Hey, what about none of the above?

And what do you mean by a "chemists own pain tablets"??

I would choose what I have already on my dresser than any of your options. Or is this supposed to be if we don't have anything else?
Yes I am nit picking

Well, if I was a Chemist and had every chemical known to a druggist . . . .

I would start off with a witch’s caldron. Big enough to make 10 million doses (I would imagine that should last me my entire life [or at least what’s left of it]). Each dose would consist of OxyCodone IR, 40 milligrams; Valium, 20 milligrams; Methaqualone 300 milligrams in a nice tasty syrup. All the ingredient I listed would take one shot glass to equal a dose.

I’d be out of my pain and misery and comfy enough to watch Judge Judy. I wish I would have gone to pharmacy school. I would have made a great pharmacist!

Ahhhh, just to dream . . . . . .

If I were a chemist I'd make carfentanyl , just add a WHOLE lot of lactose to it. Here's the WiKi on it:


Carfentanil or Carfentanyl (R33799) is an analogue of the popular synthetic opioid analgesic fentanyl, and is one of the most potent opioids known (also the most potent opioid used commercially). Carfentanil was discovered by Janssen Pharmaceutica. It has a quantitative potency approximately 10,000 times that of morphine and 100 times that of fentanyl, activity in humans starting at about 1 μg. It is marketed under the trade name Wildnil as a tranquilizer for large animals.[1] Carfentanil is intended for animal use only as its extreme potency makes it inappropriate for use in humans.


Think about it, 1 mg to 9,999 mg of lactose to make 1 mg morphine equivalent. Some VERY powerful stuff.

There's hardly any difference between the 1st 2 (2mg codeine). It's a good idea for a survey, just a bit strange that the 1st 3 choices are low-dose codeine/non-narcotic combinations and then comes a powerful opioid agonist/antagonist.

I feel that codeine doesn't really have any noticeable analgesic effect until it reaches 30-60mg, so it would have to be the buprenorphine.

The hard to find stuff still works the best, for the most part - hydrocodone. 10/325.

On a really bad day, not much of anything works.

60 mgs. codeine works fair.

Of course I'm talking daily, decades long, unrelenting pain, with now a high tolerance for meds.

I think I might take the chemist's own choice as it is probably something pretty good!!!

Fentanyl works great but I don't like the side effects, doggone it. Pain clinic had given it to me, when I had to go there for almost a year. What a pain (pun intended) that was. But they were very good, very nice, and not afraid to prescribe AT ALL!!!

Chemist's Own are codeine/APAP 10/500mg.

For me, I'd take 2 T3's over a Norco 10/325 any day. I know they're supposed to be equal- I use that term loosely. 60mg's Codeine, relieves my pain better but constipates and make me much more nauseous. I've had hydromorphone, morphine, fentanyl, oxycodone, hydrocodone, dihydrocodeine, methadone and codeine-All US, good brands BTW, except the dihydro., obviously. Hydro would be my first choice, in doses above 20mg's, 90% of the time, I'm in pain.


The items in the poll aren't even pain relievers, in my book.

Whats on your dresser ? ?

Chemist's own recipe!!! I have never had the "Magic Pill", it would be nice to feel normal for one day!!!
Msnini

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"So much pain,so much time."

30-60mg??
well, my tolerance must be way up - 400mg between Codeisan & Perduretas is just cutting it for me. [censored] the DEA and its war on doctors and CP patients. Dilaudid would handle me just fine but nooooo I have to go overseas to get the best they can send---codeine!!!

my cat's pajamas

He wears PJ's????

Bizarre.

^^^^really nep? thanks for the info!!

Not much of a choice in the poll; the only really effective one listed is Temgesic (buprenorphine 0,2mg).
I use OxyContin, so would probably have had that at the top of the poll. They are, in conjunction with diclofenac, an NSAID, the best med I have ever been prescribed for my arthritis.
And what is 'Chemist's Own Brand'? Aspirin? Ibuprofen? Paraceamol? Compounded dihydrocodeine or codeine? Because you simply can not get a really effective analgesic OTC at a chemist anywhere in the Western world.

None of the above either. probably take a chance on the chemist..lol

temgesic is good for the right purpose. I found it helpful after being on suboxone for a few days. If you plan on using temgesic to replace a 300mg of oxy a day habit, you will need close to a 200-300 of the .2mg to detox off the oxy. I am guessing of course about the amount of the temgesics, but I know it would take alot.

Percodan Endo 33?
and Demerol Wyeth?

Nice choice..

I have no idea how to vote on that. Is that a UK list?

Dilaudid !! Nothing like it.

love the resurrection of threads from july of '07 ......it's funny to read the responses... still valid though

Yes I experimented with those when my mom died
of throat cancer. Seemed like an odd name
so I was curious to experiment/sample..
Knocked me down for a whole day with little remembrance.
Will not experiment again but those were the days of the 80's
w/o internet so you couldn't look up the med on google
to see what in fact they were.Wish I had!!

"Chemist's Own" is a brand name down in AU. They make most of those. I've seen them on IOP sites.
No experience though.

patient2all

Choice #1 one tab US Endo Percodan (oxycodone + aspirin) +
one capsule Swiss Toquilone compositum (methaqualone)
Choice #2 one tab (former US) Doridan (500 mg. Glutethimide)+ US Tylenol #4 (60 mg. codiene + 325 mg. Acetaminophen)
Choice #3 US Demerol Hydrochloride (meperidine) 50 mg. I.M.
(Smart Pack Injection System) + US Roche Valium Injectable (2 mL=10mg. (Tel-E-Ject) I.M.

Yes, it is a strange list. Personally, there are days when I hurt so bad I wish I could just hook up an IV and medication pump full of morphine and valium. I have been given this combo a few times after I had surgery and I didn't have a care in the world.

I'd just prefer an oxy 40 with some promethazine. Makes it last longer. Some say benadryl does the trick also

Hi,

Chemist's Own is a UK otc brand name

I've found that by rotating what I take for pain, and only taking what I truly NEED I can manage tolerace.

for example given say... Soma, Hydro, Valium, Codeine to choose from I can more or less use the Soma and Valium interchangeably... almost (depends on the nature of the tension etc)... and codeine and hydro hit SLIGHTLY different combinations of receptors I think (they FEEL different at "equivalent" doses)... so I try not to do the same things 2 days in a row.

but yea on bad days/nights... I can relate... you take them all and hope for relief.

I think Chemist's Own is Australian; the UK doesn't have that brand.

It is Australian, I've bought it before.

Oxies for sure. nothing like the lovely bitterness of an 80. But then again, that probably why I'm on 110mg of meth Hate the liquid handcuffs, lol.

Only because I have no idea what the others are.

This poll was a little strange I like you idea Genethebean works the best for me in the er as well good old meds.

TM

I'd go for Dilaudid, Percodan or Jurnista.

OC40mg 10/325 norco

Ibuprofen

Isn't that what they call as a "cocktail" they give you before surgery? They did it to me and then after that I didn't care what they did.

Yeah, I like the none of the above option. Can you add that to the poll?
Not sure what Id do if thats all I had to choose from.

I didn't vote. Same reason "None of the Above"

same as me

Whatever they make in that "Cocktail" in the hospital is my choice. You don't care about anything. I even think I said "GO AHEAD, CUT IT OUT, I DON'T CARE".

They call it a 'pre-med' over here, often given the night before the op or in the morning if the op is in the afternoon. But with the advancement of anaesthetics, they don't offer them routinely like they used to. Apart from the relief of anxiety, they can also reduce the amount of anaesthetics used.

Now they prefer to give lidocaine and midazolam in the theatre itself, followed by propofol.

In the past, I have had barbiturates and halothane for induction.

Levo-dromoron,oxycodone any dose without too much actaminaphen.Numorphan.Stadols not bad depending on the type of pain but no opiate buzz.Never had fentanyl but I'm sure it would be high on the list if not number one.Methodone also I thought was a great P.K.the first few weeks.

I take methadone and it is a good pain killer, but you do need a breakthrough med along with it.

Handfull of funny white pills say "Winthrop?"
Demerol I think. Then Dialudid sp?

Same, that is the new and old way of UK pre-surgery drugs. I use Midazolam 15mg alot, and i do not recommend others to do so as you will become Benzo immune.
I've used various other drugs to boost benzo's and replace them, Aurorix for example, you will know that Nephro.

RP

so which one

I don't know if you were asking a question about exactly what the white pills are or just answering the poll question. If the white pills have "score, 35" on one side or "score, 37" they are current Demerol either 50mg or 100mg.

If they actually say "Winthrop" rather than a W logo on the pill imprint, they are really old.
The company that manufactures this oral medication now is Sanofi-Aventis I believe. Don't know what ever became of Winthrop.

I didn't you know! I know that moclobemide (Manerix is the UK brand name) interacts with opioid analgesics (especially pethidine) but didn't know it affected benzodiazepines apart from diazepam and/or one or more of its metabolites, so thanks for the info.

Cimetidine inhibits metabolism of benzodiazepines, and yes, it's definitely worth mentioning to the anaesthetist that you have benzodiazepine tolerance prior to an operation, because they could use it to reduce the amount of maintenance anaesthetic, and nobody wants to wake up during an operation.

fentanyl or oxycodone.

I have a very painful urological disease, yet the urologist
I saw says he never gives pain medicine!"See your regular doctor".Problem is I lost my job, insurance and my doctor.I don't
want oxycodone do get high, just to stop the pain. I feel
if I seek out another GP, that I might appear to be a drug seeker.It's so frustrating. Half the MDs I have have spoken to,to matters worse have not even heard of my disease and the specialist for my problem, is Dr Laurence Levine of Chicago estimate up to 10% of men,mostly in their fifties get it and
it is a curse. Any suggestions would be appreciated,thanks.

This is what happens when DEA and Gov scares doctors into not giving out pain meds. Let the doctors do the "doctoring" there the ones who went to med school. My father lost his practice because the Gov thought his partner was giving out to much pain medicine. This is honest guy, who went to med school at Dartmouth, who is FARRR from a drug Dealer/Distributor.
Is the government gonna may for me and my sister's tuition? Nope and now my parents cant either. Thanks Big Brother.

Sorry to go off topic, but billy123 got me goin!

Now that I'm done ramblin I'd take a Norco 10/325 and a 10mg diazepam. Does the trick for my disc problem. If its a bad day x2 on the Norco.

Billy if your desperate you might have to go to an urgent care facility. They'll give you something for the pain. Big bill though