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#448825 - 02/05/07 03:27 PM RXscriptonline Price Difference
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Has anyone gone to Rxscriptonline website and ordered in the past day or two? Exact same order, exact same shipping and the total cost was about $22 more than before. That happen to anyone else? Wondering if it is just the new pharmacy price or maybe they are sending out the compounds for now. I'm really pretty much confused with it all anyway! LOL Really though, anyone else order and see a significant change in prices?
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#448826 - 02/05/07 04:00 PM Re: RXscriptonline Price Difference
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Booker,

I've been reading up on the pharmacy change, but haven't seen anything about anyone actually receiving their meds (or NOT receiving) them, nor have I heard of the price change. I don't personally use RXSO, but had considered doing so - so this info is important to me also.

As a rule, with any pharmacy do compounds cost more than regular generic?

Back to the OT - has anyone rec'd a precription from the new pharmacy yet?

I can tell you I'd pick compounds over Mallies any day - those things make me ill.

Sorry no answers Booker - hopefully someone else will offer more information.

Princeton
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#448827 - 02/05/07 04:18 PM Re: RXscriptonline Price Difference
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Well there all different but with avee when I had generic 10/325 they were around $130 for 120ct, the 15/200 compound was $89.17 for 120 ct., my guess is CRJ is probably a little more expensive. AVEE was the cheapest out there from what I've seen posted.

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#448828 - 02/05/07 04:40 PM Re: RXscriptonline Price Difference
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The question is who is filling for them.
CRJ and Avee are both shut down as of Feb 2nd.

Kelly, any answers?

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#448829 - 02/05/07 05:01 PM Re: RXscriptonline Price Difference
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I commented on this on the main thread.

CRJ to my knowledge isn't shutdown?

But yeah, Avee is a pharm, they had pretty low prices for this game. CRJ is more expensive, about $20 more or so per #120 ct.

If CRJ is shutdown, and with their already fabulous(NOT) track record to RXSO, I think I'm going to Madison Pain Clinic. They can have all my blood and [censored] they want, I just want to goto college and become something of myself and function without worrying about having to fall to my knees and throwup because with my CP condition comes extreme diziness.

I don't think CRJ is shutdown though, but they can't hold a candle to Avee. Bootlegg operation all the way, used to use CRJ years ago when I was with BestRxCare, and dropped them JUST BECAUSE OF CRJ. Bad meds, high prices and failed me numerous times.
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#448830 - 02/05/07 05:07 PM Re: RXscriptonline Price Difference
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Quote:

The question is who is filling for them.
CRJ and Avee are both shut down as of Feb 2nd.

Kelly, any answers?



This is the first we have heard of the CRJ and YPM issue (AVEE we knew about). I think it is quite obvious now that the regulatory authorities are doing everything they can to impact this industry. We are working on a solution as I type, but NO plans will be discussed in this open, public forum. We will communicate directly with our patients through email and PM's. I have already read posts about Chris and his services. I hope the members will keep in mind that Chris has provided service to patients that could not recieve their meds from any other source for quite some time, and he has done this without wavering. I am sure this is a difficult time for he and his employees, and I would hope people will show him support during this time.

As I mentioned, we are working on a solution for our current members and their refills. Once again, we will not process any new consults until we figure out fulfillment options for refills that are due and are coming due. I will respond to as many posts as I can this evening, but I will not respond to comments abviously made to invoke any sort of controversy or debate.

We eluded to this weeks ago; this is and will continue to be a tough time for this industry. I am sure these closings are not the last we will hear of over the next few days. Keep in mind, RXSO and their pharmacy partners have conducted business within the guidelines of the regulatory Rules that govern us. Telemedicine is practived every day by both public and private sector businesses and entities. There are many ILLEGAL online pharmacies. The problem is the regulatory authorities do not know how to find them, so they are looking for examples to make of places that they can reach.

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#448831 - 02/05/07 06:05 PM Re: RXscriptonline Price Difference
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So CRJ is shutdown now, RxScriptOnline has no pharmacy. Sorry for all of you that have to suffer through this time without meds.

The feds are attacking innocent people. Is it illegal to have a pharmacy in this country that services telemedicene? No. Can big brother bully that pharmacy to stop, or even out of business, you better believe it.
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#448832 - 02/05/07 06:29 PM Re: RXscriptonline Price Difference
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Well because of Avee lying to RXSO's clients, about them notifying us about the change in their refill schedule, it's now been over a week since refill was due to be ordered.

I was optimistic this morning though, as my refill date had been returned to 25 days, not 30 on RXSO's site. So I placed a refill thinking soon I would actually get one.



Aside; To save confusion I will be changing my name to something else soon. "Purrfull" is too similar to my username, and the new purr doesn't wish to change her/his name. I am pretty sure that "laurafull", or "Unimatrixfull" would understand. Out of respect I shall alter my name to not cause confusion.
I would imagine new people would find the two confusing. Sort of like Adminfull, or moderatorfull...?
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#448833 - 02/05/07 06:35 PM Re: RXscriptonline Price Difference
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I, too, did my refill today thinking it would go through with CJR. You are not alone. Thank goodness it is COD! Will RxScriptOnline find a new pharmacy soon, other OP's aren't having problems it seems like....... there are many listed here to use and they all seem to be doing business as usual.......may be time to look for another place to go, although don't want to......
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#448834 - 02/05/07 06:37 PM Re: RXscriptonline Price Difference
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Well because of Avee lying to RXSO's clients, about them notifying us about the change in their refill schedule, it's now been over a week since refill was due to be ordered.

I was optimistic this morning though, as my refill date had been returned to 25 days, not 30 on RXSO's site. So I placed a refill thinking soon I would actually get one.



Aside; To save confusion I will be changing my name to something else soon. "Purrfull" is too similar to my username, and the new purr doesn't wish to change her/his name. I am pretty sure that "laurafull", or "Unimatrixfull" would understand. Out of respect I shall alter my name to not cause confusion.
I would imagine new people would find the two confusing. Sort of like Adminfull, or moderatorfull...?




Do you think that we do not WANT to get your refills to you?> Honesttly, this is not a matter of us or any of our pharmacy partners not wanting to provide you with service. This is a matter of regulatory interference. I am sorry your refills have not been delivered, and as I stated, we are working on a solution. But please keep in mind, our inability to srevice you right now is not our choice. For the same reason you can not receive meds from your local physician, you can now NOT receive medication from our pharmacy partners; regulatory interference. And for all of the people making statements that the AVEE, CRJ and YPM (not to mention NWW, Medipharm, etc) closings were just a matter of time, why were you using these services? I have countless emails from my patients saying they were all basically life savers for them and their families.

All of the above mentioned companies will continue to do what they can given the circumstances and situation. Please be patient as we, RXSO, will do the same.

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#448835 - 02/05/07 06:45 PM Re: RXscriptonline Price Difference
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Trust me when I say I hope that you can find a pharmacy for us all. I'm just wondering why it is focused on Chris, CJR and AVEE and none of the other many OP's listed. I'm probably just missing something on why it is focused to those 3. I'm sure you are working on finding a pharmacy to work with you and as I have an order pending as of an order just today, I look forward to hearing updates through the private emails you told us would be keeping us informed, which is a smart move.
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#448836 - 02/05/07 06:47 PM Re: RXscriptonline Price Difference
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Kelly, I know that you would and have done all you could. I feel badly for you guys. You have been awesome for a long time. As WAS Avee.

I have nothing to say about the conspiracy theorys, or whatever. All I know is that the best OP has their hands tied, but will never lose their integrity, as if that matters anymore, in my eyes.

I pray you all stay safe and that in the future we can once again do business together.

You are a person of honor. And those of us who have been with RXSO for a long time know that.

Bless ya
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#448837 - 02/05/07 06:48 PM Re: RXscriptonline Price Difference
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AVEE pharmacy has been a target of Karen Tandy, who in 2003 deemed it a rogue pharmacy and vowed to shut it down along with two others. The two others - one already happened (Medipharm?) and I don't remember the name of the third.

As far as why YPM/CRJ, I don't know.

If you try a couple search terms here, you will find old threads on the subject.

ETS: Yes, Kelly, you certainly have a lot of support here. I have always been very happy with the CS I have received from RXSO and you in the past.


Edited by LauraA (02/05/07 06:50 PM)

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#448838 - 02/05/07 06:50 PM Re: RXscriptonline Price Difference
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Kelly most people on this board are pulling for you and YPM. I know that you both are trying to figure out a way to help all of your patients that need their refills and if anybody is going to come through, it will by you. Good luck! You have a lot of people in your corner, wishing you the very best.

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#448839 - 02/05/07 09:33 PM Re: RXscriptonline Price Difference
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Why are you accusing us of using these services???? These are the services used by RXSO, not us. Stop blaming the customers. We didn't cause the problems.

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#448840 - 02/05/07 09:56 PM Re: RXscriptonline Price Difference
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So CRJ is shutdown now, RxScriptOnline has no pharmacy. Sorry for all of you that have to suffer through this time without meds.

The feds are attacking innocent people. Is it illegal to have a pharmacy in this country that services telemedicene? No. Can big brother bully that pharmacy to stop, or even out of business, you better believe it.




Here's an interesting nrief article regarding telemedicine in Canada. I found it tonight in an attempt to find a local pain clinic if the trip to my specialist doesn't work out well for me.
Use of Telemedicine in Chronic Pain Consultation: a Pilot Study

Author(s): Peng P; Stafford M; Wong D; Salenieks M;

OBJECTIVES: Telemedicine has been used extensively in various settings, including monitoring patient treatment response and counseling. However, there are few data on the application of telemedicine to chronic pain patients. The present study was the first pilot project to determine whether telemedicine technology for chronic pain consultation was feasible, cost-saving, and satisfactory to patients and pain physicians. METHODS: A prospective pilot study was conducted on chronic pain patients requiring follow-up consultations using telemedicine technology. Patients were interviewed by phone following the consultation. RESULTS: Eleven telemedicine anesthesia consultations involving eight patients (age 42+/-9 years; six men, two
women) were performed. All were follow-up consultations. The average distance from patients' home to the clinic was 314+/-170 km. The reasons for consultation were for update of patient progress (10/11), medication change (6/11), and counseling (3/11). The time to complete the consultation was 24.5+/-9.5 minutes. Patients having telemedicine consultations spent 0.9 hours (0.83-1) and Canadian dollar 3 (dollar 2-4) versus an estimate of 8 hours (6-8) and Canadian dollar 80 (dollar 46-260) for a conventional consultation. Telemedicine consultation was found to be highly satisfactory to the patient and the consulting and attending anesthesiologists. CONCLUSIONS:
This pilot study indicates that telemedicine follow-up consultations for chronic pain patients are feasible and cost-saving. Patients and anesthesiologists were highly satisfied with telemedicine consultation. Patients reported a significant saving in time and cost compared with a conventional consultation.

The
Clinical journal of pain.

http://www.ncps-cpr.org/news_detail.php?id=25

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#448841 - 02/05/07 10:44 PM Re: RXscriptonline Price Difference
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Yeah, Kelly we know it's not your fault. Don't shoulder any blame, or insults. Even I came off as prude. You've always done me right, from med changes that were already scripted, to assuring me my paperwork came thru fine and dandy. Sorry RXSO family, I'll be waiting for good news. I'm enroute to pay Madisons million bagillion dollar tarrif, with blood and urine screens.
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#448842 - 02/05/07 11:43 PM Re: RXscriptonline Price Difference
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Kelly never lied about anything. When Avee decided to change its refill policy, it wasn't RXSO's decision. This is probably something which popped up over night which originated at Avee. They knew something was going on. Probably got some kind of tip things were going to get bad. What was Avee supposed to do, send out notices that they might be having some legal trouble? That in itself would not have been legaly advisable. Alot of these negative comments dirrected towars Kelly are just fueled by a lack of intelligence, compassion or just plain ignorance. Read up on his posts before posting. It's easy. Clicjk on his username, go to the bottom of page and click on veiw posts. You will find that he is one of the most helpful Reps and always shows alot of respect and composure. On top of that he is a very intelligent business man. And like the man said, they would love to be able to do business with us.

If anyone can bounce back from this unfortunate event, it will be RXSO. And I bet that if they do, they will make things right for everyone just as they did in the past.

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#448843 - 02/05/07 11:52 PM Re: RXscriptonline Price Difference
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Why are you accusing us of using these services???? These are the services used by RXSO, not us. Stop blaming the customers. We didn't cause the problems.




Kelly is not blaming the customers. He is not accusing anyone of anything. He asked why people who realized these particular pharms were next in line to go would use the OC's that used those pharms. I would wonder the same thing myself. Why use a place that you believe is in trouble and then be upset at the ROP when it did get in trouble?

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#448844 - 02/06/07 06:59 AM Re: RXscriptonline Price Difference
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Well, how are we supposed to know who MIGHT be going out of business. Is that really our job as a patient?---or should we believe RXSO when they tell us that is where they have sent our refill request? How do others know that they(CRJ) went out of business & RXSO didn't know? Don't they find out this info prior to the patients doing research or are we all expected to be psychic & know who is out & who is in(online pharmacies)? Personally, I would like ito have a pain-free life with a company that I can count on to take care of their business. I only want RXSO to take care of their business as they always have up until the "Dr. retiring-need to have new consult" issue 2 months ago & then this fiasco. I find it so hard to believe that RXSO would have all their eggs in one basket with one ridiculously supid, lying pharmacy-AVEE-who evidentally dropped them like hot potatoes. RXSO had to have found that AVEE was dumping them prior to this entire fiasco & waited until patients started calling in for refills before trying to find another pharmacy. For God's sake, xfer the G.D. scripts to Walgreen's, Wal-Mart or CVS or is that against the cardinal Rules that I evidentally don't know about. These stores have plenty of meds & can xfer anything that they don't have from any other store in the U.S.A. RXSO-get with it & take care of your business. I don't whine to you about my problems, so don't whine to me about yours. You are supposed to conduct your business like it really is one & I should not be expectecd to research all the online pharmacies in the world. Plus, not being psychic, I find it impossible to divine which online pharmacies are on their way out. Is that really my job? Can't I have a pain-free life & leave the pharmacy finding to RXSO? I am not blaming Kelly for anything. He is the unfortunate one who is designated to listen to people who are in excruciating pain & then he tries to do what he can to help. Not a fun job or task to have. My script is now 8 days late, I am cranky, & sorry if anyone is offended, but I depend on RXSO to do their job & this time they have not. By the way, I have never heard of CRJ who RXSO told me yesterday that they had sent my refill request to. Who are they? How do you know that they are not in business anymore? When did they go out of business? Why didn't RXSO know about this if their patients did?
Thanks for any info about CRJ & the other places that are now dark. I have looked for a CRJ web site, but couldn't find one.
Cecelia

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#448845 - 02/06/07 07:18 AM Re: RXscriptonline Price Difference
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AVEE was well known to have been targeted by the DEA for several years. And, just the nature of this business and uncertainty is a reason we should all research which ROP we choose to go with and the pharmacy that they use. If AVEE can be reached and if your state's laws will allow for a transfer, that may be an option. Or, Kelly is likely working on whatever other solution may be viable for his customers at this time.

Sorry to be short, but I have to go to work. Many of us are in the same situation and should have a back-up plan in case Kelly is not able to come up with a solution - some things are out of his control. But he is around and working on what to do next.

I don't know that CRJ ever had a website...AVEE was ordered to stop servicing telemedicine by law enforcement.

CRJ was out of business as of yesterday and that's why no one knew until then.

I have also been through the doctor retiring and also have refills in limbo, so I know how you're feeling.


Edited by LauraA (02/06/07 07:19 AM)

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