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#302003 - 02/09/06 06:20 PM My order was seized by Customs
rjentprs GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 02/06/06 Posts: 1164 Loc: Mall of America	I ordered codeine from a overseas pharmacy in early December, can't remember which one but about 2 weeks later I receive a letter in the mail from U.S. Customs & Border Protection saying my order was seized and if I continue to order and I get caught there would be personal penalties or criminal prosecution. I am afraid to order from overseas pharmacy for fear of getting caught. Anybody else have this happen to them? Knowing my luck if I would order again I would get caught!!! _________________________ Sometimes the game of golf is just too difficult to endure with a golf club in your hands.
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#302004 - 02/09/06 06:23 PM Re: My order was seized by Customs
faerie GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 03/28/05 Posts: 3643	that is called a LL or love letter...
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#302005 - 02/09/06 06:24 PM Re: My order was seized by Customs
trixxie Pooh-Bah Registered: 05/23/03 Posts: 1079 Loc: ID	Those letters are meant to do just that, scare and intimidate you out of ever ordering overseas again. The letters? We(dh and I)just toss 'em. JMHO _________________________ Dream outloud
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#302006 - 02/09/06 07:39 PM Re: My order was seized by Customs
Fran458 Pooh-Bah Registered: 05/28/05 Posts: 859 Loc: RIGHT HERE n SOMETIMES THERE	Yeah thats the ole LL ... burn it , toss it , use it as butt wipe LOL !!! It would sorta help others if ya could tell us who the shipper was tho . Helps us to know who's HOT !!!! _________________________ ``` LAST DOC SAID FRANNIE YA GOTTA LIVE WIT PAIN - SHUTE I SAID YA FIRED n STUFF ```
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#302007 - 02/10/06 01:35 AM Re: My order was seized by Customs
stits GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 10/15/05 Posts: 2362 Loc: Stitsville, Virginia	Will also help others if people postings their experiences would just state their location. I mean for gosh sakes it doesn't have to be your township, but not even including your area of the country (i.e., "Southeastern U.S."; "West Coast," etc.) helps out no one at all. Not telling which IOP was used helps even less. Stits this is NOT only directed to you rj, and welcome to DrugBuyers!! _________________________ "Ignore." It's like my own little mini-ban.
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#302008 - 02/10/06 01:46 AM Re: My order was seized by Customs
LastInLine Member Registered: 01/12/06 Posts: 85 Loc: 11th Dimension	I've never had an order siezed in 5 yrs, but my time may come. If you're scared then don't order again. You can get Tramadol inside the U.S. that I personally think is better than codiene, with no customs worry. Once again this is just an opinion, and may be taken as such. Attachments _________________________ LastInLine
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#302009 - 02/10/06 03:15 AM Re: My order was seized by Customs
kreik GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 07/27/05 Posts: 1263 Loc: on the edge of the middle down...	the 11th Dimension must not be on West Coast huh?? Holly
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#302010 - 02/10/06 05:01 AM Re: My order was seized by Customs
Administrator Administrator GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 11/18/01 Posts: 6596 Loc: DrugBuyers.Com	We think you should follow the advice given to you in the letter... codeine is a controlled subsctance and importing it is only legal if you have a special permit If anyone has a seizure letter... please black out your personal info and include it as an attachment to your post... or send it to us by Fax / email... It will be very nice to see it... Thank you _________________________ >>> I welcome all PM's but please do not contact me by PM for lost or forgotten usernames or passwords. Click here to recover your UN or PW online or you can contact us via www.drugbuyers.com/help >>>> please reply to my posts and do not let me be a "thread killer" :-(
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#302011 - 02/10/06 06:06 AM Re: My order was seized by Customs
rjentprs GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 02/06/06 Posts: 1164 Loc: Mall of America	Concerning my order: It was shipped from Europe and I live in Minnesota. _________________________ Sometimes the game of golf is just too difficult to endure with a golf club in your hands.
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#302012 - 02/10/06 06:36 AM Re: My order was seized by Customs
wgh12 Board Addict Registered: 01/22/06 Posts: 276	I dont see how importing codeine for personal purposes is any more illegal that paying a US ROP 150 consult fee then 200 for 90ct meds. According to the DEA this is also very illegal, especially when it is a controlled substance. I mean I know you want to promote your site and promote using US ROPS because you offer discount with them. But some of us suffer the same problems, and cannot afford that much money. International is often many times cheaper the US. I mean I would rather get a love letter than have the DEA taking down ROPS and NROPS and letting US authorities have my name address phone number and RX records... Just my opinion, I dont mean it against you or this site...
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#302013 - 02/10/06 06:47 AM Re: My order was seized by Customs
bogside Enthusiast Registered: 11/28/04 Posts: 211 Loc: Mid Atlantic	my codeine the 12.8mg nurofen plus I get from england I have not had a problem with. I know it is low dose but I get my 6 24 pks and they arrive like clock work in 5 days on the nose. My parents are coming to visit from Ireland this month and are bringing me extra which is awesome.
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#302014 - 02/10/06 06:56 AM Re: My order was seized by Customs
slippybuck Veteran Registered: 02/03/06 Posts: 520 Loc: souther of sanity each sunrise	Quote: I dont see how importing codeine for personal purposes is any more illegal that paying a US ROP 150 consult fee then 200 for 90ct meds. According to the DEA this is also very illegal, especially when it is a controlled substance. I mean I know you want to promote your site and promote using US ROPS because you offer discount with them. But some of us suffer the same problems, and cannot afford that much money. International is often many times cheaper the US. I mean I would rather get a love letter than have the DEA taking down ROPS and NROPS and letting US authorities have my name address phone number and RX records... Just my opinion, I dont mean it against you or this site... right on, I know that I CANNOT afford the $$$ these ROP's are asking...I can BARELY cover the co-pays for my primary doc anymore, much LESS getting all my scrips filled!!! All our copays more than DOUBLED this year, don't get me wrong, I am GRATEFUL to have insurance, but HONESTLY the clients I know that are on Medical-Assistance get BETTER care than I do, and many a day I have contemplated the drastic step of being declared "disabled" (which my doc has suggested) and even getting divorced so I could be a state-dependant!!! Sad but true.... oh, but back on the TOPIC, I got a LL for an order from the SAME co., and I am in SE US, I requested a re-ship BEFORE I got my LL, and am RAPIDLY approaching the deadline to receive my order, or else I'm sure I'll be getting ANOTHER LL!! Obviously, I'm hoping they switched-up their shipper or some such, but am trying to make other arrangements, too!! Peace all~~MO _________________________ [color:"purple"] I am not afraid of the pen, or the scaffold, or the sword. I will tell the truth wherever I please. ~~Mother Jones[/color]
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#302015 - 02/10/06 07:13 AM Re: My order was seized by Customs
investor Banned: too much drama and claiming everyone is shorting him. False posts to get more meds, multiple Registered: 11/19/05 Posts: 311	ah just wipe you're butt with it, its the DEA's way of saying they took you're meds and are gonna probably ingest them themselves! Bunch of dummass's.
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#302016 - 02/10/06 07:27 AM Re: My order was seized by Customs
mizzzj Old Hand Registered: 01/31/04 Posts: 431 Loc: Town of Snooping Post Office	Quote: U.S. Customs & Border Protection saying my order was seized and if I continue to order and I get caught there would be personal penalties or criminal prosecution. Aren't LLs usually from the FDA just stating that they have confiscated a mail shipment from a foreign country? This letter sounds a little different like "they" are starting to crack down, but who knows... I don't recommend ordering USPS from overseas under any circumstances. mizzzj _________________________ Be sure your shoe laces are tied before running with scissors.
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#302017 - 02/10/06 07:28 AM Re: My order was seized by Customs
bmu Stranger Registered: 09/03/05 Posts: 15	What airport or port of entry was the letter sent from? Was it sent certified or regular mail?
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#302018 - 02/10/06 09:18 AM Re: My order was seized by Customs
stits GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 10/15/05 Posts: 2362 Loc: Stitsville, Virginia	Quote: I dont see how importing codeine for personal purposes is any more illegal that paying a US ROP 150 consult fee then 200 for 90ct meds. According to the DEA this is also very illegal, especially when it is a controlled substance. I mean I know you want to promote your site and promote using US ROPS because you offer discount with them. But some of us suffer the same problems, and cannot afford that much money. International is often many times cheaper the US. I mean I would rather get a love letter than have the DEA taking down ROPS and NROPS and letting US authorities have my name address phone number and RX records. Brave and true. But he also promotes various IOPs (the 300 Valium $100!!) banners that you see. So here we have a subforum on drug Dependence in which discussion of recovery from that dependence is not allowed, and we have an Admin advising against the very activities which his board encourages discussion of in several forums. LOL DrugBuyers.com: A study in contradiction. Yay for DrugBuyers, keep the grins a-comin'. Stits _________________________ "Ignore." It's like my own little mini-ban.
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#302019 - 02/10/06 09:20 AM Re: My order was seized by Customs
slippybuck Veteran Registered: 02/03/06 Posts: 520 Loc: souther of sanity each sunrise	Quote: What airport or port of entry was the letter sent from? Was it sent certified or regular mail? Jamaica, NY, SNAIL mail!! _________________________ [color:"purple"] I am not afraid of the pen, or the scaffold, or the sword. I will tell the truth wherever I please. ~~Mother Jones[/color]
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#302020 - 02/10/06 10:12 AM Re: My order was seized by Customs
Zachbob Newbie Registered: 11/15/04 Posts: 31 Loc: Great White North	Skippy, " I will choose a path that's clear, I will choose Freewill ". Apologies for being off topic. Zb "Peart"
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#302021 - 02/10/06 10:42 AM Re: My order was seized by Customs
LastInLine Member Registered: 01/12/06 Posts: 85 Loc: 11th Dimension	No the 11th Dimension isnt on the West Coast, nor is it near the edge of the middle down....., whatever that means. _________________________ LastInLine
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#302022 - 02/10/06 11:00 AM Re: My order was seized by Customs
slippybuck Veteran Registered: 02/03/06 Posts: 520 Loc: souther of sanity each sunrise	Quote: Brave and true. But he also promotes various IOPs (the 300 Valium $100!!) banners that you see. So here we have a subforum on drug Dependence in which discussion of recovery from that dependence is not allowed, and we have an Admin advising against the very activities which his board encourages discussion of in several forums. LOL DrugBuyers.com: A study in contraction. Yay for DrugBuyers, keep the grins a-comin'. Stits uh, I think that's contrDICtion, stits!! you know, like interDICtion, inquisition, etc....afterall, "No one expects the spanish Inquisition!!" (thank you Monty Python!!) _________________________ [color:"purple"] I am not afraid of the pen, or the scaffold, or the sword. I will tell the truth wherever I please. ~~Mother Jones[/color]
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#302023 - 02/10/06 11:54 AM Re: My order was seized by Customs
stits GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 10/15/05 Posts: 2362 Loc: Stitsville, Virginia	Damn, beat me to it. I just got a PM alerting to me it as well. Thanked her profusely, and now I'll thank you. I *always welcome* corrections to my mistakes and oversights. So thank you, Skippy, thank youuuuuuu! _________________________ "Ignore." It's like my own little mini-ban.
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#302024 - 02/10/06 12:31 PM Re: My order was seized by Customs
rjentprs GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 02/06/06 Posts: 1164 Loc: Mall of America	The letter was sent by regular mail and it came from "U.S. Customs & Protection" U.S. Dept of Homeland Security, Washington, DC. It does not say what entry point it was seized from. _________________________ Sometimes the game of golf is just too difficult to endure with a golf club in your hands.
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#302025 - 02/10/06 01:13 PM Re: My order was seized by Customs
Administrator Administrator GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 11/18/01 Posts: 6596 Loc: DrugBuyers.Com	We are not saying that it is right or wrong or that it is more legal or less legal than other things... and we are only saying that to import controlled substances you need special permits... We also suggest that if someone receives a personal warning from the "U.S. Customs & Protection - U.S. Dept of Homeland Security"... it is a good idea to consider it as serious and not just dismiss it as nothing... Stits: please do not try to find answers to every question and clarification of every contradiction :-)... it will never happen in one thread... To all: lets stay on topic... lets do things one topic at the time... Thank you for your support _________________________ >>> I welcome all PM's but please do not contact me by PM for lost or forgotten usernames or passwords. Click here to recover your UN or PW online or you can contact us via www.drugbuyers.com/help >>>> please reply to my posts and do not let me be a "thread killer" :-(
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#302026 - 02/10/06 02:31 PM Re: My order was seized by Customs
Administrator Administrator GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 11/18/01 Posts: 6596 Loc: DrugBuyers.Com	Thank you for sharing Please click on attachment to see the letter Attachments _________________________ >>> I welcome all PM's but please do not contact me by PM for lost or forgotten usernames or passwords. Click here to recover your UN or PW online or you can contact us via www.drugbuyers.com/help >>>> please reply to my posts and do not let me be a "thread killer" :-(
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#302027 - 02/10/06 02:55 PM Re: My order was seized by Customs
slippybuck Veteran Registered: 02/03/06 Posts: 520 Loc: souther of sanity each sunrise	hmmm... odd, this is EXACTLY the same one I saw...even down to the INCORRECT item "number" (90??) it ALSO contained a BAD copy of a flyer warning about overseas meds/low-quality, etc....makes me wonder who REALLY sent these!!! _________________________ [color:"purple"] I am not afraid of the pen, or the scaffold, or the sword. I will tell the truth wherever I please. ~~Mother Jones[/color]
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#302028 - 02/10/06 03:00 PM Re: My order was seized by Customs
slippybuck Veteran Registered: 02/03/06 Posts: 520 Loc: souther of sanity each sunrise	Quote: The letter was sent by regular mail and it came from "U.S. Customs & Protection" U.S. Dept of Homeland Security, Washington, DC. It does not say what entry point it was seized from. there was no postmark or stamp on the envelope??? odder & stranger... _________________________ [color:"purple"] I am not afraid of the pen, or the scaffold, or the sword. I will tell the truth wherever I please. ~~Mother Jones[/color]
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#302029 - 02/10/06 03:09 PM Re: My order was seized by Customs
Ruggie GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 03/25/04 Posts: 8800 Loc: Right Here	So they say that future attemps at importing a controlled substance can result in personal penaltys and criminal prosocution. I always wondered about that , like if someone got a lot of these letters and just disregarded them and threw them out if they would at some time catch up with someone and actually prosucute them or not, I don't know if it has ever happened, I don't use IOP's but I guess if they wanted to after seizing a few orders to one person or addy that they can if they wanted to. Interesting to say the least. _________________________ Takes a Lickin' & Keeps on Tickin'
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#302030 - 02/10/06 03:39 PM Re: My order was seized by Customs
Ruggie GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 03/25/04 Posts: 8800 Loc: Right Here	Quote: Quote: The letter was sent by regular mail and it came from "U.S. Customs & Protection" U.S. Dept of Homeland Security, Washington, DC. It does not say what entry point it was seized from. there was no postmark or stamp on the envelope??? odder & stranger... Admin, blocks out certain things when someone sends them the letter to post as an attachment, unless you are talking about a letter you got and not this attachment that admin attached. _________________________ Takes a Lickin' & Keeps on Tickin'
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#302031 - 02/10/06 04:09 PM Re: My order was seized by Customs
slippybuck Veteran Registered: 02/03/06 Posts: 520 Loc: souther of sanity each sunrise	right, Mrs. Rugrat, the one I saw had an electronic (red ink) "stamp" on the envelope, with "Jamaica, NY" as the post office it came from, I didn't mean the letter itself per se... I was just wondering where rj's ENVELOPE showed it had come from??? (usually the red cancelled stamp, right??) Peace~~MANO _________________________ [color:"purple"] I am not afraid of the pen, or the scaffold, or the sword. I will tell the truth wherever I please. ~~Mother Jones[/color]
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#302032 - 02/10/06 04:29 PM Re: My order was seized by Customs
wgh12 Board Addict Registered: 01/22/06 Posts: 276	Yup I just got a seizure notice today looks EXACTLY like that. It has a metered stamp on it that says "US OFFICIAL MAIL $300 Penalty for private use" also Chicago IL 07 FEB 2006 is where the postmark is from. (mailed from 60688) [censored] that really stinks my first sample order from BIOTRAN. Guess no more for me!!! The enigmatic sketchy snake letter!!! OOOH RISKY SCARY!!! (scanned for people who havent seen it or dont wanna click a link!!) actual letter... Also what does it mean personal penalties? Edited by wgh12 (02/10/06 07:29 PM)
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