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#412601 - 11/22/06 08:57 AM
Re: Hey everyone - NWW bust killed me
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Registered: 11/13/06
Posts: 157
Loc: Right here *points to ground*
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Geez that's nuts, the cost of insurance that is.
I pay $68 a month for myself and three kids and get 80% coverage of meds/dental/optic and I get a semi private hospital room plus surgery for free, plus going to doc fer free yadda yadda....
Our deductible is $50 a year per person.
Despite that I still spend 2-600 minimum a month for meds Eeeep...
I have carp. tunnel and you're right, it can be very painful BUT ............
I can see treating it with some narcotics right before surgery *although I've never seen it in friends that have had the surgery*, but not 120 a month. Sorry.
I don't mean that as an insult to anyone and pain is such an individual thing so I really can't say what works for anyone. I'm only saying what it seems like to me, based on what I'm scripted a month and what it's for.
This is something that is semi treatable tho. As anyone knows the surgery for carp. tunnel syndrome may work or may not. Normally it does not restore everything and does not take all pain away, so basically we're talking improvement.
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#412605 - 11/22/06 02:50 PM
Re: Hey everyone - NWW bust killed me
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Veteran
Registered: 02/08/03
Posts: 454
Loc: Upstate New York
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The quickest and best thing you can do right now is to get ahold of some Kratom. You can order it Friday and have it in hand Saturday morning. Yes, that IS a hydro eternity, but Kratom WORKS! It truly rids your body of the evil withdrawals and even provides some pain relief. I've gone through this before when my OCS lost its pharmacy. That was before Kratom and it was hell on earth for two weeks! I'm not going to tell you that it's the same as hydro, but it will allow you to function. The withdrawal will go away. I never thought it possible, but Kratom is now allowing me to get off of hydro more and more. It isn't cheap, but you can get it via several internet sites without a single questionnaire or a single doctor having to approve anything. Try it my friend. PM me if I can help anymore. BTW, I hope I'm not breaking any Rules here, but I've used flaglercafe.com They've been great and have always delivered when promised. They'll be able to ship for Saturday delivery. Yes, that is a more expensive option but it's the only option in the sooner than later category. After all, just hooking up with new OCS won't happen until Monday at the earliest. Then there's the DDing question. Are you DDing if you get another script while your NWW script is technically still current? I know it sounds like fantasy land that something as legal as table salt will kill the withdrawal without all the hoops we're used to jumping through for hydro, but you'll truly find it to be very much an incredible reality. GOOD LUCK!!!
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#412607 - 11/22/06 07:17 PM
Re: Hey everyone - NWW bust killed me
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Registered: 11/13/06
Posts: 157
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That does sound like an idea@the Naproxen. Maybe go in and talk to someone and see what they can give you, that will handle the pain for now, have SOME good pain relief in there but is less strength wise ? It's really unfortunate that the docs you've dealt with have done that, cuz now come the wd's unless you get something to help with them such as Kratom or meds that will help ease you through them. I really hope you figure something out there 'cuz man oh man those wd's can be bad. (plus of course the pain that will come along with it) Do you have a thing to wear on your wrist ? y'know the ones I'm talking bout right ? Brace type of thing ? I wear one and I gotta tell ya, they're not all created equal. Some are much better than others. Maybe go to a sport clinic and get fitted for a good one. It will take a little bit to get used to it too, so even if it feels "weird" for a few days, keep at it. I use mine while hammering away on keyboard 'n once I got used to it, it helped *some* not totally, but some. Oi@the self employed thing, yeah that can be a pain when it comes to insurance. First thing first would probably be to figure out how you're going to deal with the wd's and then how you're going to deal with the pain relief after that. I'm sure if you go through the clean out of the stuff 'n go back to a clinic someone will help you in regards to what you CAN take that might help (for example the mix you suggested, it sounds like it would be a good one). Doc's tend to be a bit pharma-phobic at times (like you experienced), especially in clinics.
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#412609 - 11/22/06 07:34 PM
Re: Hey everyone - NWW bust killed me
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GRAND Pooh-Bah
Registered: 03/25/04
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The surgery is 10,000 - 20,000 and the time I would have to take off work make it impossible. And naturally I can't get insurance because of a pre exisiting condition.
This is a crazy for carpel tunnel surgery, I mean for one most of the time they don't use general to put you under for this surgery, they use a local and a sedative, also my fusion on my back was 40,000 and also the surgery for the GnY gastric bypass surgery is under 10,00 dollars, I am sorry but I do not believe the surgery costs that much, my Aunt had surgery for carpel tunnel on both arms and she was put under with general anesthesia, she had the local with a sedative and it was ambulatory surgery meaning one day in the hospital and for both arms it much less then 10,000 dollars, I think she told me it was about $2000.00 per arm plus the doctor fees and the hospital fees as well as the the pre-surgical testing. If your doctor is telling you it costs that much then I would say it is time for a new doctor, the procedure they do is very simple and no way should it cost between $10,000 and $20,000 dollars.
Good Luck hun.
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Ruggie
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#412611 - 11/22/06 07:58 PM
Re: Hey everyone - NWW bust killed me
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Registered: 04/28/04
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The surgery is 10,000 - 20,000 and the time I would have to take off work make it impossible. And naturally I can't get insurance because of a pre exisiting condition.
This is a crazy for carpel tunnel surgery, I mean for one most of the time they don't use general to put you under for this surgery, they use a local and a sedative, also my fusion on my back was 40,000 and also the surgery for the GnY gastric bypass surgery is under 10,00 dollars, I am sorry but I do not believe the surgery costs that much, my Aunt had surgery for carpel tunnel on both arms and she was put under with general anesthesia, she had the local with a sedative and it was ambulatory surgery meaning one day in the hospital and for both arms it much less then 10,000 dollars, I think she told me it was about $2000.00 per arm plus the doctor fees and the hospital fees as well as the the pre-surgical testing. If your doctor is telling you it costs that much then I would say it is time for a new doctor, the procedure they do is very simple and no way should it cost between $10,000 and $20,000 dollars.
Good Luck hun.
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Ruggie
Totally agree with you on this one, my mother just had the surgery last week and it was not even close to $10,000  She was give a local and sent home with a script for Darovcet....
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#412616 - 11/23/06 11:06 AM
Re: Hey everyone - NWW bust killed me
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Journeyman
Registered: 08/27/06
Posts: 66
Loc: Midwest
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Thanks everyone for the advice. I actually went to an urgent care place today. They prescribed me Orphenadrine (muscle relaxer), Naproxen, and they gave me some percocet 5/325 which they said should help with w/d symptoms.
I didn't tell them about the Vicodin I already ordered but I will be weaning myself off of them entirely now. The more and more people I talk to the better off I think I would be with less narcotics and more muscle relaxors/anti-inflammatories. I'll let everyone know how it goes.
Odd thing, the w/d really ISN'T that bad and this is after being on them for YEARS. I guess some people just don't have as bad of symptoms as others but I went a couple days without anything at all and besides feeling pain in places I normally hadn't (pry mental) and slight fatigue everything else was fine - lucky me!!
The $10,000 stated was pre therapy. The PT relieved the pain from my left side so it is quite possible it would now be half of that? Either way I can't afford $2,000 or $5,000 right now ... or the time off of work mainly. Plus to be honest, I don't WANT TO go under the knife, sorta freaks me. I had a family member who had a ruptured spleen, ended up septic, and nearly died. So surgery frieks me a bit...
That and the article I just read on anastesiologists shooting up fentanyl while treating patients - jesus that's scary stuff ...
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#412622 - 11/23/06 02:23 PM
Re: Hey everyone - NWW bust killed me
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Registered: 11/13/06
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It's AWESOME !!! that you went in to clinic !
Those meds should help with things. Naproxen is an amazing med, even though it's not as strong as some things and of course any kind of muscle relaxer will hinder things from getting really tight.
It's nice to hear that you haven't had much wd's. I never really get into them too bad until 24-yadda later and I'm on a boatload lot of stuff.
What I noticed when I was on lower dosages is I would just feel a lil "icky" for a few days tired 'n stuff, but the wd's (once they kick in) now are.. horrid.. Great to hear that the doc was that caring tho in regards to wd's.
People going septic and doctors shooting up are not normal things.
I spent years sitting outside of Neurosurgery theaters, Neuro Intensive Care Units (ya wouldn't believe how much they do right infront of people there just in order to keep people alive) 'n Neuro surgery/trauma wards. It became normal to watch people with plastic tubes out of their brains draining off excess CSF (cerebral spinal fluid), laying in bed reading magazines. We're talking an open space right into their cranium and plastic tubes coming out. I never saw one of them die.
I watched people with un operable brain tumors waste away and die, strokes 'n so forth, but not the ones that needed the most surgery. Absolutely amazing to witness. Plus most of the ones that had brain tumors, were sitting up eating later the same day and then going home 1-2 days later. Now if that's the case with brain surgery, think about it. You'll be ok !! I get why yer scared tho, it's one of those things we can't control..
I hope you'll be able to plan for surgery and set money aside for a while even if we're talking a year or two, because it has the possibility of helping you.
Will ya let us know how the meds work compared to the stuff you were on before ?
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#412627 - 11/25/06 11:28 AM
Re: Hey everyone - NWW bust killed me
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Journeyman
Registered: 08/27/06
Posts: 66
Loc: Midwest
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I hope you'll be able to plan for surgery and set money aside for a while even if we're talking a year or two, because it has the possibility of helping you.
Will ya let us know how the meds work compared to the stuff you were on before ?
I cut your quote a little short so the post wasn't a page  But I hear everything oyu are saying. I know it's a 'superficial' surgery as far as surgeons are considered but to me it's still freaky. I will be avoiding surgery at all costs and pry making excuses for the rest of my life to behonest lol. BUT the good news is my doctor was telling me about all kinds of new non FDA approved trials goingon right now that look "Very Promising" were her exact words.
She actually said if I can keep dealing with the pain and taking meds I should hold off if I don't like the idea of surgery. She stated these new methods were non invasive but didn't get into much more detail. To me that sounds like laser surgery with microscopic cuts, hat sort of thing I could handle ..
As far as how the treatment is taking. It's gotten a bit worse and better at the same time - hard to explain. I don't like the percocet as much - A friend gave me some 20 mg oxy's (I know, don't take a friends meds) and they make me itchy whereas hydro doesn't. I also felt lethargic, which sucks ...
The muscle relaxer is helping though and I can feel a difference. The Naproxen is also makign a large difference. All in all once I get the narcotics out of my system I think I should be able to get to a point where I only need them for 'break through' pain. However, days such as yesterday when I was doing yard work all day - the pain was immense and I took more painmeds than prescribed. Situations like that, which will be like when i have 16 hour work days at the computer I just don't think I will be able to get away without some sort of narcotic pain relief especially since I have it in my mind this is the case. My goal is to just use them as break through meds though, within 2-3 months.
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