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#293565 - 03/01/06 02:13 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality ***
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Um, I don't get how anyone can question the quality of this man's medication. I ordered the special, received the first half today.

I took about one and a half broken pills about 20 minutes ago. I'm 6'6" 285 pounds with a fairly decent tolerance to benzos. I was taking xanax for awhile but valium seems to produce more tolerable effects.

It's been 20 minutes, and I'm already feeling them. The packaging was VERY discreet and the quality is just as good, if not better, then when I get generics from the CVS pharmacy down the road.


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#293568 - 03/01/06 06:07 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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Why don't you just Shill in the Cheapscripts thread and stay out of here since you are so biased? Joseph is one of the most responsive IOP's I have ever dealt with. Unless you are trying to beat him that is, at which point I would not talk to you either. I seldom have waited more than 1 day for a reponse and this involves over 50 emails.




At the very minimum I expect an apology. I am not a Shill for Cheapscrips. If you go search my posts, you'll see that I've said that Cheapscrips appears to be sending way below par meds.

Joseph is responsive. But I can attest to the fact that I have his Vs in original blister packs still, in the new baggies and also have Cheapscrips' Vs. I need to take 4 of Cheapscrips to get the same effect of two of Joseph's baggie Vs and one of his old blister pack Vs. The baggie Vs are back from when Joseph first started putting them in baggies. Cheapscrips ships over and over again without you having to kick in 50% and the jury is still out as to whether or not Joseph was sending out phoney LLs. I told the truth about the payment methods. This new thing he put in place, but I believe is now not working this week, is very pricey. I ran through the numbers with Joseph and he agreed that it was pricey. He said that it is worthwhile for customers of his who order in excess of USD 500/month of meds from him compared to WU. I will be ordering my Vs from Cheap Argentina because of the bad press Joseph is getting on the potency of his Vs and definitely won't be placing many orders with Cheapscrips.

So. You might not have the class to apoligze, but anyone who reads this will see that I am not shilling for Cheapscrips. Do I trust Joseph? Frankly, no. Too many things have been said about being ignored by Joseph, phoney LLs and low potency Vs that cast doubt in my mind about him. I do have as much right, newbie poster, as anyone to post in this topic as anyone else. I was one of the first posters about Joseph and had high praise for him and his product a year ago. Go and look at the archives.
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#293569 - 03/01/06 06:16 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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You are full of it or have a very old stash since he has not shipped blister packs in at least 2 years. If you like I can provide the exact month and year he stopped shipping in original packaging.




I am not full of it. I have an old stash of his blister packs and have one of the first baggies of Vs he sent out. And I can also provide the date each order was placed and received. I know how long it's been since he shipped in blister packs and I remember when he offered blister packs but no guarantee that they'd arrive. He used to reship for free, as you recall.
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#293570 - 03/01/06 07:24 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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You are full of it or have a very old stash since he has not shipped blister packs in at least 2 years. If you like I can provide the exact month and year he stopped shipping in original packaging.




I am not full of it. I have an old stash of his blister packs and have one of the first baggies of Vs he sent out. And I can also provide the date each order was placed and received. I know how long it's been since he shipped in blister packs and I remember when he offered blister packs but no guarantee that they'd arrive. He used to reship for free, as you recall.




Did his prices change when he started shipping in baggies? Is he still getting blister packs and popping them out and bagging them? Or do you suppose that they are coming from a competely different source in a big old barrel?

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#293572 - 03/01/06 09:17 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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[quote What do you know of scientific experimentation? I doubt very much. I have been around here and other boards for years under different names so don't get high and mighty with your pathetic, sub-two hundred post count. Do you understand what hearsay is? You base your post largely on the posts of others, which by no means makes you an authority on J's operation. I have dealt with him nearly 50 times over the years and have an excellent rapport with him. Your mention of "fake LL's" only exemplifies this so clearly. Most people would not know a real LL from a fake, not to mention the numerous points at which your package could be intercepted. You are regurgitating many things others have said and trying to pass yourself off as a quasi-expert. Stick to what you know and order from Argentina. Best of luck…




What do I know about scientific method? Does a masters degree in Biochemistry and a year of medical school count?

This entire site is all about hearsay. People report weak Vs, phoney LLs, 50% to reship and so on. It's reporting our experiences that it's all about. Why do you feel it so important to back up Joseph? Of course I'm regurgitating what I've read. That's what this site is all about. You are hopeless. Carry on this conversation with youself. Basing my post on the posts of others? How funny. Why don't we just lock everybody else's account and have you, of thousands of posts (the result of banning, I suppose) and your 50 transactions with Joseph be the only definitive reason this website exists.

Last post on this subject. Get every last word you want in.

I no longer trust Joseph. Those are my last words.
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#293574 - 03/04/06 03:01 AM Re: Starlite Ambien quality
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Hi
Has anyone on the forum recently received poor quality ambien?
I Ordered 100 about a month ago and they were fine,but this last batch i received yesterday were rubbish,i took 70mg
and they had no affect on me whatsover!!! I have emailed him
but as yet he has not replied!! I have another 200 ambien coming soon.I will keep you posted as to the quality of them
Hope they are not rubbish like the others???
Laserguy :

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#293575 - 03/04/06 06:08 AM Re: Starlite Ambien quality
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Can you tell me the address for starlite?? Would like to take the plunge with this one and see what is really goin on!! Thanks for any help...

John

NEVER MIND I FOUND IT ON SEARCH!!! THANKS THOUGH!!!!!

JOHN


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#293576 - 03/04/06 06:21 AM Re: Starlite Ambien quality
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IN my opion you can get a tolerance from ambien, if your not somwhat tired you may not fall asleep. i Have ordered ambien from more than a few sites, never had poor quality.
india, africa, phillippines, UK, their are dozens of generic names for ambien. If they were not in a blister pack, all bets are off. Biotran are the best by far, budget medicines, 8-10 days to usa ( cc acepted) are also good.

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#293577 - 03/04/06 06:52 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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When I take over 200mg of Valium [starlite] I should have some anxiety relief. Nothing, I take back my comment on 5-7mg's. More like 1mg, if that. Pretty much garbage.




After reading posts like this I had to find out for myself. I alternate between 2 mg Rivotril and 2 mg Xanax once a day, most days of the week. I hadn't taken a valium in about a month, since taking 1 Valium didn't really do much for me. I thought this was either due to the quality of J's valium, or just as likely because of my tolerance. So one day I took 4 valiums (thinking they were equivalent to 2 mg of Xanax). I didn't really experience any anxiety release...only anxiety, because I knew that I had taken too much. After about an hour, all I could do was lay in bed and watch a movie that I can't remember now. I can't imagine taking 200 mg of Valium, probably wouldn't remember doing it, and waking up two days later. I should add, I took these on an empty stomach after a long day at work, after which I wanted to relax more than eat. I never got around to eating.

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#293578 - 03/04/06 10:40 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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Since your banned I will resond anyways, I know my meds VERY well. Sure I dont know all of Roche blueprints for there Valiums through out the world but I do know when I see a weak benzo. I had the 120 or 125 for $65 deal and the extra 20-25 were packaged a little seperately making them seem like they would be the first pills to take. I got relief from 40mg's, like I should the first time I took them but since than the rest are weak, very weak. I agree with the fellow who said 1mg per pill sounds about right. You get what you pay for.

IMO these are VERY weak and although possibly worth the price I will not order again. Ridiculously low potency.

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#293579 - 03/05/06 01:50 PM Re: Starlite Ambien quality
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Hi
Has anyone on the forum recently received poor quality ambien?
I Ordered 100 about a month ago and they were fine,but this last batch i received yesterday were rubbish,i took 70mg
and they had no affect on me whatsover!!! I have emailed him
but as yet he has not replied!! I have another 200 ambien coming soon.I will keep you posted as to the quality of them
Hope they are not rubbish like the others???
Laserguy :




I'm not doubting your experience. I've had the same experience from Biotrans on different nights all out of the same envelope. I have found that my reaction to Ambien has to do with how hyped up I am. If I'm working on a problem then take my A because I'm just about finished with the problem, heck, I could perhaps take the entire envelope full and not get sleepy. OTOH if I'm having a mellow evening, the A will have a much different effect. On those nights in which I'm hectic and have worked past my bedtime, I take a couple of Sirdalud from Healthcarepharma.com. Those guys only work for 4 hours, yet I do fall asleep and sleep like a baby. If I took extra As, I'd have a problem getting up. Obviously the As had worked, it's just that sometimes we need a little something extra. Like the blow gun they use at the zoo

Once again, I don't doubt your experience at all. You just might be getting bad batches.
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#293580 - 03/05/06 02:27 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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I did observe a common theme from other posts of yours that you base ones ability to contribute largely upon their post count. I think that alone speaks volumes for the pompous, little soul that lies within.




Guilty as charged, Your Honor. I pointed out once or twice in the last few days that some posters appeared out of the blue citing a high priced IOP they swore by or were vouching for an IOP that others, with high ordered/sent/received post counts are raising grave doubts about. This is at times the pattern of a Shill.

If you'll read my other posts, you'll see me panning my Cheapscrips Vs, statements about how to get on lots of LE lists by paying with e-gold, asking about the quality of a brand of Vs I've never heard of. If you go back further, you'll see me reporting the day I ordered, the day I received, the perceived quality of the meds I got.

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Ok, last words.




How true, how true.
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#293581 - 03/09/06 08:14 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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THAT PERSON ALSO GOT BANNED FOR MAKING THAT POST.

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#293582 - 03/09/06 09:23 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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while you are at it why dont you ban returnofwilly if you want to keep your board so unbiased.What was the problem you dont receive kick backs from cheapscrips?Now lets add all willys pro starlite posts. Also I thought it was against your Rules to be a Shill for a site?Rememeber that about not playing fair when it was in the hundreds for willygoat praising starlite and making every excuse in the book for him and now he is back on here after supposedly being permanantly banned.Also what difference does it make just what country you pst from are some off limits? Type in this url and you will see just how unbiased you try to be.
http://www.google.com/search?q=willygoat...=N&filter=0

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#293583 - 03/10/06 10:06 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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I honestly think those of you doubting the quality of these valiums are VERY heavy benzo abusers, who are most likely taking them for recreational reasons rather than to actually relieve anxiety.

As I've already stated I'm a very large man with pretty heft a tolerance to benzos from years of taking xanax. I was up to 6-8mg per during the bad times. I recently switched to valium because I can actually remember what I do when I take them.

I take 15mg twice a day of his valiums and they last all day. The do exactly what they are supposed to do, relieve anxiety, and calmn me down. In my opinion the only difference between these and local pharmacy generics is that these don't tend to last quite as long. I'll feel the full on effects of them for about 3-4 hours then they taper off.

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#293585 - 03/10/06 01:47 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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I honestly think those of you doubting the quality of these valiums are VERY heavy benzo abusers, who are most likely taking them for recreational reasons rather than to actually relieve anxiety.






That nice. Let's see what the Administrator thinks about your post. I do not abuse benzos. I take as many as needed for sleep. If they have a V cut out of them, that amounts to all of one. If they are from are Joeseph in blister pack (still have some around), need 1. If Joesph a few months after he started sending them out of the blister pack (I still have those) then 2. If cheapscrips, I need 4+. I'll tell you what the ones from a cheap argentine company I ordered from a few days ago require to help be get shuteye when they arrive.

Recreational? You bet. I re-create myself each night by getting sleep. Abuser?
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#293586 - 03/11/06 07:05 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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you're all noob's if you think the quality of the original roche valium is not as well as others, someone heard about benzoe-tolerance? the first ones are burning hard, but if you take it constantly for months, you will experience what i mean. give up consuming benzoes for half a year and you'll see...

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#293587 - 03/11/06 04:07 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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I am no noob concerning benzo I have been scripted them for over 5 yrs. I have no problem what so ever saying the quality is weak, absolutely. They dont even touch my prescription to my other valiums. Yea I might have a high tolerence but I still know whats whats and these are of low potency. End of story. I am just telling you MY experience, others react differently to benzos. But 6-8 of those roches?, cough, are comparable to one Barr brand 10mg valium.

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#293588 - 03/11/06 04:26 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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We made an order for the 300 val special in mid december and found them to be virtually worthless,people on here come up with all kinds of excuses for it,shipping conditions,heat ,cold, and whatever. I find it amusing that meds that are shipped from india ,argentia or where ever are subjet to these same conditions with no ill effect. Also from the looks of the poll most people chose not to answer the third question or dont know how many the ordered which makes me wonder about the validity of the poll in itself.

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#293589 - 03/11/06 05:00 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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It kind of sounds like you like reading my posts as much as I like your avatar.You have a choice don't read them if they upset you.I dont have that option I still have to see it as I scroll a page.

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#293590 - 03/11/06 07:25 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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I just recieved part of a large order from starlite and I am satisfied with the quality of the v's so far and I do have a somewhat heavy benzo tolerence. I might be lucky and got a good batch or something to that effect but all my business with starlite in the past has brought me quality product.

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#293591 - 03/14/06 11:37 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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I have made several orders of Joe's V special, and always found them, as well as J's service, to be on par with the legendary `beebster.

Both are no-nonsense easy to work with people, and both always come through.

I have not ordered from Joe in several months (no need) but the quality of the 10mg V I got at that time was great.

I use Klonopin daily (prescribed by local brick-and-mortar) but I like to take drug holidays now and then (ideally twice a week, its usually more like once) and sometimes I will do a half drug holiday by eating a V instead of a K. I find that on days when I do this, I am more groggy from one of J's V's than from 1 or 2 mg of Klonopin.

If I'm not mistaken, Valium is somewhat more hypnotic than Klonopin, and this might explain it. I just wanted to point out that even as a regular Klon (and occasional Xanax) user, I get a good potent effect from Joe's V.

I was 16 when I got my first 5mg Val `script - that was more than 2 decades ago now, so I'm not entirely unfamilar with benzos. I cannot begin to compete in sensitivity to the folks posting that J's V is like x mg "real US" -Val, but it might just be that you folks are much better tuned than I am. I can't tell a $50 glass of wine from a $5 (usually) so I can't make a fair mg to mg comparison of Joe's V's, but I can say they are, in my humble opinion, well worth the money.

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#293592 - 03/16/06 05:32 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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I honestly think those of you doubting the quality of these valiums are VERY heavy benzo abusers, who are most likely taking them for recreational reasons rather than to actually relieve anxiety.






That nice. Let's see what the Administrator thinks about your post. I do not abuse benzos. I take as many as needed for sleep. If they have a V cut out of them, that amounts to all of one. If they are from are Joeseph in blister pack (still have some around), need 1. If Joesph a few months after he started sending them out of the blister pack (I still have those) then 2. If cheapscrips, I need 4+. I'll tell you what the ones from a cheap argentine company I ordered from a few days ago require to help be get shuteye when they arrive.

Recreational? You bet. I re-create myself each night by getting sleep. Abuser?




Where does the truth lay (lie?). I want to find out what the deal is. I asked Joseph if he's switched suppliers or is buying valium by the bucket full, and he told me that he has a girl that pops valium out of the blister packs all day, so it's the same stuff. Poor girl. So I just placed an order of his valium, in blister packs, at my own risk of seizure. I'll to some double blind testing on myself and my friends, and will see if there's a significant, or noticable difference. I know there are a million factors to consider, but hopefully I'll be able to bring some new info to this timeless debate.

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#293594 - 03/17/06 08:34 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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That has to be the worst job ever--blister pack pill popper!

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