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#293595 - 03/17/06 05:29 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality ***
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As far as the quality of J's V's go, you and one or two like you that obviously had bad experiences wih J, need to move one. I just received his product today and it worked just fine. Then again, I was prepared to give an accurate estimate and not trash him as a few seem to do whenever given the chance and regardless of the quality of his meds.




You accuse me of being a peddler. You say that people who had bad expereince need to move on? I'm sorry, but you're sounding like the peddler. The purpose of this board is to provide feedback to each other. Your happy experience is duly noted. The unhappy experiences of others should also be duly noted.

Now how about you and I make a deal? You stop wasting space by attacking my posts as being biased against Joe (I am not, I am questioning him) and stop acting like anyone who expresses doubt about Joe is being disloyal to God and Country? The more you post about the wonders of Joe the more motivated I feel to post that Joe appears to not be all sweetness and light. We're wasting space and peoples' time.
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#293596 - 03/17/06 06:17 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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That has to be the worst job ever--blister pack pill popper!




It's fun for the fist 20 pills. After 10000 you can get some serious hand problems. She may have to start popping pain meds out of blister packs. Look what we're we're part of. Pill popping sweatshops, just so we don't have to pay for big pharma's big profits. We're terrible. I hope J pays his employees fairly. Judging by his business practice, i imagine he's fair.

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#293597 - 03/29/06 10:27 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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Reminds me of the episode of the Flintstone's when Fred is perusing the want-ads, "wanted: person with skinny fingers to stuff cotton into bottles..." and then further along "wanted: person with skinny fingers to remove cotton from bottles." Both of which Wilma stated Fred's fingers were too fat for. Heartless wench.
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#293598 - 03/29/06 01:50 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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They came quick and well packaged but I have to say thumbs down. They do make you sleepy but have none of the relaxing effect that they should.

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#293599 - 03/29/06 01:53 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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I haven't had a benzo in months, sorry but they're no good. They do make you sleepy but thats it.

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#293600 - 03/29/06 01:58 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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Can you direct me to a site that sells the real thing. I wish I would of read this post before I bought them. At least I didn't waste to much money. No wonder he won't take credit cards anymore.

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#293601 - 03/29/06 02:43 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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They came quick and well packaged but I have to say thumbs down. They do make you sleepy but have none of the relaxing effect that they should.




If you are getting sleepy I would think that would be similiar to being relaxed. I can't go to sleep without being relaxed. I have used Joseph several times and always have been pleased with quality of the meds. If people aren't satisfied find another source. Beebster is back and got a special on valium. Check him out if you don't like Starlite.

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#293602 - 03/29/06 03:56 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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Who is beebster?
Have you tried his xanax or ativan. I've been on alot of pain meds from a accident, maybe they're interfering with the effects. Seems like alot of people have the same complaint.
I disagree, being sleepy isn't the same effect as you should get from a benzo. You should feel relaxed with no anxiety. If you try to worry about something your unable to. I still had anxiety with starlites valiums although I did feel sleepy but it was after a few hours of watching TV. Valiums should take 40 minutes to take effect.


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#293603 - 03/29/06 04:48 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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They came quick and well packaged but I have to say thumbs down. They do make you sleepy but have none of the relaxing effect that they should.




If you are getting sleepy I would think that would be similiar to being relaxed. I can't go to sleep without being relaxed. I have used Joseph several times and always have been pleased with quality of the meds. If people aren't satisfied find another source. Beebster is back and got a special on valium. Check him out if you don't like Starlite.




I'd imagine she'd have a special considering the seizure rate. Send your name and address to this location an boys in blue (US) will hand delivery your package to you...

Interesting...shipping 500 out to you 50 at a time. Wonder what your letter carrier is going to think, you getting 10 letters from Costa Rica.


Edited by Browser (03/29/06 05:02 PM)
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#293604 - 03/29/06 10:51 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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I am so sick of being ripped off. Is using a US supplier easy? I've always thought that they'd be like going to the doctor. My doctors wouldn't give me a valium if my life depended on it. I guess I'd have to have a near death experience for them to give me anything but anti-depressents. They'll give you those forever.

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#293605 - 03/30/06 12:34 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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Interesting...shipping 500 out to you 50 at a time. Wonder what your letter carrier is going to think, you getting 10 letters from Costa Rica.



I agree that this looks fairly suspect from the receivers point of view, but from having talked to several letter carriers I have concluded 2 things---a)these people deliver alot of mail---and b)they really don't give a rat's [censored].
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#293606 - 03/30/06 04:38 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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I am so sick of being ripped off. Is using a US supplier easy? I've always thought that they'd be like going to the doctor. My doctors wouldn't give me a valium if my life depended on it. I guess I'd have to have a near death experience for them to give me anything but anti-depressents. They'll give you those forever.



Look for another doctor, mate!

I had success and found a doctor, who describes all that and I only have to go to his secretary girl and five minutes later I have the reciept.
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#293607 - 03/30/06 06:51 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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The whole shipping 50 at a time is why I am not ordering from Beeb at this moment. Don't get me wrong-great place to go but in my opinion that is way many out of country packages for me. I live in a very rural area where that might get some attention from my mailman and everyone else that handled the package before him.

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#293608 - 03/31/06 04:48 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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This is really true. Benzos are not difficult to get a local practitioner to prescribe. Three out of four might not, but the fourth will be easy.

I was written 2mg Klonopin when I told the doctor that I wanted to quit SSRIs. I told him that I was eating half a Paxil and after three days I was climbing the walls, and he prescribed Klonopin to help me quit. The next doctor I went to saw that I had been taking Klonopin and told me I should wean from it and move to Valium if I could - bingo, Klonopin and Valium both.

A bottle of 60 10mg generic Valium cost me $11 at the local chain pharmacy (without insurance), so the local doctor prices on Valium are less than even Starlite's. A bottle of 60 2mg Klonopin was $70 though, so that one was more expensive than online.

This doesn't account for the cost of going to the doctor in the first place.



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Look for another doctor, mate!

I had success and found a doctor, who describes all that and I only have to go to his secretary girl and five minutes later I have the reciept.



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#293609 - 03/31/06 07:35 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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This is really true. Benzos are not difficult to get a local practitioner to prescribe. Three out of four might not, but the fourth will be easy.

I was written 2mg Klonopin when I told the doctor that I wanted to quit SSRIs. I told him that I was eating half a Paxil and after three days I was climbing the walls, and he prescribed Klonopin to help me quit. The next doctor I went to saw that I had been taking Klonopin and told me I should wean from it and move to Valium if I could - bingo, Klonopin and Valium both.

A bottle of 60 10mg generic Valium cost me $11 at the local chain pharmacy (without insurance), so the local doctor prices on Valium are less than even Starlite's. A bottle of 60 2mg Klonopin was $70 though, so that one was more expensive than online.

This doesn't account for the cost of going to the doctor in the first place.




I agree.

The doctors need the money and they need the people who come to them.

Benzos are the most described medications in the world and in our country too, so there must be doctors who describe it.
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#293610 - 04/01/06 12:03 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT THIS, DO YOU HAVE TO SEE A DOCTOT FIRST, OR CAN TOU GO TO PHARNACIST

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#293611 - 04/01/06 10:30 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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I'm not absolutely positive (so I shouldn't try to respond, but here I go) but I don't think a pharmacist can write prescriptions for scheduled drugs.

I hope someone will correct me here, but I think that there ARE non-doctors that can write for some meds - medical assistants or nurses of some sort might be able to write prescriptions for less "dangerous" meds.

You cannot just walk into a pharmacy (in the USA anyway) and ask the pharmacist for Valium. It isn't that difficult to get from a doctor, but I think that if you asked a pharmacist for it, s/he would either expect to see a prescription or a gun.

Although this probably isn't the proper thread to discuss seeing a brick-and-mortar doctor, it is a realistic option for a lot of us that use benzos to get through the day. If your benzo of choice is just Valium or Librium, you *will* find a doctor to prescribe it (granted you might spend a few hundred bucks in the process, but the pills are a lot less expensive locally, and you get the added benefit of absolute legality, assuming you aren't double-dipping - find the one doctor you like and stick with them once you do).

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#293612 - 04/01/06 11:23 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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I am so sick of being ripped off. Is using a US supplier easy? I've always thought that they'd be like going to the doctor. My doctors wouldn't give me a valium if my life depended on it. I guess I'd have to have a near death experience for them to give me anything but anti-depressents. They'll give you those forever.




Sounds like we see the same doctor. Its funny my medical file is as thick as a dictionary and proven chronic pain with serious medical problems and they always want you on anti-depressents. I asked once why? I was told it will help with the pain. I said sure and came home and put them in the junk drawer. I could not agree with you more.
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#293613 - 04/01/06 10:50 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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I'm not absolutely positive (so I shouldn't try to respond, but here I go) but I don't think a pharmacist can write prescriptions for scheduled drugs.

I hope someone will correct me here, but I think that there ARE non-doctors that can write for some meds - medical assistants or nurses of some sort might be able to write prescriptions for less "dangerous" meds.

You cannot just walk into a pharmacy (in the USA anyway) and ask the pharmacist for Valium. It isn't that difficult to get from a doctor, but I think that if you asked a pharmacist for it, s/he would either expect to see a prescription or a gun.

Although this probably isn't the proper thread to discuss seeing a brick-and-mortar doctor, it is a realistic option for a lot of us that use benzos to get through the day. If your benzo of choice is just Valium or Librium, you *will* find a doctor to prescribe it (granted you might spend a few hundred bucks in the process, but the pills are a lot less expensive locally, and you get the added benefit of absolute legality, assuming you aren't double-dipping - find the one doctor you like and stick with them once you do).




I agree with you about finding a doctor for benzos. You may not get it right on the first or second visit but you will. After you do find a doctor, life will be so much easier and you will save alot of money as well.

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#293614 - 04/02/06 05:19 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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I agree with you about finding a doctor for benzos. You may not get it right on the first or second visit but you will. After you do find a doctor, life will be so much easier and you will save alot of money as well.



I agree too with you and trank and all the others.
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#293615 - 04/02/06 09:15 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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I'm not absolutely positive (so I shouldn't try to respond, but here I go) but I don't think a pharmacist can write prescriptions for scheduled drugs.

I hope someone will correct me here, but I think that there ARE non-doctors that can write for some meds - medical assistants or nurses of some sort might be able to write prescriptions for less "dangerous" meds.

You cannot just walk into a pharmacy (in the USA anyway) and ask the pharmacist for Valium. It isn't that difficult to get from a doctor, but I think that if you asked a pharmacist for it, s/he would either expect to see a prescription or a gun.

Although this probably isn't the proper thread to discuss seeing a brick-and-mortar doctor, it is a realistic option for a lot of us that use benzos to get through the day. If your benzo of choice is just Valium or Librium, you *will* find a doctor to prescribe it (granted you might spend a few hundred bucks in the process, but the pills are a lot less expensive locally, and you get the added benefit of absolute legality, assuming you aren't double-dipping - find the one doctor you like and stick with them once you do).



Funny, with a prescription or a gun, lol!

In my country only doctors can write a prescription.

But I know countries, like Italy and Thailand, where I got Valium in a drugstore, no doctor, no prescription, I just walked in, (Thailand) fore 2 cent a piece, blue Valiums 10 mg and they were strong and good.

In Italy I got Valium from the pharmacist girl without a receipt, lol.

She told me with a smile, that I need a reciept, but then she gave me the Original Valium for 1,50 Dollar a box.

There are countries on this earth where you get all this in a pharmacia without a prescription and the benzos are very cheap, 2 or 3 Dollars for 50 pieces.
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#293616 - 04/03/06 03:30 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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My friend got the 300 Valium special, and I have taken 2.5 mg generic Valium before for muscle spasms, and I believe these (Starlite) were of adequate quality. I know for a fact they were real, but perhaps in transit they were exposed to extreme temperatures or humidity.


This is just an estimate, but the ones he got were at least of 8-10mg potency per "10mg" pill. Blue/Roche.

I would highly recommend Starlite, they are reliable and their good are real. They can't really help it if the mail system leaves the envelope on the back of a blistering hot truck for six hours.

Cheers,
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#293617 - 04/04/06 11:26 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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If my next package of vals from Joseph is anything like the numerous orders I have recieved from him in the past I will be a happy man. The rivotrils from him are also very good. But I have a question. Has anyone tried Joseph's ativan? I'm am sure they are good but just wanted to know before I get them in the mail. I ordered them already...just anticipation I suppose.

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#293618 - 04/04/06 09:14 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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After a lengthy period away because of tech work, I'm finally home & able to re-generate back into what I personally consider one the most informative sites in this regard. Have met alot of helpful people here, & learned alot as well.
But now to the point at hand... after seeing the topic of this thread I just HAD to respond. It's been almost a year since I placed my last order with SL. Admitidly skeptical after reading all the posts... I figurerd what the hell. Never has let me down before.
Plaved an order for the "smurfberry 10"...
order was shipped on the 20th... received it on the 3rd... & most inportantly... excellent shipping, communication, & packaging! And above ALL>> TOP-NOTCH quality & strength!
Can't really spequlate on how others r deriving their negative attitudes towards Joe... Who knows.....
"mabey they gotta him confuse with another Joe." LMAO"

Have a god one all, & take care,
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#293619 - 04/04/06 09:40 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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My friend got the 300 Valium special, and I have taken 2.5 mg generic Valium before for muscle spasms, and I believe these (Starlite) were of adequate quality. I know for a fact they were real, but perhaps in transit they were exposed to extreme temperatures or humidity.


This is just an estimate, but the ones he got were at least of 8-10mg potency per "10mg" pill. Blue/Roche.

I would highly recommend Starlite, they are reliable and their good are real. They can't really help it if the mail system leaves the envelope on the back of a blistering hot truck for six hours.

Cheers,
savec0re




But my Cheap Argentina Meds sat for a much longer time on the way to Austin, TX, where it's almost Summer weather. And they're potent as heck. Let's make excuses for Joe because we can't admit we're potentially dealing with the wrong IOP.
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#293620 - 04/04/06 11:00 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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All IOP orders are subject to the same conditions starlite's are and I have yet to receive valiums as weak as his.Factor in how many of hi you have to take and his 300 deal is one big rip off,if you even receieve your order and not a phony LL.

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#293621 - 04/05/06 06:07 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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This really is amazing to me, I've only received one LL from J and it was as far as I could tell the genuine article, and J replaced it right away. The replacement came in fine.

The quality of his meds has never been an issue for me. As a daily benzo user, I might not have the most refined benzo palette, but I dare say that I know bunk from V, and his special is not bunk.

I am not arguing with people who say otherwise, I have no idea what the situation is. I have no inside information that could shed light on why some people are swearing that his meds are lower quality and why I find them to be perfectly fine and the best deal in town.

You folks here on DB *know* your stuff, and I believe you to be honest by and large. It is just that your honest opinions on the subject conflict with my personal (subjective) opinion.

This isn't an issue I'm going to resolve one way or another to my own satisfaction, but since I have a `script for Val now, I don't sweat it. The `script with no insurance is still a lot cheaper than even J's prices (~$10/60 10mg) but his other meds (Klonopin in particular) is much less expensive than my local pharm, and the quality of both is equal, IMHO.

So I'm not arguing with anybody, I'm just confused. My normal state, actually.

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#293622 - 04/05/06 10:59 AM Re: Starlite Valium Quality *DELETED*
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#293623 - 04/05/06 02:24 PM Re: Starlite Valium Quality
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Wow cool I have been considering getting some of the sublingual, how do you like it? Does it take effect quickly?

I agree about having backups - it would be bad to suddenly not have access to something, so I'm one of those people who buys certain few meds based upon their expiration date - if I have enough Klonopin to last me until 4/2008 taking 1 a day, I'll be a happy camper. And I do, thanks to people like J.

I agree about people not wanting to go to doctors for some things, too. I do it when I have to, but when I know what the problem is and how to fix it, I do. If I need a biopsy done or something like that, a doctor is the way to go. If benzos have been making my life livable for years (both with and without doctors) then I don't necessarily need the doctor's advice, I just need (want) the pills.

To step slightly off-topic for a moment, I was in the pharmacy filling a `script for phenobarbitol (our dog has seizures, so she takes phenobarb) and I happened to ask the pharmacist if the other newer barbs like Tuinal and Seconal were still made or if they were C-I. She gave me the craziest look and told me they were "special order" C-II. I *almost* jokingly asked her if she wanted to buy any. (I have no idea where to get those kinds of drugs and I don't care, I just wanted to see the look on her face...)

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I got a prescription for Lorazepam sublingual 2,5 mg from my local doctor (without insurance), and I paid ca. 24 $ for 50 pieces in my local pharmacy.

A prescription for Diazepam I get always (without insurance) and I pay ca. 15 $ for 50 pieces.

This is all much cheaper and safer than to order over the Internet.

But it is good to have Joseph (Starlite) and other International Pharmacies too.

Sometimes doctors dont want to subscribe it and they want you to take antideprissants, which are good too, but in emergency situations, benzos help better.

The laws can change, or whatever, or you need more, for safety reasons, than the doctor wants to subscribe, then it is good that there are International pharmacies like Starlite and others.

Some people dont want to go to their local doctor and they order over the Internet, which is o.k. too in my humble opinion.



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