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Taken by the DEA or sold to other sites.

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...How can a physician properly treat you via the telephone?

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Yes, this is an old road, but as long as there are new people logging in to the site daily, I think it's good to rehash for their benefit and allow them to participate in the discussion. Sure, they can read the old posts, don't know about you but I learn better by discussion, not just reading. JMO, tho..

If many CP patients were being "properly treated" by their face to face physicians, they wouldn't have to turn to telemedicine.

Face to face doesn't equal proper treatment -- there are too many people getting substandard treatment. I realize that there are recreational users that make it tough for people with legitimate needs, but you must admit that certain federal agencies have made it very difficult for many decent doctors who are now afraid to properly prescribe. I can't see where I necessarily blame them, but there's where it often becomes necessary for us to walk that thin line (or, walk the plank... same thing!). People in severe pain are generally willing to do just about anything to stop it.

I'm suddenly reminded of my now-former dentist, who gave me a complex root canal and sent me home with instructions to take Advil.

Advil! For God's sake!

As far as a doctor treating properly via the telephone, I believe 100% that there should be medical records involved. And more than a two-minute conversation should be taking place. He/she should be asking the right questions, and listening carefully to the answers. When I was using ROPs, there was a doctor who not only listened carefully, but also offered suggestions for alternative herbal remedies in addition to the medication. I found that to be refreshing... he was open for questions and didn't seem to be rushing to get me off the phone and on to the next consult.

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READ THIS BEFORE PURCHASING
PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OVER THE INTERNET !!!
DEA Warning--Buying drugs online may be illegal and dangerous!

Federal law prohibits buying controlled substances such as narcotic pain relievers (e.g., OxyContin®, Vicodin ®), sedatives (e.g., Valium®, Xanax®, Ambien®), stimulants (e.g., phentermine, phendimetrazine, Adderall®, Ritalin®) and anabolic steroids (e.g., Winstrol®, Equipoise®) without a valid prescription from your doctor. This means there must be a real doctor-patient relationship, which by most state laws requires a physical examination. Prescriptions written by "cyber doctors" relying on online questionnaires are not legitimate under the law.

Buying controlled substances online without a valid prescription may be punishable by imprisonment under Federal law. Often drugs ordered from rogue websites come from foreign countries. It is a felony to import drugs into the United States and ship to a non-DEA registrant.

Buying drugs online may not be only illegal, but dangerous. The American Medical Association and state boards of medicine and pharmacy have all condemned the practice of cyber doctors issuing online prescriptions as unacceptable medical care. Drugs delivered by rogue websites may be the wrong drugs, adulterated or expired, the wrong dosage strength, or have no dosage directions or warnings.

DEA is targeting rogue online pharmacies for prosecution and shutting down these illegal websites. See the results of one such investigation, Operation Cyber Chase, at www.DEA.gov/pressrel/pr042005.html.

How to spot a rogue pharmacy: www.DEAdiversion.usdoj.gov/faq/internetpurch.htm

To report illegal prescription drug sales and/or rogue pharmacies operating on the Internet call the anonymous Pharmaceutical drug Abuse Hotline: 1-877-RxAbuse (1-877-792-2873)

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Well, here is a bona fide conundrum; I do have a real script for the meds I take, have a real doctor/patient relationship, but have occasional need for more than the doctor feels comfortable providing, so I order a modest amount and get it shipped from overseas. Anyone care to share their opinion on this? I guess I could ask my Dr. for records to keep at home just in case the DEA were to ask me why I am buying these meds, Schedule IV, by the way...

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you really have no worries here -- DEA has no jurisdiction when it comes to americans ordering needed medications for their PERSONAL USE. DEA is concerned with suppliers only, and if you read every post on this site, you will not find anyone posting that any U.S. DEA agent asked why they were buying any meds.

you are good to go, and my opinion is that you sound like a caring individual who has found a decent solution to a problem many have right now wherein you sometimes need more meds than your doc prescribes, but you don't want to rock the boat so you are quietly taking care of business.

BTW, please remember, when you purchase needed medications from overseas in personal use quantities, you are simply exercising your LEGAL rights as an american citizen.

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It depends. "Telemedicine" is booming. My girlfriend is prescribed dexedrine for ADHD. Her doctor encourages her to use her insurance company - via the Internet - to buy her medication in a 3 month supply.

He writes her the prescription and she goes online, fills out some stuff, and mails off the script. A few weeks later, she gets 180 (!) Smith-Kline dextro-amphetamine sulfate spansule capsules delivered via DHL and her insurance company pays for it.

NROPs and ROPs seem to occupy a gray area of legality. IMHO, there's yet no definitive answer to your question.

If you use the Internet to order controlled substances from another country, then yeah, that's probably pretty cut and dried - assuming of course that Customs finds it. But even then, you'll likely only get a "love letter" from Customs telling you that's a no-no.

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Its different in my state, it is illegal to give more than a 30 day supply here. I was under the impression that for scheduled drugs you can only give out a months supply at one time, this is not the case federally. c-2 can't be refilled, which is why in my state this is the case. It is also rare for dr.s to write scheduled medication for more than a month reguardlessly, but according to the DEA you can prescribe a 3 month supply of schedule 2 drugs, but even if its a week supply, you can't add refills. I was wrong, but it is a common misconception. I was wrong, but its was cause the law really doesn't make sense. I figured no refills, why the hell would you be able to prescribe someone a 3 month supply of meds. It also has to do with the fact that I've never seen a prescription for more than 1 month supply of a drug, the refills are usually for the next month. It is however as I said illegal in my state.

I also think that you can't prescribe narcotices in this way.

http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/fed_regs/rules/2005/fr0826.htm

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drug dealers are using the Internet to sell their drugs. Some people believe that ordering drugs on the Internet --- particularly prescription pharmaceuticals (pills) --- is a safe, legal and easy way to get high. Nothing could be further from the truth.

There are millions of websites offering drugs such as Vicodin™ and Xanax™ to Internet users. Spam messages to user’s emails advertise that these drugs are available with the click of a mouse and a credit card number. Many sites claim you don’t need a doctor’s prescription to buy these powerful drugs. And some ask you to fill out a bogus questionnaire to make their drug dealing look more legitimate. What you don’t know can really hurt you.

Here's a few things to be aware of:

Selling or buying controlled substances without a legitimate doctor’s prescription is a violation of law.
Many of the websites offering controlled substances are located overseas. Usually, there are no doctors involved in these enterprises. You have no idea where the drugs are made, what’s actually in them, or who’s behind the drug ring selling you controlled substances. This kind of a transaction is a felony (a violation of Sections 957 and 960 of Title 21, United States Code) --- very serious stuff.

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