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#739378 - 08/01/08 05:45 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality *** [Re: psychoBlonde]
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My opinion about the starlite valium is to find a better source for brand name.
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#788614 - 10/21/08 07:32 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality [Re: Oxy80]
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since they DONT take anymore new customers doesnt that make this a email source now?

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#788616 - 10/21/08 07:37 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality [Re: mnwild1]
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 Originally Posted By: mnwild1
since they DONT take anymore new customers doesnt that make this a email source now?


No, they have a legit website. We can talk about them. Just ask the owner of starlite.com that you want to place an order. They want your cash, so they'll probably except you \:\)
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#788712 - 10/21/08 10:20 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality [Re: PinkDiva]
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LOL! Im sure they would.

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#800272 - 11/08/08 04:50 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality [Re: mnwild1]
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roches they sell aren't real roches and have [censored] all diaz in em.

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#875925 - 04/15/09 06:16 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality [Re: cadillac555]
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Can someone point me to the direction of this "Beebster" so many are talking about?
thanks, moving

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#875975 - 04/15/09 07:22 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality [Re: movingsram]
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 Originally Posted By: movingsram
Can someone point me to the direction of this "Beebster" so many are talking about?
thanks, moving


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#876780 - 04/17/09 11:08 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality [Re: Kryton]
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thanks or our response Kryton. If things change and Beebster makes another appearance, please PM me!

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#877547 - 04/19/09 06:52 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality [Re: movingsram]
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Has anyone else had any recent experience with their 150 V's special unblistered? As I am thinking of placing an order for them.

Thanks..


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#877607 - 04/19/09 11:00 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality [Re: clarkey00]
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Yes, my recent experience was that 150 tabs 10mg un-blistered tabs is equipotent to 30 tabs of 10mg or 60 tabs of 5mg or 150 tabs of 2mg of Amerikan generics. Which makes mathematical logic that you would be getting 1.25mg tabs dyed blue. Go for the blistered. They really are 10mgs. Yes, a bit more expensive; but if you do the math; you are saving on the blistered product.
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#878593 - 04/21/09 01:36 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality [Re: NotBillGates]
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 Originally Posted By: NotBillGates
Yes, my recent experience was that 150 tabs 10mg un-blistered tabs is equipotent to 30 tabs of 10mg or 60 tabs of 5mg or 150 tabs of 2mg of Amerikan generics. Which makes mathematical logic that you would be getting 1.25mg tabs dyed blue. Go for the blistered. They really are 10mgs. Yes, a bit more expensive; but if you do the math; you are saving on the blistered product.


Thanks for the info NBG.

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#878837 - 04/22/09 12:00 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality [Re: NotBillGates]
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 Originally Posted By: NotBillGates
Yes, my recent experience was that 150 tabs 10mg un-blistered tabs is equipotent to 30 tabs of 10mg or 60 tabs of 5mg or 150 tabs of 2mg of Amerikan generics. Which makes mathematical logic that you would be getting 1.25mg tabs dyed blue. Go for the blistered. They really are 10mgs. Yes, a bit more expensive; but if you do the math; you are saving on the blistered product.


So are the un-blistered valiums dyed?? I was just about to get some of them!!

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#878867 - 04/22/09 03:05 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality [Re: jkn8]
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My goodness,that's a pretty poor percentage,isn't it?I don't know what the price is for the generics,but it would have to be very low to make up for the lack of potency,wouldn't it?

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#879069 - 04/22/09 12:43 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality [Re: sebright]
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I don't believe that they are bunk at all or dyed. I have tested both, no difference. The hotter the country it is delivered to,the more humid they will get and i believe the unblistered have been affected by this on a few peoples orders. Especially in hot countries.Valium's potency is affected by humidity and heat, i believe this is why we get mixed reviews on the unblistered Roche V's.

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#879233 - 04/22/09 05:14 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality [Re: cadillac555]
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Hey guys, my order of valium was place on the 30th of march and here it is aprill 22 and still nothing in the mail, not even from customs. Starlite assures me that usps is unpredictable and that i should recieve my package shortly, all im asking is this usual or normal since this is my first time ordering with them?

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#879312 - 04/22/09 07:56 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality [Re: johndoe0307]
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 Originally Posted By: johndoe0307
Hey guys, my order of valium was place on the 30th of march and here it is aprill 22 and still nothing in the mail, not even from customs. Starlite assures me that usps is unpredictable and that i should recieve my package shortly, all im asking is this usual or normal since this is my first time ordering with them?


In all the posts I have read (and I follow the starliterx threads religiously) I have never read many people not to receive eventually, even after posting like you have above you would see another post a few days later saying they finally received.

Maybe 1 or 2 posts out of thousands and thousands have said it never turned up or didnt report it turning up after that. I would not worry too much, it will probably turn up in a week or so and is just delayed by crappy international postal workers being lazy bums. I am 100% confident he ships out every package when he says he does, if not it will go out the day after he told you (or the post office in his country take their time stamping it and shipping it out of the country).

If you are one of the unlucky people not to receive I would be shocked as its so very rare for this IOP and his threads. For anyone that want to contradict me, please find all posts where someone did not receive ... and make sure you dont see a post after saying they finally got it.

As for the unblistered Valium Quality, I find them fine doing 10mg a day, which is what I have reduced my tollerance to now ... originally I thought they perhaps felt like doing a 6mg pill in strength and found it hard to adjust but now I am on 1 pill a day I am used to it when at one point I was on 40mg a day from other well estaplished IOP's ... if they are really 1-2mg like NBG says his batch was then I have been conned by every IOP I have ever ordered from and feel great being addicted to such a low dose of benzo's. I should be able to withdraw after couple of weeks on splitting a pill with hardly any symptoms.

But somehow I doubt it ... I need these pills to function correctly.


Edited by Kryton (04/22/09 07:57 PM)
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#879837 - 04/23/09 07:40 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality [Re: cadillac555]
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Actually guys, my order got seized by customs, that really sucks, do you know if good ol jim has a good reship policy, i cant believe out of all the good times that my first time doing this i get a siezure ahh.

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#879985 - 04/24/09 07:24 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality [Re: jkn8]
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Hi All: R U discussing "starliterx? I've gone to their site for months and always get "registration closed"!! What's the problem?

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#881239 - 04/27/09 08:40 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality [Re: meercat]
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 Originally Posted By: meercat
Hi All: R U discussing "starliterx? I've gone to their site for months and always get "registration closed"!! What's the problem?



The problem is that registration is closed. If you ever ordered from him before, email him and he will give you your old username and password no problem. Other than that, I know that there are people willing to pass along their info, but me being afraid-y cat, I'm not one of those people. Sorry \:\(

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#881366 - 04/28/09 09:57 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality [Re: bluebee1227]
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Thanks for the reply BlueBee. Now I don't know where to go from here. I'm not very pc savvy!!

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#885642 - 05/11/09 01:18 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality [Re: clarkey00]
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 Originally Posted By: clarkey00
Has anyone else had any recent experience with their 150 V's special unblistered? As I am thinking of placing an order for them.

Thanks..



Do NOT waste your money. The fact that there are so many threads questioning the quality should tell you something

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#885643 - 05/11/09 01:19 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality [Re: RochesPlease]
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 Originally Posted By: RochesPlease
I don't believe that they are bunk at all or dyed. I have tested both, no difference. The hotter the country it is delivered to,the more humid they will get and i believe the unblistered have been affected by this on a few peoples orders. Especially in hot countries.Valium's potency is affected by humidity and heat, i believe this is why we get mixed reviews on the unblistered Roche V's.

Roche


Then why bother?

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#888044 - 05/19/09 02:33 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality [Re: clarkey00]
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 Originally Posted By: clarkey00
Has anyone else had any recent experience with their 150 V's special unblistered? As I am thinking of placing an order for them.

Thanks..



Don't want to speak badly about srx but I just rec'd my unblistered and I was a little disappointed. Had a lot of breakage. The quality seems mixed. When I took one last night it felt at least close to 5 mgs (I only take half at a time) but today didn't seem to feel anything. If I order again I'll definitely go for blistered...which I've tried before. May try another intl. pharm next time.

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#888054 - 05/19/09 02:54 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality [Re: bluebee1227]
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Do NOT waste your money. The fact that there are so many threads questioning the quality should tell you something


I think that true of everyones generic Valium. A big percentage of posts in the last few years are always about the changing quality of this medication, from week to week, and IOP to IOP.

I would say three years ago they were always the same quality, now there are too many generics and manufactures to know what your getting from order to order.

I guess the blister packs may be more consistant, but then again all other Benzos from IOP's seem to be more conststant in quality.

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#888058 - 05/19/09 02:57 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality [Re: Strawberry]
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Are starlite's Roche 10s unblistered not brand?

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#888072 - 05/19/09 03:29 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality [Re: tem33]
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 Originally Posted By: tem33
Are starlite's Roche 10s unblistered not brand?


They are Pakistani Roche branded Valiums (blue pills with ROCHE 10 stamped on one side and score the other ... actually you can see the picture on the website if you have access). They look the exactly the same as the blistered Valium's, but admittedly are degraded medicines. I would say they are around 6mg in strength but at the price he is selling it, its still worth it to me IMHO.

150 x 6mg = 900mg Diazepam for $110 unblistered.
vs
80 x 10mg = 800mg Diazepam for $110 blistered.
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#888148 - 05/19/09 06:32 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality [Re: Kryton]
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So in your opinion, why do you think the unblistered valiums have decreased potency? Possibly expiration date expired or heat or cold exposure?

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#888169 - 05/19/09 08:00 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality [Re: tem33]
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 Originally Posted By: tem33
So in your opinion, why do you think the unblistered valiums have decreased potency? Possibly expiration date expired or heat or cold exposure?


Could be any of the above ... or many other possiblities not mentioned too. Personally I dont think drugs that pass their expiry date degrade that much if kept in the correct conditions. My proof, 1-2 years ago I tried a generic 20mg Temazepam tablet that I found in my Dad's medicine cabinet and was prescribed to him a long time ago. It had an expiry date in the year 1985 (the bottle was faded and very hard to read but think I did make out the date of 1985 on it, although could have been 1986, 1995 or 1996).

It was the best Temazepam I have ever tried for sleep. Much better than any of the 30mg Restoril that I have seen and bought around the internet, although I have to admit another factor ... when I took that generic Temazepam tablet I had no tollerance to benzo where as when I have taken 30mg Restoril I had been doing Diazepam daily for a while.

I would guess the heat in the Phillipines, the way how the medicine was stored and where Jim gets his source from are the cause of degradation of these valium's.

All I know is they still work, they have a long half life (I can skip days on it even though I have been on Diazepam for over a year) and are cheaper than anyone else around offers. My 6mg guess is based on personal emperical evidence from switching from other products, which were gauged against a fresh Diazepam table in comparison to them.


Edited by Kryton (05/19/09 08:01 PM)
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#888216 - 05/20/09 01:25 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality [Re: Kryton]
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 Originally Posted By: Kryton
 Originally Posted By: tem33
So in your opinion, why do you think the unblistered valiums have decreased potency? Possibly expiration date expired or heat or cold exposure?


Could be any of the above ... or many other possiblities not mentioned too. Personally I dont think drugs that pass their expiry date degrade that much if kept in the correct conditions. My proof, 1-2 years ago I tried a generic 20mg Temazepam tablet that I found in my Dad's medicine cabinet and was prescribed to him a long time ago. It had an expiry date in the year 1985 (the bottle was faded and very hard to read but think I did make out the date of 1985 on it, although could have been 1986, 1995 or 1996).

It was the best Temazepam I have ever tried for sleep. Much better than any of the 30mg Restoril that I have seen and bought around the internet, although I have to admit another factor ... when I took that generic Temazepam tablet I had no tollerance to benzo where as when I have taken 30mg Restoril I had been doing Diazepam daily for a while.

I would guess the heat in the Phillipines, the way how the medicine was stored and where Jim gets his source from are the cause of degradation of these valium's.

All I know is they still work, they have a long half life (I can skip days on it even though I have been on Diazepam for over a year) and are cheaper than anyone else around offers. My 6mg guess is based on personal emperical evidence from switching from other products, which were gauged against a fresh Diazepam table in comparison to them.


They may be equally as potent to US 10 mg. But, i tried one of my CVS pharm generics the other night and couldn't tell a difference between Jims and CVS generics. These were consecutive nights. I am curious to try the blistered now...

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#889513 - 05/25/09 08:39 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality [Re: jkn8]
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Save your money. I bought the "Roche" blister pack 10 mg v's & they're worthless. It's not a tolerance issue, I only use something once in a while to fall asleep after a stressful day. These went in the trash.
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