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#487764 - 04/12/07 04:39 AM Re: can take 10 2mg gators bars and get no effect
vandam Banned: "16 Xanax feel like speed to me" kind of posts Registered: 01/02/06 Posts: 64	Quote: Had to be a bad batch man. If you don't have a huge tolerance, that would have put you to sleep standing up. Insomniac Not really true. I used to get brandname bars was up to 16 a day, yes I know stupid. After a few days, you dont get that zig effect and for me after several bars it actually acts like speed, even with a 1/5 of alcohol. VanDam
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#487765 - 04/12/07 04:46 AM Re: can take 10 2mg gators bars and get no effect
insomniac73 Pooh-Bah Registered: 09/15/05 Posts: 1280 Loc: Southeast U.S.	Quote: Quote: Had to be a bad batch man. If you don't have a huge tolerance, that would have put you to sleep standing up. Insomniac Not really true. I used to get brandname bars was up to 16 a day, yes I know stupid. After a few days, you dont get that zig effect and for me after several bars it actually acts like speed, even with a 1/5 of alcohol. VanDam Whoa buddy! I know everyone reacts differently but that is a suicide recipe. Xanax combined with alcohol doesn't mix too well. I know that xanax tolerance can increase rapidly too. I started out with that for anxiety and switched to Valium when i noticed my tolerance growing quick. Insomniac _________________________ "Lois, less talky, more fetchy"-- Peter Griffin. Special thanks to "SUPERSCAPES" for sponsoring this AD and letting me borrow his sig line.
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#487766 - 04/12/07 08:54 AM Re: can take 10 2mg gators bars and get no effect
tallhope Newbie Registered: 06/19/06 Posts: 46	Quote: No offense, but I wouldn't take 10 of ANYTHING. Just doesn't seem like a smart thing to do. Yup.
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#487767 - 04/13/07 06:58 AM Re: can take 10 2mg gators bars and get no effect
never2many Threadhead Registered: 03/29/05 Posts: 697 Loc: In my garden	There must be something wrong with me. I take 1/4 of a .25 xanax and lights out!!! I kid you not. I guess that's why I have full bottles in my medicine cabinet. Doc keeps giving them to me but I don't need them, except once in a blue moon to sleep. I can't imagine taking the qaunities you mention. I would be dead for sure. _________________________ "It goes to show you don't ever know Watch each card you play and play it slow....." Robert Hunter
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#487768 - 04/13/07 11:24 AM Re: can take 10 2mg gators bars and get no effect
mdog23rs Banned Banned. Posts indicate abuse Registered: 03/02/07 Posts: 71	i dont think that iop benzos have the same abuse potential that american benzos do they just dont give the same euphoric feeling also remember the standards here in the US are much higher so lets not kid ourselves the meds in this country are of the highest quality and are F.D.A tested i used to blackout off 2 bars of generic US brand and i dont even feel 2 gators taken at the same time and indian alprax is horriable rivotril clonazepam (indian) is also really bad i have yet to find anything that meets the standards of the U.S.A.
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#487769 - 04/13/07 01:18 PM Re: can take 10 2mg gators bars and get no effect
Lidlwonder GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 02/21/07 Posts: 1601 Loc: Pangaea	Quote: i dont think that iop benzos have the same abuse potential that american benzos do they just dont give the same euphoric feeling also remember the standards here in the US are much higher so lets not kid ourselves the meds in this country are of the highest quality and are F.D.A tested i used to blackout off 2 bars of generic US brand and i dont even feel 2 gators taken at the same time and indian alprax is horriable rivotril clonazepam (indian) is also really bad i have yet to find anything that meets the standards of the U.S.A. Indian Alprax,Indian Rivotril and Alplax from Argentina are as good as they come. You take ephedrine for body building so no wonder you can't feel much 'euphoria' when you take these medicines. If you don't like foreign medicines then stop buying them,stop moaning about them and go domestic.
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#487770 - 04/14/07 12:44 PM Re: can take 10 2mg gators bars and get no effect
mdog23rs Banned Banned. Posts indicate abuse Registered: 03/02/07 Posts: 71	i dont take any ephendrine or lots of caffiene just protein,fish oil pills, vitiam b, multi vitiam, and nitric oxide stimulator which is not a stimulint usa is just higher standards
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#487771 - 04/14/07 12:48 PM Re: can take 10 2mg gators bars and get no effect
Gangel4 Banned GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 06/03/07 Posts: 1412 Loc: Ooo Bahamas =^..^=	Sorry if I sound stupid, but what in the world are gator bars? Attachments _________________________ ♥ *For Every Soul There is a Guardian Watching Over It* ♥ ♥Don't Go Faster Than Your Guardian Angel Can Fly♥
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#487772 - 04/14/07 12:58 PM Re: can take 10 2mg gators bars and get no effect
mdog23rs Banned Banned. Posts indicate abuse Registered: 03/02/07 Posts: 71	i do not take any stimulints for bodybuilding i take vitiams and protein
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#487773 - 04/14/07 12:59 PM Re: can take 10 2mg gators bars and get no effect
mdog23rs Banned Banned. Posts indicate abuse Registered: 03/02/07 Posts: 71	its xanax in bar form 2mg
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#487774 - 04/24/07 06:13 PM Re: can take 10 2mg gators bars and get no effect
ozneb Banned. Asking for PM to disclose sources... Journeyman Registered: 02/22/07 Posts: 80	Quote: Quote: Had to be a bad batch man. If you don't have a huge tolerance, that would have put you to sleep standing up. Insomniac Not really true. I used to get brandname bars was up to 16 a day, yes I know stupid. After a few days, you dont get that zig effect and for me after several bars it actually acts like speed, even with a 1/5 of alcohol. VanDam i get amped on benzos too. you said 16 a day, but thats with a huge tolerance. the OP said youd fall asleep standing if you DONT have a huge tolerance. whenever i see people posting about weak meds the first thing i think is tolerance. i have been there. taking 20 bars cuz i thought they were fake when really it was just my tolerance. anyway.
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#487775 - 05/11/07 02:05 PM Re: can take 10 2mg gators bars and get no effect
missysw0613 Newbie Registered: 01/15/03 Posts: 41 Loc: USA	Some bad batches or fakes of 2mg Gadors Alp are coming out of Argentina. I ordered from ToDo and CheapArgenMeds when everything went haywire within the US a few months back. Received both orders nearly at the same time. Took some from CheapArgenMeds, and knew that they were either fakes, very weak batch, or again, just fakes. Extremely weak from CheapArgenMeds. I popped extra afterwards just to see if I would get that super calm feeling and I didn't. Then took some from ToDo and those were fine and good quality that I have always received from them. Thought I was getting a great deal from CheapArgenMeds compared to ToDo's prices, but got ripped off in my opinion. Only ordered from two seperate places in case one got seized.
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#487776 - 05/12/07 08:15 AM Re: can take 10 2mg gators bars and get no effect
Lidlwonder GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 02/21/07 Posts: 1601 Loc: Pangaea	I'm sorry but that's utter rubbish. I'm not starting any flame war here,but to state that Todo's blistered Alplax are more potent than CAM's Alplax (also in blisters) is absolute BS. Gador don't make bad batches of Alprazolam...ever. Todofarmacia tend to appear and then disappear whenever they choose as opposed to other Argentinian sources that have been around for many years,24/7. Todo are reliable (when their website stays up) but their prices are way too high for an IOP.
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#487777 - 05/13/07 09:19 AM Re: can take 10 2mg gators bars and get no effect
PurpleRabbit Member Registered: 07/25/04 Posts: 162 Loc: Gentoo & Ubuntu in Tux's room	Quote: whenever i see people posting about weak meds the first thing i think is tolerance. i have been there. taking 20 bars cuz i thought they were fake when really it was just my tolerance. I agree. If 20 mg has no effect at all, then 40 mg is going to have no effect either. IMO, there's no point in taking more, if taking just 5 bars does nothing. I always wonder when reading posts about the quality of the meds if the person took the benzos on an empty stomach or if they have built a tolerance. But at a 10 bar dose, I am guessing it's just a tolerance issue. Tolerance can build rapidly to alprazolam and it does not go back to normal for a LONG time after your last dose if you take it regularly. I'm talking like 6 months to over a year for your tolerance to get back to normal.
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#487778 - 05/19/07 08:32 AM Re: can take 10 2mg gators bars and get no effect
BollWeevil Journeyman Registered: 09/26/06 Posts: 56 Loc: USA	Quote: Quote: You said in another thread that you're into body building and you take xanax BEFORE you workout. Why on earth would anyone do this? A sedative muscle-relaxant before lifting weights? I take benzos before exercise, and I love it. In fact, I'd probably be out of shape if it wasn't for impulsively exercising every time I take benzos. _________________________ In all chaos there is a cosmos, in all disorder a secret order. ~Carl Jung
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#487779 - 05/19/07 08:37 AM Re: can take 10 2mg gators bars and get no effect
toadwarrior Veteran Registered: 06/08/06 Posts: 465 Loc: Cowtown NJ	Are you bragging or complaining?
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#487780 - 05/19/07 08:48 AM Re: can take 10 2mg gators bars and get no effect
Administrator Administrator GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 11/18/01 Posts: 6596 Loc: DrugBuyers.Com	Quote: I am 6'4" 250lbs and took one 1/2 of a 2mg Gador last night. Thank god for DVR because I feel asleep during House about midway through. Well rested today! House can have that effect on many viewers :-) _________________________ >>> I welcome all PM's but please do not contact me by PM for lost or forgotten usernames or passwords. Click here to recover your UN or PW online or you can contact us via www.drugbuyers.com/help >>>> please reply to my posts and do not let me be a "thread killer" :-(
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#487781 - 05/19/07 08:55 AM Re: can take 10 2mg gators bars and get no effect
Administrator Administrator GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 11/18/01 Posts: 6596 Loc: DrugBuyers.Com	Generic alprozalam, Alprax, made by Gador in Argentina should be as good a Xanax. If is was not... then you may have received fake sugar or starch pills that look like Gador bars Real Gador bars are good, fake Gador bars are not... I do not believe in bad batches. Between 5 to 10% off all meds sold in Argentina are fake. (According to the main newspaper in Argentina: http://www.clarin.com/diario/2001/10/20/s-06601.htm ) This is a fraud where the crooked vendor buys and sells fake meds on purpose If your vendor has access to fake meds... that is obviously not good. _________________________ >>> I welcome all PM's but please do not contact me by PM for lost or forgotten usernames or passwords. Click here to recover your UN or PW online or you can contact us via www.drugbuyers.com/help >>>> please reply to my posts and do not let me be a "thread killer" :-(
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#487782 - 05/19/07 09:22 AM Re: can take 10 2mg gators bars and get no effect
nephro GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 09/04/06 Posts: 10301 Loc: NOT 40!	Quote: Quote: Quote: You said in another thread that you're into body building and you take xanax BEFORE you workout. Why on earth would anyone do this? A sedative muscle-relaxant before lifting weights? I take benzos before exercise, and I love it. In fact, I'd probably be out of shape if it wasn't for impulsively exercising every time I take benzos. So the benzo takes away your inhibitions in order for you to train? Is that because you go to a gym full of people who are intimidating? Or is it because you just wouldn't make the decision to train without the pills? Or do you convert the lack of inhibition into strength? Sorry I'm not trying to be nosey but as a former bodybuilder myself I'm very interested in this. Hope you don't mind answering these questions.
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#487783 - 05/19/07 10:30 AM Re: can take 10 2mg gators bars and get no effect
Daeshay76 Banned: multiple ID's. Same user as My2Boyz. Registered: 03/22/04 Posts: 1684	I have a very and I mean VERY low tolerance to any benzo's. My old doc rx'ed me 2mg of klonopin at bedtime because I was not getting to the deep level of REM sleep (after a sleep study was done on me). I was bumping into walls and falling asleep and nodding out with a cig in hand and almost burned the house down! I am wondering if I placed a order for a very low strength of Xanax from a IOP if it would be better for me to take at night only to get to the REM sleep? I suffer from fibromyalgia and CFS. I was told the reason for the CFS is because I get zero REM sleep. I have tried ambien and it didnt do much for me when it came to sleep. When my old doc back in TN rx'ed the ambien to me he even told me since the 10mg was not working for me to try and take 20mg of the ambien! That didnt even work! I would even consider ordering the 2mg bars and breaking them into 4's and that would seem cheaper to me to order them that way and only order like 30 of them to see how well they work for me on my sleep issues. I still have about 180 2mg Klonopins but I just do not like the way they make me feel even after taking a half of a half of a pill. I am so fuzzy and still so sleepy in the morning after taking them. It seems as they last so long in my system. I need something short acting to where I am not so groggy in the morning when I wake up. Any suggestions on who to order from that is cheap and what to order? Is valium better than Xanax? I have no experience on benzos at all but I do know when I have taken .25 of the klonopin I am very very well rested but feel so sluggish for most of the following day and I dont like that at all. I have even taken the klonopin around 7pm or so,so i wouldnt be so sluggish the next day but I still have the same effect. Maybe something that is not even a benzo would work for my sleep? I have even tried benadryl with no help from it at all. My doc even wrote me a script for the prescription strength 50mg benadryl with the directions of takeing 2 at bedtime for sleep. That didnt even help me fall asleep. It made me jittery. Any suggestions? TIA _________________________ Sin means to miss the mark; while if you miss the experience of learning, karma will make sure that it comes again.
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#487784 - 05/19/07 12:24 PM Re: can take 10 2mg gators bars and get no effect
Mmd114 Veteran Registered: 04/05/06 Posts: 420	If your making a choice between xanax and valium, go with the valium. Xanax has bad side effects, very addictive and mean withdrawl. Valium is actually recommended for replacement of xanax doses during tapered withdrawl from xanax. What about those other sleeping aids, like Lunesta and Rozerem? Maybe ask your doctor about them....I'm pretty sure they have a different active ingredient than Ambien. Wish you the best of luck and some good nights sleep!
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#487785 - 05/19/07 11:00 PM Re: can take 10 2mg gators bars and get no effect
nephro GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 09/04/06 Posts: 10301 Loc: NOT 40!	The shorter-acting benzodiazepines are triazolam or midazolam. The shortest acting non-benzo sleep med is currently Sonata (zaleplon), which lasts only a couple of hours, but zopiclone or eszopiclone may be OK.
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#487786 - 05/20/07 12:50 AM Re: can take 10 2mg gators bars and get no effect
bikerhoney Board Addict Registered: 10/23/06 Posts: 305 Loc: Margaritaville with my Man, Ji...	Quote: Quote: Quote: Had to be a bad batch man. If you don't have a huge tolerance, that would have put you to sleep standing up. Insomniac Not really true. I used to get brandname bars was up to 16 a day, yes I know stupid. After a few days, you dont get that zig effect and for me after several bars it actually acts like speed, even with a 1/5 of alcohol. VanDam Insomniac that is Exactly what I wanted to say! Vandam, you are a very lucky man to be still alive let alone ending up in a coma. You never know when its gonna just be too much. Before you continue to abuse this medication I would recomend that you go in and see your Doctor. Just let him know that this just does not work for you. You may have to change meds every 3 months just to keep from getting too used to them. But you must go see a Doctor before something really bad happens to you! Take Care of Yourself, Bikerhoney Whoa buddy! I know everyone reacts differently but that is a suicide recipe. Xanax combined with alcohol doesn't mix too well. I know that xanax tolerance can increase rapidly too. I started out with that for anxiety and switched to Valium when i noticed my tolerance growing quick. Insomniac
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#487787 - 05/20/07 08:45 AM Re: can take 10 2mg gators bars and get no effect
Pocahontas Veteran Registered: 01/28/03 Posts: 553 Loc: North	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Had to be a bad batch man. If you don't have a huge tolerance, that would have put you to sleep standing up. Insomniac Not really true. I used to get brandname bars was up to 16 a day, yes I know stupid. After a few days, you dont get that zig effect and for me after several bars it actually acts like speed, even with a 1/5 of alcohol. VanDam Insomniac that is Exactly what I wanted to say! Vandam, you are a very lucky man to be still alive let alone ending up in a coma. You never know when its gonna just be too much. Before you continue to abuse this medication I would recomend that you go in and see your Doctor. Just let him know that this just does not work for you. You may have to change meds every 3 months just to keep from getting too used to them. But you must go see a Doctor before something really bad happens to you! Take Care of Yourself, Bikerhoney Whoa buddy! I know everyone reacts differently but that is a suicide recipe. Xanax combined with alcohol doesn't mix too well. I know that xanax tolerance can increase rapidly too. I started out with that for anxiety and switched to Valium when i noticed my tolerance growing quick. Insomniac This sounds to me like a thread about talking UP the abuses of Xanax....NOT COOL! I need Xanax for a legitimate anxiety disorder with panic attacks. And I'm reading this thread poking fun at my cure. I think Admin should come in and close this particular thread. _________________________ ~Princess Pocahontas~ Better living thru the Pharmaceutical Sciences
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#487788 - 05/20/07 11:46 AM Re: can take 10 2mg gators bars and get no effect
peradvo Board Addict Registered: 11/13/05 Posts: 271 Loc: USA	I have been taking Xanax for 23 years. I have been on .5 to 10 Mg a day. Now I take around two Mgs. I don't feel anything when I take them. But, I get a therapeutic affect. The Buzz is a side affect that goes away through time. I think Gators are a good brand. Edited by peradvo (05/20/07 11:48 AM)
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#487789 - 05/20/07 11:54 AM Re: can take 10 2mg gators bars and get no effect
momtaxi1637 Banned: multiple ID troll. Same as Ladyliberty and others Registered: 05/23/06 Posts: 169 Loc: Maryland	Pochontis......I agree....Reading this thread is a lil disturbing at best!.. I just wonder why a body builder needs xanax? not my business but this thread is going no where good ;( _________________________ no drug, causes the ills of society. we shouldn't test people for drugs; we should test them for stupidity, ignorance,love of power. P.J. O'Rourke
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#487790 - 05/20/07 05:45 PM Re: can take 10 2mg gators bars and get no effect
Mmd114 Veteran Registered: 04/05/06 Posts: 420	Daeshay posted a vaild concern and questions in this thread which were totally unrelated to the OP) to which I replied. I agree the OP and original direction were disturbing, but I did feel Deshay's post deserved a helpful reply. I'm sorry if my post was offensive to anyone, epecially those with necessary and legitimate use of xanax. I happen to be one of those people. Was just trying to offer what insight I had on her questions. p.s. to Deshay, Lunesta is eszopiclone Edited by Mmd114 (05/20/07 05:47 PM)
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#487791 - 05/20/07 05:53 PM Re: can take 10 2mg gators bars and get no effect
OldandWorn GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 09/21/03 Posts: 9854 Loc: Somewhere in the budget	Quote: I'm sorry but that's utter rubbish. I'm not starting any flame war here,but to state that Todo's blistered Alplax are more potent than CAM's Alplax (also in blisters) is absolute BS. Gador don't make bad batches of Alprazolam...ever. Todofarmacia tend to appear and then disappear whenever they choose as opposed to other Argentinian sources that have been around for many years,24/7. Todo are reliable (when their website stays up) but their prices are way too high for an IOP. This whole thread is BS and should be deleted.
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#487792 - 05/20/07 06:26 PM Re: can take 10 2mg gators bars and get no effect
Administrator Administrator GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 11/18/01 Posts: 6596 Loc: DrugBuyers.Com	Quote: I'm sorry but that's utter rubbish. I'm not starting any flame war here,but to state that Todo's blistered Alplax are more potent than CAM's Alplax (also in blisters) is absolute BS. Gador don't make bad batches of Alprazolam...ever. Todofarmacia tend to appear and then disappear whenever they choose as opposed to other Argentinian sources that have been around for many years,24/7. Todo are reliable (when their website stays up) but their prices are way too high for an IOP. Gador is a first class company and they do not make bad batches but there are people that make fake Alprax and fake prescription drugs. Between 5% to 10% of all meds sold in Argentina are fake. They are called "remedios truchos". _________________________ >>> I welcome all PM's but please do not contact me by PM for lost or forgotten usernames or passwords. Click here to recover your UN or PW online or you can contact us via www.drugbuyers.com/help >>>> please reply to my posts and do not let me be a "thread killer" :-(
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#487793 - 05/20/07 07:06 PM Re: can take 10 2mg gators bars and get no effect
Babydebate Stranger Registered: 02/28/07 Posts: 17	I've been on Ambien for 2 years because of the hours I work. When I took benzos and then got off of them and tried to go back to Ambien, I kid you not, it took anywhere from 5 to 10. And these are Ambien I got from an American doctor prescription and paid for myself $150 for 30 for the month. It is really really hard to go back to Ambien if you've taken benzos. I would think, though, that over time from not taking anything, it might work itself back out or maybe try Sonata. Sonata didn't work for me ever. It just made me feel weird. Also, I drink a glass of milk with the Ambien, and take some magnesium and it does help. But I've been going through the same thing and it's a bear to deal with.
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