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#395766 - 10/04/06 08:44 AM Sleeplessness can cause worse problems than grumpiness
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/09/29/sleep.health/index.html (don't want Ruggie, aka "The Link Police" to come at me over this one )

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Confession time: My husband has actually uttered the words "I'd rather take a nap than have sex." Is our marriage on the rocks? No, like 75 percent of adults, our problem is sleep -- he has insomnia; I snore.


We seem to be too busy to get enough sleep. On average, Americans sleep roughly 7 hours a night, 1 to 2 fewer hours per night than they did 40 years ago. And when we do hit the sack, sleep doesn't necessarily follow. No wonder my husband and I sometimes feel like zombies. Worse, there could be serious health repercussions due to our lack of shut-eye.



Do you have a sleep disorder?


How much sleep each person needs varies, though the differences may not be as great as you think, says Eve Van Cauter, Ph.D, professor of medicine at the University of Chicago. Studies have shown that sleep capacity -- how long you'll sleep if you go to bed and get up whenever you want -- is about 8 hours and 45 minutes for healthy young males (the group that's been researched most). In three separate studies, that amount varied less than 30 minutes from person to person. "A lot of people who believe they need only 4 hours of sleep are unconsciously depriving themselves," Van Cauter says.



Most people need 7 to 8 hours a night, according to Lawrence Epstein, M.D., regional medical director for Sleep HealthCenters in Boston, Massachusetts, and former president of the American Academy of Sleep Medicine.



"The idea shouldn't be to get into bed, fall asleep instantly, sleep a set number of hours, and wake up never having had your sleep disturbed," he explains. "The target should be to get an adequate amount of sleep to feel rested during the day."



How do you know you're not getting enough z's? "If you're falling asleep in 1 or 2 minutes, you're probably sleep deprived," says Thomas Roth, M.D., director of the Sleep Disorders and Research Center at Henry Ford Hospital in Detroit, Michigan.



On average, it takes most people about 15 minutes to fall asleep, though Roth notes that "it takes some people more time, some people less." Another way to tell if you're not sleeping enough is to monitor daytime sleepiness. Chronic daytime sleepiness is not normal, says Michael Twery, Ph.D., acting director of the National Center on Sleep Disorders Research. "People can live for decades and never appreciate that they have a sleep disorder and how it's affecting their lives."



The downside of running on empty


Scientists are finding more evidence that sleep deprivation can affect appetite, weight gain, diabetes risk, the strength of your immune system, and even your chance of developing depression.



In 2004, University of Chicago researchers restricted a group of men to only 4 hours of sleep per night. After just 2 nights, the men had an 18 percent decrease in leptin, a hormone that tells your brain when you are full, and a 28 percent increase in ghrelin, a hormone that triggers hunger. These results were reinforced last October by a study of almost 10,000 adults that found that people who slept fewer than 7 hours a night were more likely to be obese than those who got 7 hours of shut-eye. "



Chronic sleep deprivation causes changes in metabolism that produce a state that stimulates hunger," Epstein explains. Sleep deprivation can also affect how your body handles insulin; insulin resistance puts you at risk for weight gain and diabetes.



In a study that's still under way, Van Cauter and her colleagues are looking at chronic sleep loss in a group of normal-weight men and women under age 30. Over 6 months, those who slept fewer than 6.5 hours a night were more insulin-resistant than normal sleepers who logged 7.5 to 8 hours per night.



The short sleepers, the study shows so far, need to produce 30 to 40 percent more insulin to dispose of the same amount of glucose. Still other studies suggest that over time, sleep loss may play a role in the development of depression.



"Positive moods are lower in people with sleep loss," Van Cauter says, "and mood isn't stable over the 24-hour cycle. People have lower moods in the morning. They also have higher levels of cortisol, the stress hormone. All those changes are typical of clinical depression."



Whether it's depression, diabetes, or a bigger dress size, the threat posed by sleep deprivation is real. Sleep disorders can be treated, but often patients fail to recognize the problem -- leading to more sleepless nights.




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#395767 - 10/04/06 09:06 AM Re: Sleeplessness can cause worse problems than grumpiness
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I was just told yesterday I have sleep apnea and half to go to A sleep disorder place to stay over night I had the home test done Awhile back and my SP02 level is dropping to 82%for 32% of the night >does anyone know what this means ?? if so please post or PM with what you all know about this thanks goose

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#395768 - 10/04/06 08:25 PM Re: Sleeplessness can cause worse problems than grumpiness
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SP02 refers to you blood oxygen count. When you go to the emergency room, the little thing that they put on your finger is what measures it. The normal SP02 is 100%-95% or there abouts. If your oxygen saturations are dropping to 82% it means that you are not getting enough oxygen for about 1/3 of the night. Does that make any sense? I hope it does, but if you need any clarification, let me know.
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#395769 - 10/04/06 08:27 PM Re: Sleeplessness can cause worse problems than grumpiness
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Abby, you always seem to find the good articles. And now I think I know why I put on 30 pounds in the last 45 days when I haven't changed a single thing except that I have not been sleeping well at all. Thank you for sheding some light on my extra pounds.
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#395770 - 10/04/06 09:36 PM Re: Sleeplessness can cause worse problems than grumpiness
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armywife thank you very much it makes perfect sense what kind of treatment do they usually do do you know that or does anyone else ?

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#395771 - 10/05/06 04:45 AM Re: Sleeplessness can cause worse problems than grumpiness
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I think I am a "home schooled" expert on insomnia, after fighting a 30 year battle with it (my whole life). And, I know that a lot of people here suffer from various types of insomnia, so if I find something worthwhile, I try to post it so that everyone can get the info they need.
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#395772 - 10/05/06 02:05 PM Re: Sleeplessness can cause worse problems than grumpiness
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Goose, my aunt had the same problem and she has a C-PAP machine that she sleeps with. Its a small mask that fits over her nose and just gently pushes air in when she deceides to not breathe right. I believe that she was seen at a sleep center and that they did two or three different sleep studies to get the right pressures and mask sizes for her. Now, that is just my family experence with it, please do not take that for the only way things are done. But on the bright side, my aunt says she feels better than she ever has and sleeps so much better. I hope your docs can help you find what will help you get some better restfull sleep.
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#395773 - 10/05/06 02:06 PM Re: Sleeplessness can cause worse problems than grumpiness
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Abby, it is very much appreciated. I hope you can finally get some good sleep for yourself. Thank you!!!!
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#395774 - 10/05/06 03:14 PM Re: Sleeplessness can cause worse problems than grumpiness
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I was just told yesterday I have sleep apnea and half to go to A sleep disorder place to stay over night I had the home test done Awhile back and my SP02 level is dropping to 82%for 32% of the night >does anyone know what this means ?? if so please post or PM with what you all know about this thanks goose





My boyfriend has sleep apnea,at these clinics they will fit you with a cpap machine, sounds a little scary, right? IT looks kind of like a darth vader mask. What it does is it pumps constant oxygen up your nose so you close your mouth to keep from snoring. My boyfriend did not hit rem sleep for over 10 years and now he does everynight. If for some reason he falls asleep without it, he does not feel well rested in the morning. I am telling you what, this could be the best thing that you have every done for yourself ( and if you snore loudly like my bf does, also for your siginifigant other.)

Some of the machines are smaller than others, which machine you get kind of depends on how bad your problem is. One word of advice, make sure not to put the mask under your pillow in the morning and leave it their, this could cause an error and you could be without your machine for a couple of weeks. ( I had to use ear plugs, not very fun).


Good luck-Aadi

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#395775 - 10/05/06 03:26 PM Re: Sleeplessness can cause worse problems than grumpiness
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Oh my gosh!!Ican totally relate. RLS is the demon that tortures me all night keeping me from sleeping. This has been going on for about 8 years and during this time I have become the most accident prone person on earth. I fell down a flight of stairs and broke ribs and tailbone, concussion and black and blue from neck to knees.I Passed out in a parking lot and fell face first onto asphalt. I landed on one of those concrete bars at the front of a parking space so broke ribs again and another concussion. Also, I fell asleep behind the wheel on the way home from picking kids up from school and flipped my SUV with my three precious children (seatbelts definitely save lives)Needless to say I will NOT drive with my children when I am tired EVER!!!
But through all of this I'm lucky to get 10 ambien a month from my pm doc.Go Figure!
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#395776 - 10/05/06 04:30 PM Re: Sleeplessness can cause worse problems than grumpiness
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For roughly 1/3 of the night your blood oxygen levels dip into the low 80-'s which means you're airway becomes "blocked" due to slackness of the musculature when you sleep, obstructing the free flow of oxygen (air) to your lungs. When it gets low enough, you reflexively wake up enough to take a deep breath. Which means you never really get a good nights sleep, since you wake frequently to breathe. A CPAP machine (stands for continuous positive airway pressure) is a mask that is secured to the face and keeps the airway open, so that you do not have the frequent awakenings that now occur quite frequently...it may take some getting used to, but in the long run, you'll get a full nights rest and wake feeling refreshed every morning.

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