that antidepressants(wellbutrin) and Tramadol DO NOT mix. there is a site that allows you to type in your meds for interaction warnings - anyone remember the name of it? it's very useful.

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#642238 - 02/01/08 02:06 PM Re: Ultram - Tramadol [Re: scruf]
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chloebaby, Did the doctor give you wellbutrin and Tramadol together. The reason I ask is years ago my doc perscribed the two together and when I got them filled the pharm said they should never be taken together.

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#642298 - 02/01/08 03:31 PM Re: Ultram - Tramadol [Re: Boocee]
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Tramadol SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN WITH ANY SSRI OR SNRI. I DON'T MEAN TO YELL, BUT THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT...MANY PEOPLE HAVE HAD SEIZURES WHILE TAKING AN ANTIDEPRESSANT/ANTI-ANXIETY W/Tramadol BECAUSE IT LOWERS THE SEIZURE THRESHOLD. SERIOUSLY, DO YOUR RESEARCH, AND DO NOT MAKE LIGHT OF THIS SITUATION. YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE 5-10 TRAMMIES FOR THIS TO HAPPEN....1 IS ALL IT TAKES!

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#642445 - 02/01/08 07:16 PM Re: Ultram - Tramadol [Re: Alyssa03]
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#642932 - 02/02/08 07:31 PM Re: Ultram - Tramadol [Re: shadowlord]
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This drug has been a lifesaver for me. And as far as withdrawels, I can quit taking them for a week at a time and never experience any. I've done it just to ensure I am not becoming dependent on it. I belive those who have issues with the medication are abusers.


Your belief is based on your experience but there are many variables and everyone is different. I have never taken more than 50mg. twice a day and take nothing with it but over the counter advil on bad days and I still feel physical withdrawals that are very uncomfortable if I try to stop for 1 day.

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#643038 - 02/03/08 12:45 AM Re: Ultram - Tramadol [Re: ]
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ANY THOUGHTS ? OBJECTIONS ? VENOM ? HATE ? RESENTMENTS ?
yeah - the all caps is rude and annoying. why not opt for all lower-case if you don't want to bother with shift key?

imo, Tramadol is addictive, no doubt about it. I thought all the board members knew by now not to mix ssri's and Tramadol.

the website for checking med interactions is https://www.aidsmeds.com/cmm/. rather disturbing site name, but the check my meds feature here is very useful.

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#643132 - 02/03/08 10:31 AM Re: Ultram - Tramadol [Re: scruf]
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I was only trying to get everyone's attention with the caps.... sorry for being so rude and annoying. There are sooo many people out there who don't know that you shouldn't mix Tramadol with SSRIs...I see posts almost daily about it. I was only trying to help and save somebody from having a possible seizure. Excuse my terrible on-line etiquette~

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#643134 - 02/03/08 10:36 AM Re: Ultram - Tramadol [Re: ]
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First of all Clonazepan is not an SSRI...it is a benzo, so what does that have to do w/anything?

Aren't you the one who called everyone idiots for not knowing about heroin???

No venom or hate here, I was merely trying to get people's attention who were taking Tramadol w/SSRIs~ they have no idea how dangerous it is.

Don't worry, I willl never annoy anyone again with my caps.

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#643185 - 02/03/08 12:03 PM Re: Ultram - Tramadol [Re: Alyssa03]
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alyssa - I was referring to bertinetti on the caps thing, and yes, he's the one that called us idiots for not knowing about heroin.

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#643194 - 02/03/08 12:28 PM Re: Ultram - Tramadol [Re: scruf]
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This has been discussed before in great detail; even Chemsynth got involved. We never reached a conclusion. Potentially there are interactions between Tramadol and SSRIs/SNRIs, but so many people are on these drugs, who also have pain, and there are so many doctors who want to give Tramadol instead of traditional opioids, that many patients have no choice.

Also there are quite a few people on this board who take the 2 drugs together and don't experience problems.

Bertinetti was commenting on clonazepam because it raises the seizure threshold.

Serotonin syndrome is the main concern, and patients on these drugs ought to look out for the signs of this.

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#643230 - 02/03/08 03:19 PM Re: Ultram - Tramadol [Re: scruf]
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Sorry Scruf,

I guess my feathers got a little ruffled too easily this morning. I appreciate the explanation.

Thanks,
Alyssa

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#643252 - 02/03/08 04:33 PM Re: Ultram - Tramadol [Re: Boocee]
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 Originally Posted By: Boocee
chloebaby, Did the doctor give you wellbutrin and tramadol together. The reason I ask is years ago my doc perscribed the two together and when I got them filled the pharm said they should never be taken together.

No, I did not receive wellbutrin and Tramadol at the same time by the same doc. I received the wellbutrin from my psychiatrist, and the Tramadol from my family physician after somewhat of a "freak" accident with a door in a hotel in New Orleans.

At the time when I first took Tramadol, I think I had little communication with the family doctor, so I probably didn't convey to him that I was on wellbutrin (my bad).

But now that I think about it, I remember being concerned about any possible drug interactions - I was being prescribed a variety of medications for depression, rosacea, pain, intermittent infections.

After some time, I did my own little research and discovered the seizure potential with both wellbutrin and Tramadol... it did make me more cautious.

Anyway, enough rambling. Fortunately, I have never had a seizure. I was curious, however, whether anybody else had experienced the obnoxious stuttering that I mentioned.

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