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#155427 - 03/17/05 08:03 PM How many seizure letters have you gotten? *****
flyers024 Offline
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How many seizure notice's have you had?

0 - option is acouple posts down.
How Many
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Edited by flyers024 (03/18/05 07:52 AM)

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#155428 - 03/17/05 08:19 PM Re: How many seizure letters have you gotten?
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can you add an option for 0?

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#155429 - 03/17/05 10:05 PM Re: How many seizure letters have you gotten?
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0 over +3 years and dozens of orders.

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#155430 - 03/18/05 06:35 AM Re: How many seizure letters have you gotten?
trelaina Offline
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Yeah, if you could add "0" that would be good. I don't use IOPs anymore, but was very fortunate, as was the PP above, to have used them for about 3 years with no love letters.

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#155431 - 03/18/05 07:23 AM Re: How many seizure letters have you gotten?
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"0" isn't an amount, either you got 1-5 or more is the question being polled.
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#155432 - 03/18/05 07:29 AM Re: How many seizure letters have you gotten?
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You can start your own poll with any option you want. You can also run several polls on the same post.

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can you add an option for 0?




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#155433 - 04/10/05 09:59 AM Re: How many seizure letters have you gotten?
DC2005 Offline
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What do you think is the common attribute of seized packages?
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#155434 - 04/10/05 10:59 AM Re: How many seizure letters have you gotten?
cleo911 Offline
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My first IOP order ever was seized. That was 5 years ago, with dozens of packages and no seizures since.

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#155435 - 04/10/05 05:38 PM Re: How many seizure letters have you gotten?
lancelot Offline
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Do fake seizure lettters sent by an IOP count in this survey? If so, i've got 1.

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#155436 - 04/10/05 10:18 PM Re: How many seizure letters have you gotten?
jdsblues Offline
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My first was from a IOP in New Zealand about 98, after several orders and then I got a package with a tape all over it saying 'opened by US Customs' in my mail box with a letter inside,, and all the enpty pill boxes and instructions...I conntacted the company with a pic of the letter,tape ect and the empty boxes and
then they resend the whole order free of charge ...with DHL
my next was from Italy,, and I recieved many orders...keeping it the size of a CD and they were all taped togeather with the boxes, broken down over the pills, and tapped again....
then a L letter came.....from Newack NJ....
I used another mailing addy for about a year,and had great luck with the company, and then another LL....then the DEA seized their paypal account,,,,,
then about a year later.....after not ordering from any one,,overseas( I switched to one of the best here)
I got a LL from Chicago office of Customs....
so as usual....I just burned it up!!!
I know Im on a list....but ain't we all! one way or the other!

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#155437 - 04/10/05 10:35 PM Re: How many seizure letters have you gotten?
steamman Offline
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Heres one of the phonies from the Phillipines:Name and address were not in proper format,and the "n" missing in the word on,crappy photocopy!!!,no green tape,opened on end!steamman


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#155438 - 04/11/05 01:10 AM Re: How many seizure letters have you gotten?
lancelot Offline
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exactly like my fake "LL" from judy at P-W. do you notice the "on" is miss spelled on the first sentence w/o the "n". call the 800 number and the ref#. it's all bullshit. scammers.

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#155439 - 04/11/05 01:34 AM Re: How many seizure letters have you gotten?
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I wonder if it has to do with the care, and quality of the packaging. I know that raj, thou it is irritating, uses that blue stuff. Do you think it throws off anything that smells, or x-rays?

Other than that, it's just fun wrapping paper. Ordered from the man 4 times, in a year. Batting 500. Plus sorta have a crush on him. He is so kind.
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#155440 - 04/11/05 06:11 AM Re: How many seizure letters have you gotten?
alphie Offline
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Lancelot,

I ordered from Judy a while back and the same thing happened (a fake LL). She used to be cool...What did you do? Charge back...e-mail demanding money back, or what?? Feel free to PM me if you want.

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#155441 - 04/12/05 06:48 PM Re: How many seizure letters have you gotten?
Danny100 Offline
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What was the IOP you used from New Zealand - they sound pretty good if they re-sent the whole order with DHL free of charge!

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#155442 - 04/13/05 03:35 AM Re: How many seizure letters have you gotten?
jdsblues Offline
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Registered: 03/21/04
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quote from Banny 100'''What was the IOP you used from New Zealand - they sound pretty good if they re-sent the whole order with DHL free of charge!'''
they no longed ship to the usa,uing DHL
and the order was for Codiene!

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#155443 - 04/18/05 04:19 PM Re: How many seizure letters have you gotten?
odorizer Offline
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this thread is funny i like it a lot

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#155444 - 09/17/05 07:47 PM Re: How many seizure letters have you gotten?
PermanentAH Offline
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I receieved my first LL this week. I have been using various South American IOP's for 2 years now. (4 orders a month for 2 years!) 5 days after getting my LL my 2nd order arrived unmolested. I honestly think that the country of origin is a big factor, and the other times it is just dumb luck. My order was seized Sep. 10th...Hmmm, Right before the anniversary of 9-11. Thankfully all the IOP's I use will reship with a scan of the letter. (Please include a copy of the envelope also, this keeps them from thinking you are scamming them.)

Good luck everyone, and hopefully the domestic NROP's will get their act together soon...

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#155445 - 09/17/05 09:20 PM Re: How many seizure letters have you gotten?
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I have not received any as of yet and only order from an iop when funds are short and I cannot afford the service of an nrop.I keep my order small 90 day or less supply.Even though I think it is still a felony to receive any amount of controlled meds from overseas.If i ever receive one I am done with iop's.I truly belive there is a data base for LL's.And in my opinion the dea wil be cracking down soon.Especially on seizures on those "specials" of hundreds of pills some iop's offer.I was a hard head in my youth and have spent time in prison and do not ever want to go back especially on fed trafficking charges.Just my 2 cents,be safe

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#155446 - 09/17/05 09:56 PM Re: How many seizure letters have you gotten?
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Hogie --

Since they type your name and address on the LL, it would seem that they have data entry to keep a database. However, the LL actually comes from US Customs, not FDA or DEA. I suspect famous incompatible federal IT systems and turf wars preclude cooperation amongst fed agencies. And you know feds are NOT going to cooperate with local LEO's to bust 90 ambien tablets coming in the mail.

I have received three LL's in past five years. No follow up yet.

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#155447 - 09/18/05 10:24 AM Re: How many seizure letters have you gotten?
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"0" isn't an amount, either you got 1-5 or more is the question being polled.




In mathematics, physics and computer science zero very definitely is an "amount." E.g. In a program I might use:

"for i=0,9 do blah blah blah."

This loop will execute ten times unless we change the value of variable "i" internal to "for" loop - usually not good practice!









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#155448 - 09/18/05 11:46 AM Re: How many seizure letters have you gotten?
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#155449 - 02/03/06 12:46 PM Re: How many seizure letters have you gotten?
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I have recieved 4 all at the same time...Do you think that puts me at more of a risk? (hahah that question just sounds dumb)

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#155450 - 02/03/06 01:02 PM Re: How many seizure letters have you gotten?
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I think it is still a felony to receive any amount of controlled meds from overseas.




there is nothing illegal about americans purchasing needed meds overseas, controlled or not, as long as we are in compliance with applicable u.s. law (90 day/55 dose).

it is illegal to IMPORT controlled meds from overseas without a license. so if you are buying meds overseas for RESALE, be sure you fill out an application, pay the fee and get youself a license!

there's a real good reason nobody's getting arrested for LEGALLY ordering 90 day supplies of needed meds from overseas...


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#155451 - 02/03/06 01:29 PM Re: How many seizure letters have you gotten?
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there is nothing illegal about americans purchasing needed meds overseas, controlled or not, as long as we are in compliance with applicable u.s. law (90 day/55 dose).




That law is ONLY APPLICABLE IF YOU ARE PHYSICALLY CROSSING AN INTERNATIONAL BORDER WITH THAT AMOUNT IN HAND. It is illegal to receive ANY amount via any method other than the individual to whom it is prescribed in another country actually carrying the 90 day/55 dose total ON THIER PERSON into the US. ANY, REPEAT ANY, shipment, mail, or other type of 3rd party delivery of ANY type of medication listed by FDA or controlled by DEA or both may not be imported without an offical DEA import liscence. PERIOD. There is NO 90 day amout exception, nor is there a 55 dose exception, nor is there any other loophole that allows the thrid party importation of any medication. IT IS ILLEGAL, and as the DB Rules say that discussing or encouraging illegal activity is not tolerated, I am still stumped as to why any discussion of IOPs is allowed at all. They are dangerous, unreliable, and there is no recourse about the quantity or quality of the meds they sell.

THEY ARE ILLEGAL. SORRY.

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#155453 - 02/04/06 01:08 PM Re: How many seizure letters have you gotten?
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#155455 - 02/28/07 10:41 AM Re: How many seizure letters have you gotten?
farmerjoe Offline
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I'm 1 for 1, (1 order, 1 LL). Maybe should have made smaller order, I ordered 2 meds (60 and 80 ct.)

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#155456 - 02/28/07 11:54 AM Re: How many seizure letters have you gotten?
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Quote:

I think it is still a felony to receive any amount of controlled meds from overseas.




there is nothing illegal about americans purchasing needed meds overseas, controlled or not, as long as we are in compliance with applicable u.s. law (90 day/55 dose).

it is illegal to IMPORT controlled meds from overseas without a license. so if you are buying meds overseas for RESALE, be sure you fill out an application, pay the fee and get youself a license!

there's a real good reason nobody's getting arrested for LEGALLY ordering 90 day supplies of needed meds from overseas...






55? Where did you get that from? The number is 50. The original law took effect in 1998 and it *allowed* (affirmatively) a returning U.S. resident to bring up to 50 dose units of a controlled substance "without a valid prescription" through a "land border," and we have only two.

And what's with the "felony"? As i've told you all a million times, illegal simple possession of a controlled substance is a federal misdemeanor if there are no priors. Federal prosecutors have better things to do with their time than prosecute misdemeanors.

When people are prosecuted for obtaining controlled substances after accepting a controlled delivery, they've been charged by their state with possession or poss. w. intent (under their state's laws), because many states will allow a felony charge of poss. w. intent based simply on the quantity ... i.e. they *infer* intent to distribute if a person has more than, in some cases, a very small amount. Some of those threshold quantities can be as small as having 50 pills of a C-II like Codeisan (Class A felony in HI i believe), or they can go by the gram weight of the "total mixture," whichever way gets them the more serious charge. Take cough syrup for example, well, it weighs a lot compared to pills, so a 200-ml liter bottle of a C-III cough syrup like Tussionex could mean many years of prison time in some places because 200-ml of that syrup with the time-release would probably weigh more than 8 ounces (water would be ~7.0 ounces). That's half a pound of a mixture containing a C-III drug. You're toast!
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#155457 - 02/28/07 11:59 AM Re: How many seizure letters have you gotten?
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I've always found that "combined weight" principle to be patently unfair. Don't throw anything into a lake, because once it dissolves, MAN you're going away for 3,000,000 years.

I know it was implemented during the great crack explosion and there is some merit when there is no "active ingredient" to measure as such, but to the same extent there are very specific penalties for somethting like Rohypnol and other substances rather than just their classification as a controlled substance, considering the common dosage units vary so drastically, providing for specific amounts for each substance would be more than appropriate. (Not likely, but appropriate)

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