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#412257 - 11/21/06 07:29 AM Re: NWW, its time for a charge back, unless they contact you
massmanblue Stranger Registered: 09/02/05 Posts: 8 Loc: Massachusetts	I'm sorry everyone.. I posted to the wrong thread..I am a newbie and just getting use to this.. Didn't mean to post wrong. take care
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#412258 - 11/21/06 07:40 AM Re: NWW, its time for a charge back, unless they contact you
flowergirl1 GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 09/21/05 Posts: 548	Quote: Don't fall for this, folks. "AbacusMeds" is just another spinoff of NWW - "Nina" is really Samantha from NWW. Her father, Michael Boxstead, is the owner of all of these pharmacies and OCS centers, along with Brian Green. They use the exact same pharmacy, exact same call center, exact same web software and ordering web software, complete with the exact same "refill link" bug, and the exact same ex-NWW moderators. She's not even posting from the US, much less Tampa. Just do the chargeback. WOW..(To the above post)BTW.. Ruggie thanks for updating everyone if it wasnt for you I dont think people would know what to do. IMO you deserve a BIG Thank You and Hugs. This whole thing is awful Edit to add Hoppa,Sue, Abbey and many more.. Hugs
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#412259 - 11/21/06 07:59 AM Re: NWW, its time for a charge back, unless they contact you
patient2all GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 05/16/02 Posts: 3529 Loc: NY/NJ	Quote: As I understand how it worked.. the money was put back onto my credit card by my BANK ..not the ROP... & whether their accounts were frozen or closed or whatever had no effect on the chargeback process. what crumb said is 100% true - a while ago, an honest place i got a certain med from now & then wrote me that mc/visa "froze" their assets - they said no choice but to do a cb - visa put the money right back into the account with barely a question asked. _________________________ I'll be back...
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#412260 - 11/21/06 08:07 AM Re: NWW, its time for a charge back, unless they contact you
tigersmom GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 07/20/05 Posts: 5820 Loc: The Steve Doocy Fan Club	well so much for the "strict requirements" that NWW put in place awhile back...getting your records on an offical Letterhead, and all that business didn't mean squat apparently... _________________________ "Prejudices are what fools use for reason." - Voltaire
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#412261 - 11/21/06 08:10 AM Re: NWW, its time for a charge back, unless they contact you
SteinmanW Member Registered: 06/19/05 Posts: 154	Quote: well so much for the "strict requirements" that NWW put in place awhile back...getting your records on an offical Letterhead, and all that business didn't mean squat apparently... Heh - yeah, that "letterhead" nonsense never did make any sense. No physician keeps Progress Notes on letterhead. NWW never did understand the difference between "letterhead" and a pad of Progress Notes with the office name and address and phone number at the top. "Letterhead" is for .... letters. If you tried to tell them that, they would just delete your post and ban you.
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#412262 - 11/21/06 08:12 AM Re: NWW, its time for a charge back, unless they contact you
Ruggie GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 03/25/04 Posts: 8800 Loc: Right Here	From abacusmeds and the same thing is stated on the NWW site, this statement has been posted since the day the pharmacies got closed down. Makes ya say HMMM. Quote: Dear Customer : Firstly, we clearly need to thank you for your patience during a turbulent and confusing time yesterday. Please be advised that we are reviewing the current position regarding the issues relating to the Pharmacies that dispense medications to our members who have been issued a prescription after undergoing a medical consultation. We are unable, at this moment, to give a definitive answer on that position and we hope to be able to post an update later today. We would also ask you to bear with us if you struggle to get through to Customer Services at this time. It is inevitable that all lines of communication to CS will be extremely busy. We acknowledge your need to know what is going on and we promise to keep you informed of developments as soon as they happen. However, we are determined not to fall into the trap of making statements just for the sake of it. _________________________ Takes a Lickin' & Keeps on Tickin'
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#412263 - 11/21/06 08:17 AM Re: NWW, its time for a charge back, unless they contact you
abbeyart GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 06/13/05 Posts: 3462 Loc: Somewhere out there...	So, Abacus' little rant in this thread is incorrect? Personally, I wouldn't trust any of the OCSs connected with this at this point in time. _________________________ Everything's conditional. You just can't always anticipate the condition.
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#412264 - 11/21/06 08:29 AM Re: NWW, its time for a charge back, unless they contact you
SteinmanW Member Registered: 06/19/05 Posts: 154	It has been very clear for a long time. As soon as the "Three Amigos" mods (Dave Burg aka Neonsign2003 aka Greenguy53 from Decorah, Iowa, Karen aka Gaia aka Crone and Marlene aka prettygirl aka Willow from Pennsylvania) got fired from NWW, they all rushed over to Abacus, with different screen names of course. Samantha Anderson from the UK (nee Boxstead) is Nina at Abacus.
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#412265 - 11/21/06 08:32 AM Re: NWW, its time for a charge back, unless they contact you
Grasshoppa GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 06/23/05 Posts: 2466 Loc: most Days, just laughing!	Quote: there are always going to be online pharmacies and for every three that go down.. five more come up. massmanblue, Really?? Can you give us the names of them. Maybe a link? OSC's may pop up. But we only have a hand full Pharmacies. ~hoppa~ _________________________ ....I am not foolish. Nor am I afraid!... ...Peek-a-boo...
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#412266 - 11/21/06 08:44 AM Re: NWW, its time for a charge back, unless they contact you
Ember Member Registered: 03/20/03 Posts: 147 Loc: USA	Well, kinda scary to have your name and town on this public bb. I did not know that they were fired?? I seen a list posted of all the same sites (nww) owner/s connected. But Abucas(sp) was on it, at the very top and SVS was on the very bottom. That is all I remember. Hoping No one is hurt by personal info being posted on this forum. NWW had more than the three, wonder what they thought?? Maybe someone knows.. Quote: It has been very clear for a long time. As soon as the "Three Amigos" mods (Dave Burg aka Neonsign2003 aka Greenguy53 from Decorah, Iowa, Karen aka Gaia aka Crone and Marlene aka prettygirl aka Willow from Pennsylvania) got fired from NWW, they all rushed over to Abacus, with different screen names of course. Samantha Anderson from the UK (nee Boxstead) is Nina at Abacus. _________________________ Ember ---------- "Why do I have to get married?" - "I didn't do anything wrong!"
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#412267 - 11/21/06 08:54 AM Re: NWW, its time for a charge back, unless they contact you
SteinmanW Member Registered: 06/19/05 Posts: 154	Jiggy and Kittyrama stayed as mods until the end at NWW. It's great to see Brian Green and Gregg Jackson go down in flames, along with that snotty NWW JD, their "IT" (lol) guy. We should all wish Patty the best of luck and if anyone knows any jobs in the Tampa area let her know.
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#412268 - 11/21/06 09:00 AM Re: NWW, its time for a charge back, unless they contact you
NWWPatty Norcoworldwide.com Registered: 12/01/04 Posts: 300 Loc: AYPWIP???	UHM No those Mods didnt get FIRED they LEFT of their own accord.. And to add, NO member here on this thread has the actual facts. Only the Ones who ran the Call Center & Pharmacy know what they are. This is hearsay & speculation as its best.. Even the concerned rep that gave up the so called facts was not totally right. I was NOT that rep just so ya'll know.. I am upset that this has happened.. I LOVED my job. But now I get to look for a new one for whatever reason the site(s) & Pharmacies closed down.. Bottom line is that MANY people out there need a reliable OCS that they can trust & count on...And the employess affected need jobs.. I had to post.. I was tired of all the "stuff" being said.... I wanted you to know that I cared about how this is going. Best wishes to everyone on the DB Forum.. Patty _________________________ To ERR is human, to FORGIVE divine to get EVEN is PRICELESS
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#412269 - 11/21/06 09:00 AM Re: NWW, its time for a charge back, unless they contact you
Ember Member Registered: 03/20/03 Posts: 147 Loc: USA	Thanks for that, I feel bad for Jiggy and KittyRama, never had a problem with them, and Patty too. NWW seem to be a top notch business, I think many many many are shocked at this and I hope it does not have a trickle down affect. Quote: Jiggy and Kittyrama stayed as mods until the end at NWW. It's great to see Brian Green and Gregg Jackson go down in flames, along with that snotty NWW JD, their "IT" (lol) guy. We should all wish Patty the best of luck and if anyone knows any jobs in the Tampa area let her know. _________________________ Ember ---------- "Why do I have to get married?" - "I didn't do anything wrong!"
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#412270 - 11/21/06 09:02 AM Re: NWW, its time for a charge back, unless they contact you
NWWPatty Norcoworldwide.com Registered: 12/01/04 Posts: 300 Loc: AYPWIP???	Thanks S, Winter Haven, Lake Alfred, Lakeland too..... and I have a friend that needs one as well.... _________________________ To ERR is human, to FORGIVE divine to get EVEN is PRICELESS
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#412271 - 11/21/06 09:07 AM Re: NWW, its time for a charge back, unless they contact you
amjacob Veteran Registered: 12/08/04 Posts: 408	Patty, as a now former loyal NWW customer, I'm sad to see things go down like this and I feel bad for yourself and all the employees. Start of Soapbox: I hate LE. End of Soapbox. Anyways, you guys always took care of me and were always right on top of things. I'll miss you all.
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#412272 - 11/21/06 09:10 AM Re: NWW, its time for a charge back, unless they contact you
Grasshoppa GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 06/23/05 Posts: 2466 Loc: most Days, just laughing!	Are you really Patty?? _________________________ ....I am not foolish. Nor am I afraid!... ...Peek-a-boo...
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#412273 - 11/21/06 09:15 AM Re: NWW, its time for a charge back, unless they contact you
abbeyart GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 06/13/05 Posts: 3462 Loc: Somewhere out there...	Oh, no, is this going to get even more sticky now?? _________________________ Everything's conditional. You just can't always anticipate the condition.
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#412274 - 11/21/06 09:17 AM Re: NWW, its time for a charge back, unless they contact you
NWWPatty Norcoworldwide.com Registered: 12/01/04 Posts: 300 Loc: AYPWIP???	wanna see my PIC ID? they have NOT stopped our accts.. Otherwise I w/n be here.. I dont play that game .. Believe what you want but if you really knew me and my style on the forum's you w/n even have to ask.. But I had a feeling you would ask that question... Back to the job search... P _________________________ To ERR is human, to FORGIVE divine to get EVEN is PRICELESS
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#412275 - 11/21/06 09:20 AM Re: NWW, its time for a charge back, unless they contact you
NWWPatty Norcoworldwide.com Registered: 12/01/04 Posts: 300 Loc: AYPWIP???	NO Abbey it isnt.. I am here as ONLY ME.. not representing NWW I just have to wait for that acct to be ok'd.. patty _________________________ To ERR is human, to FORGIVE divine to get EVEN is PRICELESS
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#412276 - 11/21/06 09:23 AM Re: NWW, its time for a charge back, unless they contact you
boston_pup GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 12/01/04 Posts: 1255	Quote: wanna see my PIC ID? they have NOT stopped our accts.. Otherwise I w/n be here.. I dont play that game .. Believe what you want but if you really knew me and my style on the forum's you w/n even have to ask.. But I had a feeling you would ask that question... Back to the job search... P It's really none of my business but do you think you will be able to draw unemployment until you find another job? It just bothers me how people loose their jobs at the holidays! My brother did a few years back and it was so hard on him and his family. More his moral than anything because we all pitched in to help money wise. Good luck on your job search! I wish you well! Boston _________________________ Patients Against The Under Treatment Of Pain
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#412277 - 11/21/06 09:26 AM Re: NWW, its time for a charge back, unless they contact you
sincity GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 06/07/03 Posts: 1443	Quote: And to add, NO member here on this thread has the actual facts. Only the Ones who ran the Call Center & Pharmacy know what they are. This is hearsay & speculation as its best.. Even the concerned rep that gave up the so called facts was not totally right. I was NOT that rep just so ya'll know.. Well if no member has the actual facts, why did Ruggie speak with you and was told the facts and to post the facts and to give everyone a heads up on what is going on? At this point guys, go with your gut because it appears that everything that has been posted is hearsay, unadmissable in a court of DB law and has no merit or truth. One person posts one thing, then the rep who told the member to post some information is now telling everyone that no one in this thread has the facts This is just nuts..... _________________________ You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour...
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#412278 - 11/21/06 09:28 AM Re: NWW, its time for a charge back, unless they contact you
abbeyart GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 06/13/05 Posts: 3462 Loc: Somewhere out there...	Ok, now I believe this is going to get even more sticky. What is going on (aside from a big ole whopping, confusing mess)?? _________________________ Everything's conditional. You just can't always anticipate the condition.
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#412279 - 11/21/06 09:33 AM Re: NWW, its time for a charge back, unless they contact you
Grasshoppa GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 06/23/05 Posts: 2466 Loc: most Days, just laughing!	Quote: wanna see my PIC ID? they have NOT stopped our accts.. Otherwise I w/n be here.. I dont play that game .. Believe what you want but if you really knew me and my style on the forum's you w/n even have to ask.. But I had a feeling you would ask that question... Back to the job search... P First, I am not the only one that is thinking this. If you are you and can post then that's great. I only asked you, why speak to me like that? No problems on my end. I never said you play games. Did not say that. Would not have said that. If you read my posts, I was sorry this had happened to all of you. Why would you have a feeling I would ask. I do know your style ... I have got to say if this is you, well maybe your style has changed. ~hoppa~ ID not needed, no. They have a copy of it anyway. _________________________ ....I am not foolish. Nor am I afraid!... ...Peek-a-boo...
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#412280 - 11/21/06 09:37 AM Re: NWW, its time for a charge back, unless they contact you
SteinmanW Member Registered: 06/19/05 Posts: 154	Of course it is really Patty. See the ellipsis she uses? Hey Patty! Hang in there - from Bobby! P.S. OK, they weren't "fired" - just had their moderation privileges removed. LOL. I know 3 or 4 people from another non-drug board who live in Florida. I will ask them to keep a heads-up for jobs.
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#412281 - 11/21/06 09:39 AM Re: NWW, its time for a charge back, unless they contact you
SteinmanW Member Registered: 06/19/05 Posts: 154	Quote: why did Ruggie speak with you Patty already said that it was not she who Ruggie spoke with.
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#412282 - 11/21/06 09:40 AM Re: NWW, its time for a charge back, unless they contact you
Texasgal Pooh-Bah Registered: 07/22/05 Posts: 749 Loc: In The Middle Of Right & Wrong	I thought the person that gave Ruggie that info was NOT Patty? BTW-I have never used NWW, but I do wish Patty the very best of luck. Hopefully, with the holidays approaching, there should be lots of places (retail type) that are hiring for the holidays. May not be what a person wants to do, but it is a paycheck, at least thru the holidays. Something to think about. Good luck to everyone tied up in this mess. I will be praying for you guys, that you don't have to go without for too long. TG _________________________ "You don't need a license to drive a sandwich..." Spongebob
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#412283 - 11/21/06 09:42 AM Re: NWW, its time for a charge back, unless they contact you
Administrator Administrator GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 11/18/01 Posts: 6596 Loc: DrugBuyers.Com	What is your new account? I have to close this one if it you do not represent NWW anymore... _________________________ >>> I welcome all PM's but please do not contact me by PM for lost or forgotten usernames or passwords. Click here to recover your UN or PW online or you can contact us via www.drugbuyers.com/help >>>> please reply to my posts and do not let me be a "thread killer" :-(
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#412284 - 11/21/06 09:43 AM Re: NWW, its time for a charge back, unless they contact you
Ruggie GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 03/25/04 Posts: 8800 Loc: Right Here	Quote: Quote: And to add, NO member here on this thread has the actual facts. Only the Ones who ran the Call Center & Pharmacy know what they are. This is hearsay & speculation as its best.. Even the concerned rep that gave up the so called facts was not totally right. I was NOT that rep just so ya'll know.. Well if no member has the actual facts, why did Ruggie speak with you and was told the facts and to post the facts and to give everyone a heads up on what is going on? No Patty did not tell me any of the info above, I found out in others ways, I also felt it only fair that the people stuck with no OCS or pharmacy or meds should have some explaination. And it was obvious that no NWW Owner or CEO or Manager was getting their butts on here to let their customers know what to do. But no matter how you look at it, these OCS's are out a pharmacy as of right now, and NWW is closed as of right now, so the fact remains even if you use one of the other sites you still need a pharmacy to get your meds, and that could take a long time if ever, so that is why I said do a chargeback if they do not contact you and offer you anyone the refund they may be entitled to. _________________________ Takes a Lickin' & Keeps on Tickin'
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#412285 - 11/21/06 09:52 AM Re: NWW, its time for a charge back, unless they contact you
NWWPatty Norcoworldwide.com Registered: 12/01/04 Posts: 300 Loc: AYPWIP???	SHE never mentioned any names.. I WAS NOT the REP she is referring to.. there were 2 NWW reps..remember? I dont HAVE all the facts..Not my place to give it to someone to post for us. Yes, places have been shut down but the people that KNOW the why & howcomes have not posted , Have they? I was posting so that you folks on DB were aware that I had no info & to not think I was deserting the ship. I should have bailed with the rest... There are many things out there that are true.. there is misinformation and a heck of alot of speculation out there as well..that info in Ruggies post did NOT come from me.... Ya need to reread my previous post.. Good Bye.. P Quote: Quote: And to add, NO member here on this thread has the actual facts. Only the Ones who ran the Call Center & Pharmacy know what they are. This is hearsay & speculation as its best.. Even the concerned rep that gave up the so called facts was not totally right. I was NOT that rep just so ya'll know.. Well if no member has the actual facts, why did Ruggie speak with you and was told the facts and to post the facts and to give everyone a heads up on what is going on? At this point guys, go with your gut because it appears that everything that has been posted is hearsay, unadmissable in a court of DB law and has no merit or truth. One person posts one thing, then the rep who told the member to post some information is now telling everyone that no one in this thread has the facts This is just nuts..... _________________________ To ERR is human, to FORGIVE divine to get EVEN is PRICELESS
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#412286 - 11/21/06 09:58 AM Re: NWW, its time for a charge back, unless they contact you
abbeyart GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 06/13/05 Posts: 3462 Loc: Somewhere out there...	Ok. No one has any cold, hard facts about this whole situation. No one knows the real "truth" of it, and the people that do know the "truth" either aren't passing it on, are sitting on it, and not letting anyone know. If this is the case, then we, as DB members, need to stop speculating, stop guessing, and stop posting about things we don't know about, IMHO. All we are doing is creating more confusion. Right now, all we know for sure is that NWW and some affiliated entities are closed down and gone. This being the case, their former customers need to protect themselves and do whatever is necessary to get their money back for goods and/or services not received. _________________________ Everything's conditional. You just can't always anticipate the condition.
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