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#522943 - 06/18/07 08:07 PM Gador Alprazolam Potency??
oldlotrat Offline
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Just received some 2mg Gador Alprazolam "bars" last week and I'm almost thoroughly convinced that they are EXTREMELY weak or bunk altogether.

I haven't taken any benzos in weeks before trying these, and after taking 8mg tonight, I feel almost nothing.

I'm quite suprised, as most post I've read praised the Gadors as more potent that Upjohn!

All I know is that taking 2mg of generic US alprazolam throws me for a loop, while 8mg of these Gadors has had little to no affect on me at all.

Any thoughts? Thanks!

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#522945 - 06/18/07 08:17 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency??
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Sorry, but the only generic US-made alprazolam I have EVER had that was any good at all was Greenstone 1mg. The best alp in the world is without a shadow of a doubt Gador's 2mg Alplax. You do not say who you bought them from; my supplier sends the freshest and strongest I have ever consumed. The only brand that comes close in quality is Galenika's 1mg KSALOL. The 'bunk' is Bago's 2mg Tranquinal bars. Now they are very poor indeed; you're better off buying the generic green ovals made in Argentina by Denver Pharma. They are better than any US alp and not all that far removed from the superb Alplax.
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#522946 - 06/18/07 08:41 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency??
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I took 8mg of gador alprozolam i sat on the couch and lost 3 hours of time. You have to watch real gadors they are POTENT. Actually i forgot they were 2mg and not 1mg thats how i found my self in that situation. Seriously i sat on the couch around 7pm next thing i new the 10 oclock news was on.
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#522947 - 06/18/07 08:49 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency??
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Aren't you the one that took 6 mgs. a few nights ago with the same results?
Jesus, quit taking them. I'd hate for you to load up, then have a few in the batch actually work like they should!
Do they taste icky like alprazolam?

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#522948 - 06/18/07 09:03 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency??
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i heard it was the cold that ruined them

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#522949 - 06/18/07 09:51 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency??
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Gador Xanax are excellent in my opinion and up there with the Upjohn/Greenstone.

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#522950 - 06/18/07 09:55 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency??
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I dont like to post negatively but in this case I do have to agree with the original poster. I only on occassion take .5 to 1 mg for sleep once in a great while a .5 for panic attacks. But just received 30 gadors and have been breaking off chunks for the last 4 hours because I cant sleep and we have such an early morning. I am now up to 3.75 mg and still dont feel like how I remember gadors, they were the best I've ever had.This batch not so. So heat or cold whatever. Also I used a different vendor than Ive used too. Ecp was 8/09 so...dunno. I have low tolerance and would like to eliminate xanax from my life someday completely. So it was much money but its really hot here I can imagine its a suana in S. America. And Im not really complaing. I ordered they arrived in a timely fashion, discreet, thats what we pay for right? Todo's gadors was the last time I hadthem and 1/2 bar I would be drowsy within a 1/2 hr. and for anxiety or a panic attack, 1/4 bar was fine. These are also falling apart out of the blister pack. Im finally going to see a doc but not till mid July, lotta red tape for almost free medical care. I got to talk to a nurse practioner, told her a lot of things and I did tell her I was taking xanax occasionally and wanted to get off and she said we will discuss a taper or a transfer to klonipin. No, she doesnt know HOW I got them,but she sounded understanding and told me I was at a good point and it shouldnt be too difficult but also actually said I might need an anti-anxiety med but she would rather prescribe klonipin. So until mid July these gadors hopefully will hold out. Im just tired of NROPS, IOPs, prices, cc #. I want to walk in a pharmacy and write a check,be legal and go home. Sorry to ramble, see I dont ramble on xanax. I dont want to post where I got them cuz they are a good IOP but it wasnt todo my fave.

Thanks all for letting me ramble. And someone out there have sweet dreams,

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#522951 - 06/19/07 06:48 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency??
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The gadors i have are in blister packs, labeled gador 2mg on the back and say ALP on the bars.

I TOO find them to be very weak compared to any other 2mg brands that I have had in the past. I need to take at least 3 at a time to just get the affect that I get with just 1- 1 1/2 of another brand like purpac, upjohn, etc.

But once again.. Just my opinion, but i do agree with the original post.

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#522952 - 06/19/07 07:35 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency??
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I like Purepac Xanax as some of the best if not the best Xanax ever. I also have BRAND to compare it by, all stored properly.

I found Purepac to be the plain ol' best.
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#522953 - 06/19/07 09:41 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency??
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Purepac are good, but I've always thought the Alpax Gadors were the BEST!!! I love them!

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#522954 - 06/19/07 10:37 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency??
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Tolerance and other issues aside...
Real Alprax by Gador is good
Fake Alprax is not.
It is pretty clear that some of the people using resellers (sites that take your order and then forward the order to third parties) are sending their customer fake Alprax. There is a lot of fake Alprax in South America. Most is made in Paraguay and shipped to crooks in Argentina...

Why use a reseller, pay more & risk more, that will send your order to whomever charges less and has not control over things... when you can use a site with a reputation?

We list two, or three, sites that offer quality Argentinian meds and a discount for VIP's.

This thread is not to discuss vendors... but if your meds are weak... please post how you got them in the proper vendor / pharmacy threads...

Thank you for your support.
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#522955 - 06/19/07 03:10 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency??
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Yes, they taste bad and I don't think they're fake altogether, but they are definitely weak

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#522956 - 06/19/07 03:23 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency??
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I have ordered the 2mg Gador's from a Argentinian site, not in blister packs (which I prefer, due to customs problems) and they are indeed high quality. And I got the discount... no problemo!

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We list two, or three, sites that offer quality Argentinian meds and a discount for VIP's.



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#522957 - 06/19/07 08:14 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency??
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Where are you buying this weak Gador Alrpazolam.?? Because I just placed an order with Todo...and don't want to waste my money on weak fake pills.

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#522958 - 06/19/07 08:23 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency??
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can anybody tell me where to get purepac? they seem like the hardest to trck down...

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#522959 - 06/19/07 09:42 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency??
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can anybody tell me where to get purepac? they seem like the hardest to trck down...





You can only get Purepac through and ROP.

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#522960 - 06/20/07 01:53 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency??
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If purepac are the yellow ones, it will be a rarity to find them unless you go to your Walgreens, CVS & such. I had a friend get purepacs from an NROP at least 2-3 yrs ago and have never heard anyone mention them since.

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#522961 - 06/21/07 07:44 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency??
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As per my previous post, I hate to tell you "I told you so". These "gadors" MUST somehow be not real. Like I said in my post I have had the best results with purpac and now I can see that many people are agreeing with me.

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#522962 - 06/21/07 07:53 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency??
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can anybody tell me where to get purepac? they seem like the hardest to trck down...




Walgreens! You'll never find Purepac on the blackmarket. Their entire stock goes to big chain stores. If you find it listed on a website, you won't get the REAL thing.

Purepac is my favorite manufacturer after the brand name. It's so pure and strong. Prefer 2 mg Bars that can be broken into 4 smaller pieces like most bars.
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#522963 - 06/21/07 07:04 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency??
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UPDATE

Just for comparison, I took 3 1mg generic Teva Clonazepam (green in color) last night and I literally could not keep my eyes open. I was sleeping like a baby within 45 minutes.

So, if alprazolam and clonazepam are supposed to be basically the same strength mg for mg, how can I take 10mg of Gador Alprax and still feel anxious??

So, maybe real gadors are the bomb, but whatever I got was definitely bunk. I flushed the remaing 40 bars down the toilet

I emailed Todo again, but no response yet.

So, basically, I got ripped off.

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#522964 - 06/21/07 07:38 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency??
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Sorry:( I took one of the 2mg alprax a few hours ago after work and just woke up. It knocked me on my butt. So far my experience with Todo has been great. Maybe there are some "bad" ones out there. Hang in there;)

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#522965 - 06/21/07 07:40 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency??
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Oh, and I forgot to tell you guys. I slipped 1 in my friends beer. He has never had anything except valium. Within an hour he was out cold. But very mad at me:) I used him as my guinnea pig.

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#522966 - 06/21/07 07:49 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency??
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The Gandor 2 mg. Bars are excellent and always have been. Gandor is not a fly by outfit. They have been making quality stuuf for a long time. In my humble opnion they beat the Upjohn stuff hands down. Their generic Ambien (gandor) is excellent also. I realy wouldn't repeat that trick with the 10 mg of Gandors I have seen people fall out and go into seizure right after they wake up. To be honest I don't think they took 10 mg of Xanax. Xanax is so short acting it packs a punch in the short term. But does not last. With a half life of 1 1/2 to 2 hrs. That's about one panic attacks worth.

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#522967 - 06/21/07 08:50 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency??
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Oh, and I forgot to tell you guys. I slipped 1 in my friends beer. He has never had anything except valium. Within an hour he was out cold. But very mad at me:) I used him as my guinnea pig.




Are you kidding me??? You did this to another person??? This si illegal you know. You had no idea what effects this could have had on him or what other meds he was taking. I bet he was pissed, I would be too if a "friend" put something in my drink, and I've been a bartender for 12 years working my way through to my Masters in Nursing and this is something that we watch out for closely.
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#522968 - 06/21/07 10:12 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency??
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Quote:

Quote:

Oh, and I forgot to tell you guys. I slipped 1 in my friends beer. He has never had anything except valium. Within an hour he was out cold. But very mad at me:) I used him as my guinnea pig.




Are you kidding me??? You did this to another person??? This si illegal you know. You had no idea what effects this could have had on him or what other meds he was taking. I bet he was pissed, I would be too if a "friend" put something in my drink, and I've been a bartender for 12 years working my way through to my Masters in Nursing and this is something that we watch out for closely.




I have to tag team with my friend above...

That was not a smart thing to do at all... It would not have been too "funny" had your friend not awaken after such a stunt. I am sure his family would not have found much humor it it at all.

Please take the good advice from my nurse friend above. It is very solid and wise advice to you.

Xanax is nothing to play with and definitely nothing to be mixing concoctions with alcohol or other drugs.

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#522969 - 06/21/07 10:32 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency??
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Quote:

Quote:

Oh, and I forgot to tell you guys. I slipped 1 in my friends beer. He has never had anything except valium. Within an hour he was out cold. But very mad at me:) I used him as my guinnea pig.




Are you kidding me??? You did this to another person??? This si illegal you know. You had no idea what effects this could have had on him or what other meds he was taking. I bet he was pissed, I would be too if a "friend" put something in my drink, and I've been a bartender for 12 years working my way through to my Masters in Nursing and this is something that we watch out for closely.


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I don't have to be a nurse to know that slipping something in someones drink especially a beer, could have caused serious results.
Not a good thing and I wouldn't brag with a grin, kid,or even admit that i did that.
Sorry for the opinion, but I feel like speaking up,this is dangerous.
Yes I would be more than mad if someone took it upon themselves to slip me a mickey so to speak.
Dangerous.And everyone has a different system.
Sure hope he doesn't get sick!!!
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#522970 - 06/22/07 11:29 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency??
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I'm sorry I ticked off a lot of people. It wasn't my intent. My friend is also ok. He said he slept better than he ever had before. I also know that he doesn't take any other medications because I live with him . It isnt something that I would tell anyone else to do and I do also know that it is illegal. I just wanted to share my opinion about the potency of the alprax. They are real, don't take too many of them. My PC has had me on alprazolam since my mother passed and I know the effects. Everyone have a good day and I send much Aloha!!

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#522971 - 06/22/07 11:44 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency??
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Are you shipping beer? LMAO

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#522972 - 06/22/07 11:57 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency??
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You made me laugh:)! You don't want the beer from here. If anything, you would love our coffee!! On a softer note. This board has been great to me. I have learned so much and couldn't have made it through my moms passing without the support and information from the kind , and yes sometimes brutal:) people on this board. Thanks to everyone and if you want coffee let me know!
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#522973 - 06/22/07 12:14 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency??
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Good, that was the intent.

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#522974 - 06/22/07 07:31 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency??
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Quote:

I'm sorry I ticked off a lot of people. It wasn't my intent. My friend is also ok. He said he slept better than he ever had before. I also know that he doesn't take any other medications because I live with him . It isnt something that I would tell anyone else to do and I do also know that it is illegal. I just wanted to share my opinion about the potency of the alprax. They are real, don't take too many of them. My PC has had me on alprazolam since my mother passed and I know the effects. Everyone have a good day and I send much Aloha!!




It's all good here... I just want everyone safe and happy. Your post scared me a little.

As far as coffee...

Never had it from HI but just returned from Jamaica and the coffee there was AWESOME.

There were... uhhhhmmm.. many AWESOME things to experience in Jamaica.

If anyone is in search of an AWESOME experience... check out Negril, Jamaica. You will have a pain free and very relaxing vacation.

I love coffee... it is my main addiction in life.

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#585147 - 10/21/07 10:00 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: Administrator]
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 Originally Posted By: Administrator
Tolerance and other issues aside...
Real Alprax by Gador is good
Fake Alprax is not.
It is pretty clear that some of the people using resellers (sites that take your order and then forward the order to third parties) are sending their customer fake Alprax. There is a lot of fake Alprax in South America. Most is made in Paraguay and shipped to crooks in Argentina...

Why use a reseller, pay more & risk more, that will send your order to whomever charges less and has not control over things... when you can use a site with a reputation?

We list two, or three, sites that offer quality Argentinian meds and a discount for VIP's.

This thread is not to discuss vendors... but if your meds are weak... please post how you got them in the proper vendor / pharmacy threads...

Thank you for your support.


I think you're mixing up your brands here; ALPRAX is an Indian brand and not all that potent at all. I think you meant ALPLAX, which is Gador's brand, and possibly the finest alprazolam you can buy.
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#585155 - 10/21/07 10:32 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: castlecrazy]
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 Originally Posted By: castlecrazy
 Originally Posted By: Administrator
Tolerance and other issues aside...
Real Alprax by Gador is good
Fake Alprax is not.
It is pretty clear that some of the people using resellers (sites that take your order and then forward the order to third parties) are sending their customer fake Alprax. There is a lot of fake Alprax in South America. Most is made in Paraguay and shipped to crooks in Argentina...

Why use a reseller, pay more & risk more, that will send your order to whomever charges less and has not control over things... when you can use a site with a reputation?

We list two, or three, sites that offer quality Argentinian meds and a discount for VIP's.

This thread is not to discuss vendors... but if your meds are weak... please post how you got them in the proper vendor / pharmacy threads...

Thank you for your support.


I think you're mixing up your brands here; ALPRAX is an Indian brand and not all that potent at all. I think you meant ALPLAX, which is Gador's brand, and possibly the finest alprazolam you can buy.


Isn't it ALPAX? (4 the Gadors)
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#603855 - 11/23/07 09:52 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: oldlotrat]
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 Originally Posted By: oldlotrat
UPDATE

Just for comparison, I took 3 1mg generic Teva Clonazepam (green in color) last night and I literally could not keep my eyes open. I was sleeping like a baby within 45 minutes.

So, if alprazolam and clonazepam are supposed to be basically the same strength mg for mg, how can I take 10mg of Gador Alprax and still feel anxious??

So, maybe real gadors are the bomb, but whatever I got was definitely bunk. I flushed the remaing 40 bars down the toilet <img src="/freeboard/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

I emailed Todo again, but no response yet.

So, basically, I got ripped off.


Yep, some bad or fake gadors were circulating in Argentina around this time because I received 2mg Gadors from CAM that were bunk, and I mean total [censored]. 10 mg didn't even knock me out, but I received my order of Gadors from ToDo a day or two later, and those were awesome in quality.

SO SOME BUNK GADORS WERE BEING CIRCULATED TO BOTH TODO AND CAM, AND UP UNTIL NOW, I COULD NOT UNDERSTAND WHY I WAS THE ONLY ONE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE LOW QUALITY OF THE GADORS I RECEIVED FROM CAM. FROM WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING, THE ABOVE POSTER RECEIVED BUNK FROM TODO AROUND THE SAME TIME I RECEIVED BUNK FROM CAM, BUT MY TODO ORDER WAS SUPREME, SO BOTH PLACES HAD SOME BUNK GADORS IN STOCK.

ANY CHANCE THAT YOU STILL HAVE THE FOIL WITH THE LOT #'S AND EXP DATE ON THEM? MAYBE WE CAN COMPARE OUR LOT #'S, AS I STILL HAVE MOST OF THE GADORS I RECEIVED FROM CAM AS I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL IS IN THEM.

I MIGHT CONSIDER PLACING A 2ND ORDER WITH CAM SINCE IT'S CLEAR NOW THAT FAKE OR WEAK GADORS WERE RECEIVED BY SOME OTHER PEOPLE FROM ARGENTINA AROUND THE SAME TIME I DID. TODO IS TOO FREAKIN EXPENSIVE IMHO.

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#603877 - 11/23/07 10:59 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: funkybreakz]
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 Originally Posted By: funkybreakz
 Originally Posted By: castlecrazy
 Originally Posted By: Administrator
Tolerance and other issues aside...
Real Alprax by Gador is good
Fake Alprax is not.
It is pretty clear that some of the people using resellers (sites that take your order and then forward the order to third parties) are sending their customer fake Alprax. There is a lot of fake Alprax in South America. Most is made in Paraguay and shipped to crooks in Argentina...

Why use a reseller, pay more & risk more, that will send your order to whomever charges less and has not control over things... when you can use a site with a reputation?

We list two, or three, sites that offer quality Argentinian meds and a discount for VIP's.

This thread is not to discuss vendors... but if your meds are weak... please post how you got them in the proper vendor / pharmacy threads...

Thank you for your support.


I think you're mixing up your brands here; ALPRAX is an Indian brand and not all that potent at all. I think you meant ALPLAX, which is Gador's brand, and possibly the finest alprazolam you can buy.


Isn't it ALPAX? (4 the Gadors)


it is ALPLAX... sorry

nevermind... call me embarrassed. shows how much i order from iop's
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#605493 - 11/27/07 08:16 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: oldlotrat]
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I to recieved the alplax Gador 2mg alprozolam bars and can definately say they are not as potent to what i'am used to.Obviously thee are diferrent effects on different people,i can take 5-6 2mg bars and just start to feel my anxiety lessen,and this without having the meds for over two weeks so i know it's not a tolerance issue.
Best of luck;]

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#605535 - 11/27/07 09:36 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: jon2112]
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the ones i just got from todo are very potent.both 1mg and the 2mg..i can feel it working withen 20 to 30 minutes.. do have a high tolerence i have been taking anxiety meds for ten yrs or more..i take 2mgs aday(in the late evening) and it keeps my anxiety level and panic attacks from happening for the whole next day..just my opinion on how "todo" gadors efffect me..angleica..


Edited by ANGELICA2 (11/27/07 09:38 AM)

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#605865 - 11/27/07 04:29 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: ANGELICA2]
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The Gadors I got from TODO were [censored] which surprised me since I saw so much positive feedback on how strong they were.

Currently I have some Gadors, some generic blue footballs from my doctor, and a ton of "ksalol" generics from Serbia.

The Ksalols blow the other two out of the water and they dissolve in your mouth extremely easy and come on really fast and strong. If you can find them, get them. You won't be disappointed. My only complaint is that its hard to break them in half.

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#606345 - 11/28/07 01:16 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: hmmmmk]
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Mind sharing the address of your source?
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#606624 - 11/29/07 05:22 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: mozartkc]
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 Originally Posted By: mozartkc
Oh, and I forgot to tell you guys. I slipped 1 in my friends beer. He has never had anything except valium. Within an hour he was out cold. But very mad at me:) I used him as my guinnea pig.


Be careful doing that. I have taken Xanax for 14+ years and drinking alcohol with them is NOT a good idea. If I plan on having a couple of drinks (which is very rare) I purposely don't take any Xanax for at least 6 hours before I drink. Mixing Xanax and alcohol is a deadly combination. My doctor has questioned me time and time again about drinking. I guess I am one of the few people who really don't like drinking all that much. My doctor actually apologized but said he had to make sure. I need my meds too much to start playing russian roulette and I know if I ended up in the hospital because I drank while taking Xanax I'd never find a doctor to prescribe them again. And if you have never taken them and someone puts them in your drink, you'll be lucky if you don't end up in the hospital. They suppress your breathing, just like alcohol and the two together is a disater waiting to happen.

Sorry not trying to lecture you but I hope no one else uses a "friend" as a guinea pig. Being in jail for 20+ years because I killed someone, is not my idea of a good time.

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#606647 - 11/29/07 06:24 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: stressedout]
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 Originally Posted By: stressedout
 Originally Posted By: mozartkc
Oh, and I forgot to tell you guys. I slipped 1 in my friends beer. He has never had anything except valium. Within an hour he was out cold. But very mad at me:) I used him as my guinnea pig.


Be careful doing that. I have taken Xanax for 14+ years and drinking alcohol with them is NOT a good idea. If I plan on having a couple of drinks (which is very rare) I purposely don't take any Xanax for at least 6 hours before I drink. Mixing Xanax and alcohol is a deadly combination. My doctor has questioned me time and time again about drinking. I guess I am one of the few people who really don't like drinking all that much. My doctor actually apologized but said he had to make sure. I need my meds too much to start playing russian roulette and I know if I ended up in the hospital because I drank while taking Xanax I'd never find a doctor to prescribe them again. And if you have never taken them and someone puts them in your drink, you'll be lucky if you don't end up in the hospital. They suppress your breathing, just like alcohol and the two together is a disater waiting to happen.

Sorry not trying to lecture you but I hope no one else uses a "friend" as a guinea pig. Being in jail for 20+ years because I killed someone, is not my idea of a good time.



I agree 100% and then some

What if your friend was driving! And for someone who had never had xanax and had at least one beer (the one you laced), He could have killed someone.

I am sorry but that is just not funny. PLEASE learn from your mistake, and never do anything like that again.

You are lucky nothing serious happened. Stupidity sucks!
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#606755 - 11/29/07 10:42 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: greyman]
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um, yeah, giving someone any drug without their explicit consent is totally unethical, in my opinion, nevermind the legality of it. People have a right to know what they are putting in their body and when. If I were your friend I'd be looking for a new apartment.

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#606760 - 11/29/07 11:00 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: firesky99]
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I will bear the burden of the world.

Send me all your gator bars and you will be safe from them.

I will send out cookies to keep you calm and you anxiety away
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#606900 - 11/29/07 04:44 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: BronxMan]
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 Originally Posted By: BronxMan
I will bear the burden of the world.

Send me all your gator bars and you will be safe from them.

I will send out cookies to keep you calm and you anxiety away


wierd you'd make a joke about it

here comes a bunkload of gators back at ya

have fun!

don't slip me a mickey, though, I have a license to kill once you do that.

stupidity sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#606904 - 11/29/07 04:48 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: BronxMan]
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 Originally Posted By: BronxMan
I will bear the burden of the world.

Send me all your gator bars and you will be safe from them.

I will send out cookies to keep you calm and you anxiety away


you don't sound like a pooh bah,
just an insensitve, uncaring, egotistical fool

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#607133 - 11/30/07 07:28 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: greyman]
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 Originally Posted By: greyman
 Originally Posted By: BronxMan
I will bear the burden of the world.

Send me all your gator bars and you will be safe from them.

I will send out cookies to keep you calm and you anxiety away


you don't sound like a pooh bah,
just an insensitve, uncaring, egotistical fool

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I think the poster was joking? Trying to lighten things up a bit I a sure. Of all the posts I've read from bronxman he/she has never come across as being uncaring. I'm not sticking up for this poster, I have noticed he/she can do a good job without my help.

Sorry no disrepect towards you. It is easy to misinterpret other peoples intentions when reading a post (and I am not saying you misintrepreted anything, please don't get me wrong). A big part of communication is body language which we miss via posts (although the emoticons attempt to offset that lack of body language, for example a laughing icon when someone is joking or thinks something is funny, rather then seeing them smile or hearing them laugh)

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#607254 - 11/30/07 10:29 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: stressedout]
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Totally agree, Stressed! Thank you for the insight.

Bronxman, I sincerely apologize to you for my "off the cuff" remark, when it appears obvious to me now you were just trying lighten things up!

We all need to laugh!!!!

Again, sorry..............................................

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#609145 - 12/04/07 05:59 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: greyman]
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All I have to say is "WOW" . I can't believe that people are still gossiping about the post I made June 21st. That has been 6 months now and if everyone reads the 3rd page you will also see that I apologized and knew that I was in the wrong. My only intent was to give my opinion on the quality of the meds from Todo. My partner is still very much alive and I haven't done anything like that again. I have in fact quit drinking, gotten off the SSRI's(they are evil), and been seeing a wonderful psychiatrist. Everyone have a great anxiety free holiday!
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#674132 - 03/26/08 11:49 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: mozartkc]
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I see this thread is kinda old but I recently ordered from Todo. I ordered the 2mg gators and I too feel they are VERY weak (I would use the word watered down) compared to that of what I get here in the US. The first night I needed to, I took half (Like i did with those from the US) it did absolutely nothing. I figured id try again tomorrow and the next night I took 2 (Which would be 4mg following what the label says) and only felt half of what I would have felt should I have taken a 2mg pill from the US.

I by no means take it regularly (Maybe 2 nights a week if even, to get to sleep) but have taken it enough times to know what its effect should be.

For those curious the order is from this month, shipped around march 3rd. Anyone else feel the same?


Edited by anxsis1 (03/26/08 11:59 PM)

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#676048 - 03/30/08 02:46 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: anxsis1]
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it may be your tolerance building, I have always found todos 2mg gadors good quality

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#676060 - 03/30/08 05:09 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: clarkey00]
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I find Todo's mixed. Sometimes they are useless, other times they are the best i ever had.

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#677137 - 03/31/08 10:20 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: clarkey00]
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 Originally Posted By: clarkey00
it may be your tolerance building, I have always found todos 2mg gadors good quality


I thought that myself but i seldom take it. maybe once or twice a week when i get night time anxiety. I even tried not taking any at all for about two weeks to see if it was that. A few people on the todo forums are coming forward stating along the lines of what the above poster just said. its a shot in the dark with their quality.

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#715725 - 06/17/08 07:36 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: Hegenbart5]
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You could not have "just placed an order with Todo" since they are closed.

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#720610 - 06/28/08 12:17 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: medsinaz]
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Who makes the yellow alprazolam 2mg bar tablets?
Are the tranquinal bago 2mg tabs as good as the alplax gador?

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#720681 - 06/28/08 07:17 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: DubMD]
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 Originally Posted By: DubMD

Are the tranquinal bago 2mg tabs as good as the alplax gador?



It's up to YOU to decide which brand is more effective.
It's your body after all....







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#721357 - 06/29/08 04:16 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: DubMD]
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 Originally Posted By: DubMD
Who makes the yellow alprazolam 2mg bar tablets?
Are the tranquinal bago 2mg tabs as good as the alplax gador?

Ignore the post between ours from LW.
He can't order Gador in the UK so he doesn't know first hand.
I do know because my wife takes the yellow bars
but in smaler doses which are made by Purepack
Generic USA. I can't say first hand but after extensive research as a former Poohbah
the Bago's are very close to the Gador in quality.
And I have many Gadors left over from Todo.
They are very strong so I only need half a bar per day.
Happy ordering!

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#722967 - 07/02/08 08:04 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: ]
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mmmmm the 2mg yellow Purepac's. Still have a bottle in my cabinet of 90 of 'em (i used to get 90 a month, for about 5 years) and yes i know that is 3 a day! No I did not start out on that much, it took me about a year to build up to that. I actually was not knocked out by any means being on that much. At the time it took that much to keep my anxiety under control!!!! I got them filled through Walgreen's and have never found anything as good as 'em. just my 2 cents worth

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#723026 - 07/03/08 01:30 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: latus0514]
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It's really funny how we are all so much different. I think the world of the Gador Alplax but, don't really care for the Purepac's I used to get from my local Walgreens. My favorite US generic is Greenstone.
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#723112 - 07/03/08 08:27 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: Bryan72577]
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Greenstone is actually owned by Purepac...

that is why so many like the greenstone generic so much.
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#723196 - 07/03/08 10:42 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: funkybreakz]
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Well that's funny then isn't it lol. Maybe it's all mental \:\)

I did not like the Purepac but, did like the GG's lol.
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#723198 - 07/03/08 10:44 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: Bryan72577]
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This link says that Greenstone is owned by Pfizer. Is Purepac owned by Pfizer too?

https://www.greenstonellc.com/greenstone/html/greenstone/pressreleases.htm
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#726203 - 07/10/08 01:55 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: funkybreakz]
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 Originally Posted By: funkybreakz
Greenstone is actually owned by Purepac...

that is why so many like the greenstone generic so much.



Greenstone is Pfizer/Upjohn generic.....

Purepac is Actavis

Definitely not the same companies and a different product altogether imho, with all the lawsuits they have been filing against eachother I certainly hope thats not done in house :P


And I completely agree with Bryan, The greenstone is the best US generic around. My scripted fav!!!
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#726483 - 07/10/08 01:56 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: NOTCHTOP]
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i can vouch for both alprax and alpax \:D

as everyone stated quality gadors are by far the best alprazolam i've had to date \:\) alprax also isn't bad... they are no gadors tho!


Edited by grow4 (07/10/08 01:57 PM)
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#726655 - 07/10/08 08:08 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: grow4]
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Gador Pharmaceuticals S.A. Darwin 429 C1414CUI
Buenos Aires Argentina is the most reputable
ethical drug manufacturer in all of Latin America.
Their Alprazolam "Alplax" and their Zolpidem
"Somit" are the absolute best quality in the world.
I have received over twenty (20) orders of the
latter (Zolpidem 10 mg. "Somit") and have compared
them side by side with the USA brick & mortar
branded Sanofi "Ambien" and there is no difference
in quality. This comparison has been made for the
past 24 months non-stop, with the Gadors all
coming from Buenos Aires Argentina (IOP Source)
Ditto for the alprazolam......however.....most
unfortunately.....apparently counterfeit Gador
alprazolam has surfaced in S.A. apparently from
Paraguay and has made the water muddy with a
a few DB members. The counterfeiting is getting
so high tech it borders the fantastic, especially
from Communist China & Belize with other meds, getting
extravagent with expensive pill pressing machines,
and the advanced technology to blister pack the
meds, including authentic color packaging/Exp dates.
This degree of covert deception has only surfaced in
the past 2 or 3 years. Fake/diluted pills were abundant
in 1980's (from South America) ie Quaaludes.....but
the crooks have taken it to another level. It is
truly disgusting. Harm Reduction Labs charge $120.00
US per tablet for a lab analysis....who can afford
that these days? (www.estacydata.org) D.D.L. 9700
Business Park Drive, Suite 407, Sacramento CA 95827.
Twenty five years ago PharmChem Labs of Menlo Park Ca
would lab test a pill for only $10.00. each, thats a
increase of over 1000%!!!


Edited by Ludes_Vet (07/10/08 08:13 PM)

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#726678 - 07/10/08 08:59 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: NOTCHTOP]
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Detailed Greenstone Ltd Company Profile
This company profile is for the private company Greenstone Ltd, located in Peapack, NJ. Greenstone Ltd's line of business is whol generic prescription drugs.

Company Profile: Greenstone Ltd


Year Started:1994
State of Incorporation:N/A
URL: Activate Links http://www.pharmaciaupjohn.com
Location Type:Single Location
Parent Companies: Pharmacia & Upjohn, Inc , Pfizer Inc
Stock Symbol:N/A
Stock Exchange:N/A
Also Does Business As:N/A
NAICS:N/A

i stand corrected... i think i meant to type upjohn...

and to stay on topic, i have always read about the quality of alplax here, so there must be some weak or bunk batches floating around out there.


Edited by funkybreakz (07/10/08 09:07 PM)
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#745513 - 08/12/08 03:18 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: Ludes_Vet]
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 Originally Posted By: Ludes_Vet
Gador Pharmaceuticals S.A. Darwin 429 C1414CUI
Buenos Aires Argentina is the most reputable
ethical drug manufacturer in all of Latin America.
Their Alprazolam "Alplax" and their Zolpidem
"Somit" are the absolute best quality in the world.
I have received over twenty (20) orders of the
latter (Zolpidem 10 mg. "Somit") and have compared
them side by side with the USA brick & mortar
branded Sanofi "Ambien" and there is no difference
in quality. This comparison has been made for the
past 24 months non-stop, with the Gadors all
coming from Buenos Aires Argentina (IOP Source)
Ditto for the alprazolam......however.....most
unfortunately.....apparently counterfeit Gador
alprazolam has surfaced in S.A. apparently from
Paraguay and has made the water muddy with a
a few DB members. The counterfeiting is getting
so high tech it borders the fantastic, especially
from Communist China & Belize with other meds, getting
extravagent with expensive pill pressing machines,
and the advanced technology to blister pack the
meds, including authentic color packaging/Exp dates.
This degree of covert deception has only surfaced in
the past 2 or 3 years. Fake/diluted pills were abundant
in 1980's (from South America) ie Quaaludes.....but
the crooks have taken it to another level. It is
truly disgusting. Harm Reduction Labs charge $120.00
US per tablet for a lab analysis....who can afford
that these days? (www.estacydata.org) D.D.L. 9700
Business Park Drive, Suite 407, Sacramento CA 95827.
Twenty five years ago PharmChem Labs of Menlo Park Ca
would lab test a pill for only $10.00. each, thats a
increase of over 1000%!!!


This whole thread makes my head spin. Alplax (Gador) Alprax (India)- and does the India manufacture make the 2mg? The India manufacture only lists 1mg max. which could explain the weak pills. One way to do a simple test is with a benzo in home test kit which only costs a few bucks. Take the pill and test yourself in the bathroom during a #1 around 4-6 hours later. The strength will show as strong, medium, weak or none for the fakes. Don't drink grapefruit juice as it will change the results of the test for alprazolam. The only other test is the Gas Chromatography/mass spectrometry (GC/MS) which can pinpoint down to the manufacture for a price.

What's really disturbing is the fake ones. Weak can be due to improper storage at high and low temperatures, just like a skunked beer. The only way to get rid of the fakes is to turn the seller into the authorities.

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#939211 - 10/05/09 02:52 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: funhawaii1]
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what website do u go to to get the gadors 2mg

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#939618 - 10/05/09 09:43 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: kingcharles]
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Usually to find gadors you have to go to a website that is based out of Argentina. Personally, I like the Denver brand from Argentina, atleast you don't have to worry about thoose being fake or weak.

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#948828 - 10/25/09 02:46 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: oldlotrat]
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wondering where you guys get your xanax online?

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#948842 - 10/25/09 04:27 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: mattaz]
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i was happy with the gadors from pharmacityusa, but their shipping as been spotty which is why i started an order 3 weeks ago but waiting to see more consistency before ordering from them again, especially since they will not respond to your emails even when it's about clarification on the name they want you to send to. that's just bad business. i've never received a single email response from them. they will auto send order reminders, but never answer emails you send even if you're practically begging to give them your money. they've lost me for now. that could change if they do,, but the gadors were fine.

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#949111 - 10/25/09 11:02 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: zoomster]
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I've heard bad things about the Denvers.

the Alpax by Gador is just as good as the greenstone brand sticks and the yellow bars. they're all the same in my taste tests.
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#949620 - 10/27/09 12:01 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: DeeRock]
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I have been quite satisfied with the potency of Gador's 2mg bars that I ordered from Pharmacityusa. Just as strong as name-brand Xanax from what I can remember.

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#950158 - 10/27/09 11:26 PM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: Repteur]
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Originally Posted By: Repteur
I took 8mg of gador alprozolam i sat on the couch and lost 3 hours of time. <img src="/freeboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> You have to watch real gadors they are POTENT. Actually i forgot they were 2mg and not 1mg thats how i found my self in that situation. Seriously i sat on the couch around 7pm next thing i new the 10 oclock news was on.


You earned your title of "GRAND Poo Baah" that's an impressive dose and you only lost 3 hours of time? The next 12 or so were probably fuzzy too! It's the solution to world peace...
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#951892 - 10/30/09 10:36 AM Re: Gador Alprazolam Potency?? [Re: unabober]
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i've had gador; it doesn't seem any different to me than upjohn, greenstone, etc. etc. *shrug* i don't notice much difference in xanax strength.

hmmm. just thought of something. i only take them to stop panic attacks, and they do, so...? it's not the best way to test one brand against another. i don't take them when i'm okay (not having an attack). i use longer-acting benzos to prevent attacks. this might be why i can't tell the difference between brands of xanax....
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