Back to clen...:) I have used clen several times along with ketofin (sp) and I find it very tolerable. However it is not something I would rec to anyone wanting to lose a considerable amount of weight simply b/c the number the cycles one would have to use. While it is approved for human use in other countries, the US deemed it unsafe for a reason. It does however increase my appetite something fierce. Pharmamx.com is out of stock right now but they usually have 40 tabs of 20mcg for 10 dollars. That is the best price I have ever seen.

Corpus, you say clen "increases" your appetite? From this and other things I've read about it, it doesn't sound like a very promising weight loss tool, jmo.

I have this stuff laying around but I'm looking for some info on how severe the side effects can be. Does this stuff overstimulate you like other diet pills or does it work in an other way?

I have used clen in two cycles in the past year; first time I lost a pound in two weeks, second time I lost 5 lbs. in two weeks but gained 2 of them back the following week after stopping. Couldn't sleep, no bad side effects though... it doesn't suppress hunger and only works IF you work out while doing it.

The first cycle I only worked out like 5 times in two weeks, the second time I worked out 1.5 hours a day every day on it and so... really, I didn't think it was the miracle drug everyone says it is. Yes, I was hungrier on it.

If you want to weight train and do cardio 2 hours a day, eat high protein and low carb and cut out sweets, it works.

But that pretty much would give you the same results WITHOUT it. I never felt hot or shaky; measured my temperature and it wasn't appreciably raised.

I am a 130 lbs. 5 foot 2 and have no health issues. I was taking 6 of the 20 microgram pills a day, so yeah, I tapered up and down and did everything right, drinking 64 oz. of water a day and everything. Just FYI.

giveme: side effects were as follows, specifically...

first day: 20 mcg. headache, hands shaking
second day: 40 mcg. same
third day: 80 mcg. no side effects except mild back and neck pain, which also could have been from the workouts, difficulty falling asleep before 2 a.m.
fourth day: 120 mcg. no side effects except muscle cramps in my legs and mild tremors in my legs, which were easily treated by eating a banana and taking 500 mg. of taurine as a supplement; insomnia, for sure.

Fifth through 14th day: same as the fourth day.

Second cycle I started with 40 per day, then 80, then 120 within the first three days and kept that up with the supplements through day 14.

I suppose if you are willing to work out hard, take the supplements, and give yourself two-week breaks, it would be possible to lose 20 lbs. in 6 months fairly easily. No guarantees it would stay off, so this is probably not the quick fix for you.

However, I did find that it increased the muscle mass in my legs, butt and arms pretty quickly; so if you are looking to tone what you have, THIS IS a good option. Definitely.

I'm thinking if you did 4-6 cycles over the course of a few months, the gradual building up of muscle would raise your metabolism, so if you decide to do this as a way to get lean muscle and up your overall fitness, yeah, it'd be great for that.

You lot looking to lose 60 or more lbs. quickly are not going to do it on clen, though. Obviously it would work better on men than women because of the difference in muscle to fat ratio for them.

Yes, clen and all the "-ols" discussed in this thread are called adrenergic agonists which enhance or stimulate ones adrenaline in your system.

Even though they are classified as bronchodilators and the like, all they are really doing is stimulating your body in general or specific organs (i.e. lungs/heat)

Hiya, I tried about 2 cycles of clen. It is really easy to find and buy. There are a few draw backs:

1) It makes your body temp rise..so you are f'ing burning up all day.

2) You get the shakes..like you can't even hold a pencil.

3) You get cramps and muscle fatigue so you can't really workout.

My second time around I tried it wih Phentermine combo and that worked but the side effects of Clen just aren't worth it...

Let me know if have any other questions about it

It does stimulate but not in an energy way, it just makes you feel really warm....by raising your body temp. If you like to work out or exercise it's nearlly impossible on this stuff.

Yes, it does stimulate one in an adrenaline/energy kind of way.

I've been taking salmeterol (in the form of Advair) every day for the past year and a half. I do get leg/feet cramps since taking it. Mostly in the middle of night.

Albuterol has given me major hand shakes since I've been a little kid; however, I only use that every once in a while. When you use it every day, IMO, your asthma is not under control.

It does not interfere with my workout, and the cramps or shakes do not interfere with anything. They are embarrassing when they happen sometimes in public, but I just say it's my asthma medication ... which it is.

None of these brochondilators seem to raise my body temperature.

I think you are confusing or trying to meld the ephedrine/caffeine/aspirin stack, which [supposedly] used to raise body temperature and metabolism while also blocking prostaglandins which countered this.

used a cycle to 2w on 2w off worked good not great, maybe may dosage was pretty bad but it worked anyhow

I did that cycle to, but iīm just curios, how your dosage per day was?

Does anyone know a place to get affordable spiropents?

For some really detailed info on Clen, dosing and side effects etc,
look here http://www.clenbuterol.cc/