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#335484 - 04/19/06 12:08 AM Re: Busted for Soma
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I was watching Judge Judy today ands some chick was on there being sued for bail money she didnt pay back. She said that she was caught with Soma and no script and was busted. How can someone be busted for and drug that is not schedualed? I have no more details than this and it could be just BS.




It is a prescription right?

A controlled substance that is illegal without a script?

And judge judy material are the type to [censored] of LE with one of those encounters you see on COPS's (FOX on Saturday night) right?

And they do not know how to go to the doctor (or clinic) and get a srcipt after the fact, right?

And they live in a trailer, right?

And have dreams of that DOUBLE WIDE!

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#335485 - 04/19/06 12:39 AM Re: Busted for Soma
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Dreams of a double-wide trailer....that is too freakin' funny!!!! ROFLMAO!!!
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#335486 - 04/19/06 05:07 AM Re: Busted for Soma
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A two story double wide at that with a garden tub!!

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#335487 - 04/19/06 05:07 AM Re: Busted for Soma
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Unless I am mistaken (and I oft am, and I appreciate the forgiveness of this group) ALL prescription drugs are "controlled". Schedule V drugs like Prozac and Paxil are "controlled" meaning you need a `script to buy them.

Just because they aren't Schedule I or II doesn't mean they aren't illegal to possess without a prescription. It is entirely possible to go to prison for possessing Prozac. (I said possible, not likely...)

Now I just have to ask - why the f*&! would any intelligent person be watching Judge Judy? I thought they had yanked her off the air anyway, after she announced that needle exchange programs should start intentionally giving out AIDS-infected needles "to end the junkie problem".

She said that in front of a big conference in Australia where they were discussing ideas about how to best control their necessary needle exchange program without looking like they were condoning I.V. drug use. The backlash cost her her career, but I thought it had also cost her her show.

I guess if Rush can stay on the air, so can his fellow psychopath Judy. If she were to share some of those needles with him, the world really might be a better place.

http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/128/dumpjudgejudy.shtml

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#335488 - 04/19/06 05:12 AM Re: Busted for Soma
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Oh and hey, let's not be too quick to dis a double-wide trailer - bury that puppy on some acreage in back of your house, pipe in CO2 and electricity for the HPS lights and you've got a mighty fine underground grow room.

For tomatos, of course.

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#335489 - 04/19/06 05:20 AM Re: Busted for Soma
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good day all,
i really do not watch judge judy but i have read about her and know she sat on the district court seat in new york(bronx and brooklyn)i know the one courthouse because my mom's passed but her family and mine were from flatbush brooklyn.
if she said that the needle exchange should give out aids infected ones so that would kill off the "junkies" she is a sick women.correct me but i have heard of people holding up banks or people using a needle saying it had aids on it and they were charged with armed robbery and attempted murder if they stuck someone.she is advocating giving "addicted"people with loaded guns more or less.pull her off the air and make her do community time at aids clinics and methadone clinics.i do not say junkies,i prefer people with the disease of addiction.yes,i am the former u.s. marine for 8 yrs and blown to hell in beruit,lebanon and that makes me apreciate life even more.sorry i i offended anyone.
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#335490 - 04/19/06 05:34 AM Re: Busted for Soma
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Hey...watch it. No everybody finds Rush so offensive. If you listen, he has interesting viewpoints and is very original in getting his point of view across. We could all take lessons in how to do it from him. The message is questionable, but the messenger is a MASTER. He could aid you Trank.

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#335491 - 04/19/06 05:39 AM Re: Busted for Soma
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JUDGE WAPNER Rules!!! He started the whole People's Court thing way back when. His were real cases in the small claims court of LA. He attempted to educate people regarding the law, these new shows are all about fake drama.

My favorite old show featured a porn model (actual case, remember) who claimed that John Stagliano (Buttman) did not compensate her as agreed on a recent film. Just hearing trusted, avuncular Judge Wapner say "Buttman" with a straight face (no pun intended) was hilarious.

I learned a lot about the law from Judge Joseph Wapner. As far as I'm concerned, the rest are just cashing in, not educating.

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#335492 - 04/19/06 06:07 AM Re: Busted for Soma
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Nah jesseblueyes you didn't offend me a bit, and I apologize if I sounded like you had.

I just saw you mention this insane criminal woman and expressed surprise that she was still allowed to speak on the air after that fiasco.

I really thought she had been hiding in obscurity - but I guess daytime television *IS* obscurity, when it comes to the more intellectual class

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#335493 - 04/19/06 06:09 AM Re: Busted for Soma
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I was watching Judge Judy today ands some chick was on there being sued for bail money she didnt pay back. She said that she was caught with Soma and no script and was busted. How can someone be busted for and drug that is not schedualed? I have no more details than this and it could be just BS.




All prescriptions are scheduled whether it be I, II, III, IV, V

If you pocess a prescription med you must have a prescription for that medication, and all states decide how each med is to be scheduled according their own state board of pharmacy.
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#335494 - 04/19/06 06:14 AM Re: Busted for Soma
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#335495 - 04/19/06 06:15 AM Re: Busted for Soma
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I do agree with some of what you are saying. I am fairly far to the political right, and I get a little embarrassed for good Republicans when I hear that twit mispronounce the names of Senators, when he misquotes a specific headline, when he discusses a past historical event and gets his dates ALL wrong...

I agree with much of his political opinions, but he is such a poor showman that he does good Republicans a tremendous disservice. People will think "if they are all as dumb as Rush..." and I find that offensive.

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Hey...watch it. No everybody finds Rush so offensive. If you listen, he has interesting viewpoints and is very original in getting his point of view across. We could all take lessons in how to do it from him. The message is questionable, but the messenger is a MASTER. He could aid you Trank.



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#335496 - 04/19/06 06:21 AM Re: Busted for Soma
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Hey...watch it. No everybody finds Rush so offensive. If you listen, he has interesting viewpoints and is very original in getting his point of view across. We could all take lessons in how to do it from him. The message is questionable, but the messenger is a MASTER. He could aid you Trank.




As a matter of fact, you can be busted for possession of any medication that requires a prescription (if I am not mistaken), that is, if you didn't in fact have a valid prescription for that medication....even an antibiotic, or a foot cream. It is a crime to obtain a med, that isn't an OTC med w/o a valid script from a Dr.

Jackspa...I agree with you about Rush...I think he is a master at communication...and many think he is a pompous a$$...and sometimes he is, but I truly believe that alot of it is an act, intended to rile people up for a desired effect. As for judge Judy...I agree..if you enjoy watching that kind of show, more power to ya'. I personally don't have alot of time to watch TV, so I am extremely selective about what I watch...but I would never begrudge someone for finding enjoyment in whatever show they like..life is too short to worry about what others watch on TV!! Besides, several of my 'Bama, Tenn, and Kentucky relatives live in trailers!! So, I have a bit of a soft spot for that kind of lifestyle!! But, I also see the humor in it...when I first went off to college, my first "off campus" dwelling was a single wide trailer, that I lovingly called "The Twinkie", cause it looked like a twinkie...long and thin. Nothing would have pleased me more than to be able to have a "2-pack" twinkie...in other words, a doublewide!! I finally was able to find a house, and said "so long" to the twinkie...and all it's lucious cream filling!!! lol...

Peace, all...

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#335497 - 04/19/06 06:40 AM Re: Busted for Soma
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I was watching Judge Judy today ands some chick was on there being sued for bail money she didnt pay back. She said that she was caught with Soma and no script and was busted. How can someone be busted for and drug that is not schedualed? I have no more details than this and it could be just BS.




I find judge Judy as largley entertainment, and not always proper law, If I was ever to ask to appear on the show I would make sure I've never done drugs, never a ticket, never an encounter with the law , never been on disability, never collected goverment entitlements, never been in an accident, never had a domestic agrument, never used my cell phone in a public place,never drank alcohol, dont own a gun, and wore apropreate clothing. These are just some of the things that pi...s her off.

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#335498 - 04/19/06 06:47 AM Re: Busted for Soma
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All prescriptions are NOT necessarily scheduled. There are tons of prescription drugs that have no schedule whatsoever.

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#335501 - 04/19/06 07:19 AM Re: Busted for Soma
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Jackspa...I agree with you about Rush...I think he is a master at communication...and many think he is a pompous a$$...and sometimes he is, but I truly believe that alot of it is an act, intended to rile people up for a desired effect.




He really is good at that, almost as good as a circus MC. His facts are more close to home than most, too.

I just wish he would stop embarrassing the Right by quoting so many things incorrectly. The fact that only a select group of people even notice makes the Right look bad as it is, and that most of the people who *do* notice are Democrats who use his errors to bash him. If he was a little bit better with the facts and if he took a class in pronouncing vocabulary words, he wouldn't leave such an egg on the face of the rest of us who overall agree with his politics.

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#335502 - 04/19/06 07:23 AM Re: Busted for Soma
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I'm not DMG but yes I have seen the affliction. It is caused by a severe reaction/infection resulting from a common mold (Aspergillus I think)....do a google search on "Man without a Face"....this guy had the same problem and was fitted with a prosthetic face before he passed away last year.

Judge Judy Rocks....! Lets bust everyone with antibiotics they purchased while on vacation in Mexico!LOL

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#335503 - 04/19/06 08:54 AM Re: Busted for Soma
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Soma is scheduled in some states (like Oregon) but like was said above only narcotics or addictive type medications are "scheduled" as they call it, but any medication that you can't buy over the counter must have a prescription to go with it or it isn't legal.

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#335504 - 04/19/06 09:11 AM Re: Busted for Soma
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Hey...watch it. No everybody finds Rush so offensive. If you listen, he has interesting viewpoints and is very original in getting his point of view across. We could all take lessons in how to do it from him. The message is questionable, but the messenger is a MASTER. He could aid you Trank.




Sorry if I'm off post here, but Rush is a effing hypocrit and that he was doing exactly what he railed against so often makes his words meaningless. He's a complete fraud and a liar, IMO. I hope it knocked him down a peg or two--at least it allowed people to see him for the blowhard liar he is. Yeah; karma sucks sometimes doesn't it Rush. Anyone left who doesn't get how he lost all that weight?
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#335505 - 04/19/06 09:20 AM Re: Busted for Soma
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I think Rush, Judge Judy, that antisephetic moron Michael Savage (who is nothing short of a Facist) and the rest ALL need to remember that wise saying that involves throwing stones and glass houses. They all seem to forget that issues they spout off about effect real people, and (particularly in Limbaugh's case) they too are people who might be subject to the same weaknesses that they contantly rant about simply to get ratings. But most of them are far too sanctimounious to consider that they might actually be human.

Ok, on that last part that might have a point. Maybe they aren't human.

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#335506 - 04/19/06 10:16 AM Re: Busted for Soma
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Hey...watch it. No everybody finds Rush so offensive. If you listen, he has interesting viewpoints and is very original in getting his point of view across. We could all take lessons in how to do it from him. The message is questionable, but the messenger is a MASTER. He could aid you Trank.




YIKES..... the mere sound of his voice makes me cringe. Personally, I can't listen to him...but I'm sure as long as people are buyin it, he'll be sellin it.

....trying to add a nicer tone to my posts.

Have a great day guys!!
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#335507 - 04/19/06 12:03 PM Re: Busted for Soma
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Soma is a schedule IV in Virginia and maybe a few other states, this happened through a request from the state AGs office over a year ago and was placed in a budget bill.

States do have the authority, albeit limited in some ways, to actually schedule some medications. Soma was scheduled in Virginia based on the fact that its active metabolite is Meprobamate, which is a schedule IV drug if taken in its own form. Meprobamate was given as a sedative in the 60s and 70s and even in the 80s was used with caffeine and apap and called Equagesic by Wyeth. It can does have an abuse potential and withdrawls have been described similar to benzos although not chemically similar to benzos at all.

Meprobamate itself without anything added was called Milltown and used as a sedative and sleep medication and Meprobamate was also added to dexedrine and called Dexamil I think, it was considered to be good for depression and alcoholism. Please don't hold me to all the names but there is some vague accuracy (boy is that a cop out) in this post.
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#335508 - 04/19/06 01:48 PM Re: Busted for Soma
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When a medication is Scheduled (Class C) it's because it has been determined to have some addictive qualities. The higher the addiction potential, the higher the rating (but in scheduling the numbers go down, i.e. CV is lowest, CI is highest). Having any prescription medication without a prescription is actually a federal law. Most prescriptions have the federal warning on them that indicate this (indicating not to share). I haven't working in Pharmacy for better part of 4 years now (was a Pharm Tech for 8 years and now work in Clinical Research), so I might be a little rusty with some knowledge, for which I apologize in advance.

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#335509 - 04/19/06 01:56 PM Re: Busted for Soma
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Please follow the link for info on what is a prescription drug, and which prescription drugs contain controlled substances
http://www.drugbuyers.com/freeboard/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/183365/an/0/page/0#183365

Viagra is a prescription drug that does not contain controlled substances

Vicodin is a prescription drug that contains a controlled substance called hydrocodone
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#335510 - 04/19/06 02:14 PM Re: Busted for Soma
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Regardless of what Admin is trying to say........ individual states can and do indeed schedule some medications. Soma is one that is a schedule IV in Virginia.
See below from http://www.usdoj.gov/ndic/pubs10/10913/10913p.pdf

Reports of Soma abuse have resulted in a
number of states scheduling Soma
as a controlled substance. States that
have taken this action are Alabama,
Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia,
Hawaii, Indiana, Kentucky, Minnesota,
New Mexico, Oklahoma, Oregon, Virginia and
West Virginia. Soma is not scheduled
at the federal level. However, reports of
Soma abuse are being monitored by
the drug Enforcement Administration,
and Soma could be listed under
the Controlled Substances Act if
warranted.


Just to back up my previous post about Soma being a Scedule IV controlled substance by state law in Virginia and now as you can see the other states noted in the URL I refer to.
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#335511 - 04/19/06 03:01 PM Re: Busted for Soma
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As much as I really can't stand Limbaugh ( I used to love him, before anyone really knew him much I caught him on an AM station out of DC and loved him), then when I became a parent and Limbaugh started bashing young Chelsea Clinton and saying nasty things about her, I began to dispise him, low and behold he turned me into quite a moderate and a liberal on some levels.

However, about Limbaugh I will say this, he had (has) a problem with drug addiction. For that I have sympathy for him regardless of how much I can't stand him. One of the few and very rare side effects of very very high doses of some synthetic narcotics is loss of hearing. It happened to him and fortunately for him he is a billionaire and could afford cochlear implants.

Anyway, the point about Soma and drug schedules.

It is illegal to possess any prescription drug without a prescription. At least in most states it is. Now I have been arrested for this when I was a freshman in college, I had a prescription drug in sample bottles without a prescription. The case was dismissed because the medication was given to me by a licensed physician and as long as he charted that he gave me the samples it was called an "Oral Prescription".

Common non controlled prescriptions like celebrex for example are illegal to possess without a prescription, it is like a class 6 misdemeanor in my state.... not much more than a traffic ticket.

Possession of a controlled substance without a prescription is a felony in my state, a class 6 felony though, so not a big one.

Federally controlled drugs under schedule I are totally illegal and "have no medical use or value" according to the DEA and possess a high potential for abuse. Examples are heroin, qualude, LSD, Mescaline etc.

Schedule II controlled substances have a medical use and value but a high abuse potential. One can no longer receive a refill but must have a written prescription. Except certain emergency circumstances one can not call in a schedule II medication into a pharmacy. Examples are Oxycontin, Percocet, Ritalin, Adderall, Cocaine (in manufactured pharmaceutical form), etc.

Schedule III controlled substances have a moderate potential for abuse and generally include narcotics like hydrocodone preparations with apap, barbiturate preparations with apap like fiorinal, fioricet, tylelol #3, Tylenol #4 etc. These can be called in to a pharmacy by your doctor if needed and do not have to be followed by a written prescription (yet??).

Schedule IV controlled substances still have an abuse potential but considered non narcotic mostly and have less abuse potential then a schedule III. Such medications that are schedule IV are the benzodiazapines like valium, xanax, librium, Soma in some states, Davorcet, Talacen, Nubaine (in some states only), phentermine etc. I think Provigil is a schedule IV but don't hold me to that.

Schedule V controlled substances are usually cough preparations with codeine and other drugs like an antihistimine or perhaps a decongestant or expectorant like guifenisen (worthless). Such drugs in this category also include mild narcotics for diarhhea like lomitil, paragoric as well as robitussin with codeine etc.

There is no such thing as a schedule VI, all other prescription medications are considered to be illegal to have without a script, althouth it seems rarely enforced.

Hope this clears things up. As I said earlier some states can under some circumstances schedule a medication if they believe it has an abuse potential in their region. As noted earlier Soma and Nubaine are two medications that are Schedule IV in some states but not federally scheduled by the DEA.

http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/scheduling.html


PS: I still listen to Rush eventhough I really think he is mean spirited sometimes. While I am by no means a conservative anymore he does makes some good points and has some good information that is not partisan.


Edited by JimmyK (04/19/06 04:12 PM)
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#335512 - 04/19/06 03:21 PM Re: Busted for Soma
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Judge judy spent like 20 some years in KIDDY Court in new york. She had a reputation with Attorneys as being a Judge in Kiddy court nobody wanted to appear before.
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