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#497200 - 05/20/07 03:20 AM Re: biotran.co.uk *
trixbooch Offline
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I've gotten two envelopes in two weeks...I sent my payment.

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#497201 - 05/21/07 11:19 AM Re: biotran.co.uk
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The real problem is, at the rate they are trickling out orders, it is almost useless. What, are we going to get 3 or 4 orders a year now? Screw that.

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#497202 - 05/29/07 07:25 AM Re: biotran.co.uk
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For what it's worth, Codeisan is now listed as available on the Biotran website. Too bad for me, because I find it almost useless. Let's see if the Perds eventually come back as well.

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#497203 - 05/29/07 08:25 AM Re: biotran.co.uk
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Suggestions please. Long time Perds customer here. Have 3 outstanding orders from waaay back. From what everyone has said, filling in the 2nd choice box is useless. Why it's there is a mystery. I'll take the Codes until Perds come back. What do ya'll think I should do....send in another order with Codes as my first choice? I don't want to get on his bad side, ridiculous as I know that is. But since I was a Perds customer, I'm concerned about switching to Codes without "permission" if you get my drift.I'm glad others are receiving their orders. Love to know what happened with my three old ones Haven't bothered him at all cause I figured they'd show up eventually. Guess that's not gonna happen.

Should I just start over with the Codes or forget Biotran entirely? Thanks!
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#497204 - 05/29/07 08:57 AM Re: biotran.co.uk
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How old are your orders? I think when he gets stock he will ship them in the order he received them. It would be great if you could find another source with reasonable prices but I do not believe that they exist.
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#497205 - 05/29/07 10:37 AM Re: biotran.co.uk
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There are a few sources that offer both Codeisan and Perduretas and have them available and they are not more expensive. Am I the only one getting more effect on Codeisan? Ok, if I cross the perduretas but then the efect is so much shorter.

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#497206 - 05/29/07 11:24 AM Re: biotran.co.uk
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Hi Madxxx! To the best I can remember, two of the outstanding orders were mid-late Jan. Then I sent one more sometime in Feb I believe. I didn't know what was going on so I thought perhaps the previous orders went missing on either end and I didn't dare contact him. I've had so much to cope with the past few months that I didn't do my usual record keeping of dates and stuff. I just assumed he would send as he got supply but I think others have received after Bio should've gotten my orders, at least the Jan ones.

Yes, Perds do actually help me surprisingly enough where the 30 Hydro 5/500 my first PCP had rx'd me didn't do a thing. So this dry spell has been especially hard on me. I would've been happy with the Codes in the meantime but I don't understand why he doesn't send them as 2nd choice to the people who want them.

Oh gosh, I wish I could find another source for Perds. I'm afraid if one does pop up, the cost will be horrendous because they're a hot item apparently. For people like me, I'd never be able to afford more than Bio. Even that required alot of cutting corners but when you're in pain you get desperate and you just do without other things to be able to buy some relief. Definitely a long hard dry spell for this woman in pain
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#497207 - 05/29/07 11:49 AM Re: biotran.co.uk
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Maybe the previous poster will clue us in on the other places that sell perds as cheaply as biotran. Since that was his first post he can't PM and if he has found a good source I would not blame him for not wanting to throw it out there for everyone. Perds are in short supply. If anyone has them at a good price they will sell out fast.
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#497208 - 05/29/07 01:12 PM Re: biotran.co.uk
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Kiki, Can you take ibuprofen? If you can nurofen plus is avaiable from many sources at a reasonable price. Each tablet has 200 mg of ibuprofen and 12.8 mgs of codeine. It is not as good as Perds but if you can take the ibuprofen you can get some pain relief.
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#497209 - 05/29/07 02:44 PM Re: biotran.co.uk
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Yes Madxxx I do use Nurofen Plus and have for quite awhile to supplement the Perds when I had them. On days when the pain isn't as bad as others, I just use the Nurofen P and some Aleve which at a lower dose than Naprosyn isn't quite as harsh on my long suffering stomach. Unfortunately, as time goes by here my "less pain" days are becoming well, less, lol. I've really been hoping that Bio would come thru, at least once a month maybe but nope, nothing for a long time. It's the not knowing bit that is problematic for me. If I knew Bio was not ever going to return to normal, then I'd change my mindset and try to find something else. Don't know what the something else would be because Perds were the only thing that I could take a couple of, chomp 'em up and get a couple hours of decent pain relief. In fact I would schedule my day around those 2 hours and try to get most of the physical work done then. Needless to say, now I've had to slow way down and it's not fun. I'm sure any PCP could script me whatever Perds equivalent form of codeine we have in the US and I'd probably be able to work with that for awhile. But, it's just not happening.

Thank you for the suggestion though. I appreciate you trying to help me!
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#497210 - 05/29/07 08:03 PM Re: biotran.co.uk
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If you are in the US , How about a pain management doctor? There are many in the phonebook and will deal well with pain.. I used to get 45 rox 15 each two weeks with 60 Soma tablets. I went for MRI etc and doctor was kind to me .. dont waste your time with this losers psuedo business ... He ripped me off also ..

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#497211 - 05/30/07 03:14 AM Re: biotran.co.uk
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Yes John I'm in Florida. I wish it was so "easy" to get a doctor. My insurance company doesn't see it that way. Rather, Disney does not treat it's employees in the same manner their treat their guests. Anyone for a thread on Disney? Oh would I have alot to say because I know what goes on behind the "magic".

Anyhoo, I must first have a PCP attempt to treat me with a few months of Hydro I guess. This is where I am right now. Going to 3rd PCP in as many months, in June. They don't want to see me as soon as I pull out my MRI results.

If/when I find a PCP to try to help me, only then when I don't feel better, which I won't cause Hydro doesn't work for me, I have to get a written referral to a "specialist". I actually am not even sure the plan we have covers Pain Mgt. I do know they don't pay for what are considered "invasive treatment" meaning the steroid shots and such. I understand that if you go to Pain Mgt you must agree to have those things done so that leaves me out for many reasons. CIGNA makes it very clear in bold lettering what they don't cover and it's most of the "experimental" stuff like shots, nerve burns and other stuff that I'm not even familiar with.

Believe me this IOP stuff is fine for backup but to depend on? No, it's left me stranded and in major pain for months. I was a regular customer of Bio, never bothered him once so I have no idea why it seems he took the money and ran. At least send me the Codes ya know?
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#497212 - 05/31/07 01:54 PM Re: biotran.co.uk
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Suggestions please. Long time Perds customer here. Have 3 outstanding orders from waaay back. From what everyone has said, filling in the 2nd choice box is useless. Why it's there is a mystery. I'll take the Codes until Perds come back. What do ya'll think I should do....send in another order with Codes as my first choice? I don't want to get on his bad side, ridiculous as I know that is. But since I was a Perds customer, I'm concerned about switching to Codes without "permission" if you get my drift.I'm glad others are receiving their orders. Love to know what happened with my three old ones Haven't bothered him at all cause I figured they'd show up eventually. Guess that's not gonna happen.

Should I just start over with the Codes or forget Biotran entirely? Thanks!




Just send them an email stating what you've asked here. I see they have codes in stock right now, perhaps a nice email stating that you sent in for these orders thinking they'd be back in business in a few weeks and you're sorry etc but could they be so kind as to send some codes and you'd be willing to accept this medication just one time to help you thru. If they say call.. call them. If they say wait they'll be in stock soon.. my guess is they'll be in stock soon. I haven't given up yet.. I would if every other site was offering them. In the meantime I order from an online pharmacy site; 8 or 10 boxes of their OTC medicines with 12mg or so of codeine. It helps with the pain that I have.. It doesn't touch a tooth ache tho... I did have to call my dentist to get some hydro before & after the root canal I had.. now that that is all taken care of that is much better. lol just wish my surgeon was as considerate as my dentist.. Man if it's a pain to get Codeine in the US I pity the poor people who need Hydro.. jeez.

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#497213 - 05/31/07 02:05 PM Re: biotran.co.uk
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Today I received codeisan, I placed my order in late Jan. to early Feb.

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#497214 - 05/31/07 07:28 PM Re: biotran.co.uk
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Hang in there, your situation sounds exactly like mine, today I got my perds. Go figure


I must have 4 orders stacked, called, emailed and none seemed to speed things up so I would just sit tight.


He did say it annoyed him that people were ordering when the site said out of stock, I told him I thought the cash might help him in a tough time, still didn't seem to impress him or make him happy?

getting my perds made me happy...

How the heck there is NEVER a postmark on any of his shipments just confounds me. I get a ton of UK mail, all have a postmark. Which order was this? your guess is as good as mine...

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#497215 - 06/02/07 12:33 PM Re: biotran.co.uk
Spider666 Offline
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Kiki, Can you take ibuprofen? If you can nurofen plus is avaiable from many sources at a reasonable price. Each tablet has 200 mg of ibuprofen and 12.8 mgs of codeine. It is not as good as Perds but if you can take the ibuprofen you can get some pain relief.




Anyone tried Pharma Group recently? They are listing
Perds as of now -- $25 for 20 tabs, though.

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#497216 - 06/03/07 07:54 AM Re: biotran.co.uk
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He did say it annoyed him that people were ordering when the site said out of stock, I told him I thought the cash might help him in a tough time, still didn't seem to impress him or make him happy?




It's for that reason precisely that I have yet to send in my new order and payment for the Perds I finally received a while back. When the website no longer says "out of stock", I'll happily print out my order form and send in the bucks. But until then, I don't see the need to do anyone any favors. Clearly, gestures of good will or kindness are wasted on Bio.

I'd recommend anyone contemplating reordering Perds they received wait until the website is updated. Bio doesn't seem to be suitably grateful if you're nice enough to send in your money long before you'll likely see another package of Perds (and his established attitude and track record seem to testify to that, so I wouldn't bother trying to please this guy--he's all business, so sticking to the Rules is the best plan, in my opinion).

And I'll add that he'd best not be pissed that I haven't sent in an envelope stuffed with cash in a couple months, because I'm just sticking to HIS Rules--Perds out of stock, I can't reorder, so I'll hold my order, and my money, until they're back.

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#497217 - 06/03/07 08:02 AM Re: biotran.co.uk
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i agree.
the deal was, should i miss one month of ordering the 120, i would be back to 60.
but, as they are not available...
seems to me, it is gonna all be a new game now, so to speak.
some of us might retain "seniority," but i am not sure.

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#497218 - 06/05/07 07:27 AM Re: biotran.co.uk
Spider666 Offline
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Is there any reason to believe that the Perd situation at Biotran will ever be back to "normal?" If there is, I haven't heard about it. And yes, Biotran and the world "grateful" don't go together. Wayne is as spiky as they come.


Edited by Spider666 (06/05/07 07:28 AM)

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#497219 - 06/05/07 07:36 AM Re: biotran.co.uk
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No idea.. but their site is down today. So I'm not sure what is up with them. I am guessing it will not be.

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#497220 - 06/05/07 11:15 AM Re: biotran.co.uk
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No idea.. but their site is down today. So I'm not sure what is up with them. I am guessing it will not be.




Website is coming up just fine for me.
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#497221 - 06/05/07 11:32 AM Re: biotran.co.uk
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Quote:

Quote:

He did say it annoyed him that people were ordering when the site said out of stock, I told him I thought the cash might help him in a tough time, still didn't seem to impress him or make him happy?




It's for that reason precisely that I have yet to send in my new order and payment for the Perds I finally received a while back. When the website no longer says "out of stock", I'll happily print out my order form and send in the bucks. But until then, I don't see the need to do anyone any favors. Clearly, gestures of good will or kindness are wasted on Bio.

I'd recommend anyone contemplating reordering Perds they received wait until the website is updated...

...I'm just sticking to HIS Rules--Perds out of stock, I can't reorder, so I'll hold my order, and my money, until they're back.




I'm with you all the way. Back when his supply problem first started and DB still had Biotran threads for questions and feedback, Wanye made it perfectly clear he did not want anyone re-ordering (paying for orders received) until the website changed to show perduretas back in stock.

In the last communication I had with him via email he reiterated this position. He wrote:

"do not send any money until you see the stock sign back up on the web site"
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#497222 - 06/05/07 12:07 PM Re: biotran.co.uk
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The problem is that Wayne or Wanye or whatever didn't make this clear to everyone: if that's what he wanted, he should have made this clear on the Biotran web site. As usual, he just ended up confusing a lot of people, something he seems to get off on.

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#497223 - 06/05/07 11:27 PM Re: biotran.co.uk
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hey, i'm all about biotrans zopi...cheap and great (horrible taste in your mouth, thats how you know its real)...he's coming thru for me
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#497224 - 06/06/07 07:10 AM Re: biotran.co.uk
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I've gotten word from a European source that the Perduretas
supply is now back to normal. If that's true, we should be
seeing that reflected on Biotran's web page shortly.


Edited by Spider666 (06/06/07 07:10 AM)

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#497225 - 06/06/07 04:33 PM Re: biotran.co.uk
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I heard the same thing but the site still says out of stock.
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#497226 - 06/07/07 07:16 PM Re: biotran.co.uk
Spider666 Offline
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Quote:

I heard the same thing but the site still says out of stock.




Yeah. Maybe Bio isn't as connected as he was in the past.
We'll find out soon, I guess.

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#497227 - 06/12/07 03:07 AM Re: biotran.co.uk
pierce Offline
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When codeisan came in stock I asked to switch, but my only reply was "perduretas will be in stock soon". Still isn't in stock as far as I know but I got my perds in the mail yesterday. Four month turn around. That still sucks.

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#497228 - 06/12/07 05:18 PM Re: biotran.co.uk
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I also tried to "switch" to the Codeisan since it was in stock and the Perduretas was not. He just told me there could not be a switch, but that he would ship the Perds when available. Everybody talks some ugly words about Wayne, but he has ALWAYS come through for me. BTW I have used Biotran off and on for 10 (yes, ten, count em') years. If you do not like any IOP I say you should move on. No offense, anyone.
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#497229 - 06/12/07 07:49 PM Re: biotran.co.uk
patient54321 Offline
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'Twas one day this summer
and all through the pad,
my RLS was stirring
(I was feeling quite bad.)

My head shook like jello,
my feet hurt the most,
my shoulder was throbbing,
I needed a dose.

With no hope behind me
(all summer was dry)
I went to the mailbox
a tear in my eye.

Totally hopeless
not expecting a thing,
I opened the lid,
my eyes went "ka-ching!"

What I found waiting for me
wasn't really that odd,
my P's came from Bio,
(there must be a God!)

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