Here is a list of the zip codes that FedEx will Not make Residential (Home) deliveries to in KY.

701- 40724,40751

702- 40741,40744

710- 40701,40744

711.40701,40734,40740

712- 40701, 40737

713-40730,40754,40759,40763,40769,40771

720-42501,42502,42533

721-42519,42555.42558,42607,42631,42634,42635,42638,42647,42 649,42653

722- 42544

723- 40419,40442, 40489, 42503, 42553, 42554, 42567

724- 42501,42503

730- 42516, 42528,.42539, 42541, 42565, 42566

731-42518,42603,42611,42618,42632,42633,42640,42648,42655

732- 42759. 42602,4271.7,42731

733-42720,42735,42742,42761.42715,42728,42730,42741

734- 42629. 42642

740-40402.40409.40434.40445,40447,40456.40460,40467,40473.40 481,40486, 40488,40492,40494

741-40341,40421,40430,40435,40441,40941,40944,40951,40962,40 972,40983

742-40803,40808,40810,40816,40827,40840,40844,40858,40868,40 874,40913, 40914,40979,40981,41714,41728,41730,41732,41749,41762.41764, 41766,41775. 41776,41777

743-40309,40376,41307,41311,41314,41323,41328,41333,41338,41 344.41347, 41351,41352,41362,41364,41368,41386,41396,41397

750-41701,41713,41719,41720,41723,41727,41745,41754,41778

751-41317,41339,41340,41348,41357.41363,41366.41367,41377.41 378,41390, 41721.41771

752-41701,41712,41713,41714,41722.41725,41729,41740,41743,41 772,41773, 41817,41819,41821,41822.41824,41825.41828,41831,41834,41835, 41836,41840, 41843,41844,41367,41712,41722,41725,41729,41736.41739,41740, 41743,41747, 41772,41805,41817,41822,41823,41831,41834,41836,41843,41844

753- 41746, 41751, 41759, 41760, 41773, 41804, 41815, 41824, 41826, 41829, 41832, 41837,41838,41845, 41847,41848, 41849. 41850,41855. 41858

754-40806,40807,40823,40826,40855,40861,40862,40865,40870,41 731,41735, 41763,41774,41819,4182.1,41833

760-40903,40906,40911,40915,40921,40923,40935,40943,40946,40 949,40953. 40970,40982,40995,40997,40999

761-40813,40845,40856,40863,40902,40939,40940,40955,40958,40 977,40988

762-40965

763-40801,40815,40818,40819,40820,40824,40825,40828,40829,40 830,40831, 40843,40847,40849,40854,40867.40873,40927,40964

Thaks for the Heads Up Chris!! :-)

So, how can they determine if the package contains narcotics or vitamins? If I ordered my vitamins online, FedEx wouldnt ship them to me b/c I live in one of those zip codes?

Do you guys realize how serious this is getting by seeing things like this? Good God. One day this is all going to come to an end, just like that, and it's probably not going to be pretty.

Where did this info come from? How are we positive that it is accurate? Who is Chris?

I don't believe that this list has a whole lot to do with delivering meds. There may be some people here who are not familiar with this state, and all the little dirt roads that still exist here. There is an issue of safety to the driver's of the Fedex Trucks, and the trucks themselves. A lot of those zip codes comes from some really rural out of the way places...up in the hills.

And just a footnote, although I don't live in any of the above posted zip code areas, there are many people in my county who don't even get their mail delivered and must go the post office to get it because of some of the awful, hard to find roads in this state. Yes, you read that right, we have to go to the post office to pick up our mail because some of us are really hidden out here in the country, and if the United States Post Office won't deliver, I hardly expect FedEx to follow suit.

Makes sense Sue.

It hope it has more to do with that, and not to do with Fed Ex doing what some agency asked them to do.

I was watching Headline News, CNN's sister site yesterday morning and they had a story about this. They said they are concerned for the safety of their drivers in Kentucky and that any medicines will need to be picked up at the hubs, showing proper ID.

They also mentioned FedEx shutting down some big sorting station and eliminating 1500 jobs in the next few months.

Hi, Kimberly. I was wondering, in your conversations with FedEx, was there any mention of stopping home medication deliveries nationwide, or is it just Kentucky? This sounds like something that could happen everywhere due the government trying to get shipping companies to cooperate in shutting down OPs.

Also, what is your take on the ongoing proposals to get Hydro changed to schedule 2? Do you think this will ever happen?

Thanks for any information you have. It is nice to get the facts from someone in the know as opposed to having to sift through all the rumors floating around.

Time

In regards to the post by ERMeds, could you please clarify what FedEx means when you stated- "YES, Fedex has tightened up considerably and has incorporated a No Tolerance attitude regarding pharmeceutical shipments."

Exactly what does "No Tolerance attitude" mean?

If you would, please inform as to what your understanding of a No Tolerance attitude regarding pharmaceutical shipments would apply to a person receiving medications ordered from an online pharmacy.

Thank You

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Exactly what does "No Tolerance attitude" mean?

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That's a really good question. Does that mean that my vitamins that I ordered last week will not arrive on the FedEx truck tomorrow? What about the meds I order for my pets that come via FedEx?

I think that the "no tolerance" statement is a sweeping statement. The only problem that I see is all the people who are ordering online, using phoney names and addresses, and paying by COD.

I'm still not buying all of this. It would be impossible for FedEx to go thru every package to examine their contents. Not only that, if FedEx is going to do this, it is really going to affect the "bottom line" which means a large cut in profits by having to hire additional people, discontinuing service for some of their major distributors. I don't see it happening any time soon.

The bottom line is always the "almighty buck". FedEx is in the business of making money people.

I only read the last post, so not sure if someone else has addressed this.

I actually do order my pets meds online (they are a lot cheaper online). My pups meds come in a box with the name of the Co. all over it. Also, they place cotton in the bottle and put those pockets of air protection packs in it to keep it from rattling or breaking or whatever.

Also, my mother orders paxil and klonipin wafers online. She orders like 120 at a time each because my parents insurance do not cover those kinds of meds and she gets them from a legit wholesale pharmacy with a prescription from her local dr. They have always come in a box. I think they were shipped overnight or 2nd day too, not ground. I wonder if these people would arrest my mom. Doubt it.

One other thing. The arrest type thing happened to my friend outside a fedex hub, where the local police were hunting those idiots that use false names, addresses, etc. Anyway, his meds came from NWW and when they checked the dea script # and all that they let him go b/c his meds were legit.

Reason for the post: I think these ROP pharms should charge a little more, let us customers pay for the boxes, and ship in boxes and adequately pack there shipments. Maybe that would keep these nosey LE and workers out of our business. Use some intitials for the name on the package, maybe put some nice little stickers on them, maybe a fragile on the box.

And, if you have ever used United pharm (fedexmeds uses them), they know how to pack a prescription, sometimes I dont even know what I am getting. The meds come rolled up completely packed with cotton so no typical rattle at all.

Just some thoughts and opinions.

I agree, itchy. It would certainly help cut down on theft if the pharmacy did not put their name on the outside of the package. Thieves are on the lookout for any packages that say XYZ Drugs out of Florida. It's a dead giveaway. Why not say processing center, or customer center or something like that? And the boxes would be extra protection. I think OPs make enough of a profit that they could do better at making sure our packages get to us and help maintain privacy as well.

Time

KY will be the first to say no to online consultations, no to online pharmacies, and the first to try to enforce it. They will close all loopholes. To accomplish this they need Mr. Smoot to scare all KY residents into believing OPs are a big danger. All others will follow. Just my two cents.

Tim is correct. I live in one of the zip codes affected 418xx, and here's the deal. Fedex is delivering everything as usual except for COD envelopes. (aka packages that look like they contain drugs.)

You can still pick up your COD NROP Hyrdo package at the Fedex center, but you better make sure your name is on it, and you have proper ID, etc. And don't show up there drunk or high or give them any reason to arrest you, cause they are looking for any excuse pr reaspm to arrest you if you pick up COD pills at the customer service center.) They arrested 3 or 4 at the Hazard, KY UPS center last week.

If all of my fellow East KY people would just order from one of the NROP's or ROP's that take credit cards there would be no issues with this. (and yes if you research this board long enough there are at least 3 places that take credit cards that don't require records right now.) I just got an order last Tuesday from one of them. Fedex, delivered to my house, no problems, no questions ask.

And if your credit is so bad you can't get a credit card, then I am sorry, bit you better spend your money on something else besides hydro online, (like a bankruptcy lawyer, or pay off your debts) cause you have a lot worse problems than your realize. If you keep buying your hydrocodone COD in KY you are going to end up getting arrested for possesion of Hyrdo, or something worse. Or you are taking a really stupid risk of being arrested. Being in pain is one bad thing, but sitting in jail and being in pain is a lot worse.

PEOPLE IN ALL STATES PLEASE JUST GET A CREDIT CARD AND QUIT USING THESE COD FLY BY NIGHT NROP PLACES.

Cause the bad publicity these places generate is going to be the cause of laws being passed, that prevent everyone in any state from being able to get hydro online with or without medical records.

IF YOU KEEP GIVING THESE CERTAIN COD PLACES YOUR BUSINESS YOU ARE GOING TO CAUSE THE ENDING OF NROP AND ROP BUSINSS FOR EVERYONE. !! NOT JUST US PEOPLE IN KY.

Thank you so much Easychesse for having the courage to put up an informative post. Everything that you say is true.....everything, but it seems that if one posts any type of common sense reasoning to this problem, you are ignored, which is really too bad.

I have good records and one credit card that is used specifically for all of my internet purchases, and no, it's not just for meds. Since I'm too far out here in the boonies, it really difficult to go and get a money order, and it seems to me that I have read some posts on this board about people handing over their money orders, only to open their "packages" to find aspirin.

I know no one will listen to your post, but you have put up some very informative information, that I am afraid most people here don't want to hear, and will continue to do the crazy things that you stated in post.

If you are one of those people, who like to break the law by using phoney names and addresses, and pay sky high prices for your drugs, then you deserve what you get.....lot's of jail time.

You know who you are, I feel sorry for you, and I want to thank you personally for screwing it up for the rest of us who need our meds just to survive. I think it would be a real hoot if you all go on up to the FedEx hub high, turn over your money, and find that you have been scammed by one of the many NROP's that are out there, and then get arrested. I would love to see it.

In all reality, COD has very little to do with this, if anything. The drivers in that area have been mobbed by "seekers" who could not wait for their shipments to be delivered. They chased them down the street, interrupted their deliveries and threatened some drivers.

The move to have shipments picked up at the hub is for the safety of the drivers.

COD deliveries do take more time, but if this were the reason then Grandma could not pay for her undergarment delivery at her front door.

FedEx is only looking out for their employees under the guise of "being a good citizen". This was bound to happen sometime or other. UPS drivers are getting harassed by out of control package receivers too by hydro takers who say, "I NEED my package NOW, it's life of death!

Geezzzz

if these hydro maniacs would just stay at there house and wait it wouldnt really be a issue at all. if these people check the tracking number and it says in transit delivery then you know it is going to be there. it aint like it is just going to dissappear from the truck or at least i have never had anyone tell me that the package just disappeared. another problem is that people take each others packages. if you order something off the internet i dont care what it is be it shoes or meds or a toilet cover you dont tell people that you have a package coming so that they can try to steal it. send your own package in your own name to your own house sit there, wait for it to arrive, dont brag to everybody you know that you got a order coming and this would all be over and no legal steps would need to be taken. but as long as hydro-maniacs are out there along with the xanaxheads tracking down the fedex and ups drivers because they dont have any self-control then there are going to be problems. FOR ALL YOU HYDRO-MANIACS AND XANAXHEADS I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU A BIT OF INSIGHT IF I WAS A COP WHAT I WOULD DO IS TAIL A FEDEX OR UPS TRUCK UNTIL I SAW ONE OF YOU IDIOTS FLAG ONE DOWN GET YOUR PACKAGE AND THEN BUST YOUR [censored]. JUST SOMETHING FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT BEFORE YOU GO OUT ON YOUR FEDEX/UPS TRUCK HUNT.

That was a great post, Cline. I love you babe and I think somebody is finally on the same page as me.

I wouldnt wish jail on my worst enemy. Although, I understand your point.

Hi Timetogo,

In my conversation there was no mention of any "stoppage" nation wide as of yet.Nor was there menton of hubs closing or jobs being cut. This al may be true, but it was not discussed with me.
I also do not think it actually has anything to do with COD issues and I am not sure why that seems to be a concern but if someone knows something I don't I would greatly appreciate an update.
By "no tolerance" I was primarily reffering to multiple shippments for the same addy, Joe picking up meds for John, James, Sally and Mary, etc.

just a portion....

Posted on Thu, Feb. 24, 2005

FedEx refusing to deliver drugs to eastern Kentucky

ROGER ALFORD

Associated Press

PIKEVILLE, Ky. - FedEx has stopped delivering packages from online pharmacies to portions of eastern Kentucky where prescription drug abuse has become widespread.

"We don't tolerate the use of our system for illegal purposes," said Ryan Furby, a spokesman for the global shipping giant based in Memphis, Tenn.
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It is much easier to afford a blanketed assumption that all online ordering is shady. Sad that this is where it's gone. Fedex does have an obligation to it's drivers however and it seems as though the appeal to drive for Fedex in KY is right up there with working QC in a nukes plant. People ARE getting held up, stopped in the streets, etc., for the medications on the trucks.
This is all I have got at the moment and as usual my members here are way ahead of me with info, though I certainly try to keep up. I will post more as I find out and hopefully we can get all of our info congruent.
K

This just seems so ironic that people seem to be panicky now, when this info about the zip codes was posted over a week ago on this site, only to get no responses whatsoever. Its just wierd. What you all say is correct. There are reasons this is happening, but remember its not just one reason or the other. It is the culmination of many things happening over the past few months. What do I feel is the biggest contributer? The fact that Fedex drivers have been harrassed and threatened, and a couple have even gotten packages stolen out of their truck while they were inside making a delivery or getting something to eat. This is not hard to believe, nor understand. This makes more sense than anything else out there. Protection of the Fedex drivers and employees is concern number one, and the problem we have here is that Fedex actually has to address the safety of its drivers, whereas in the past, this was never an issue. Call Fedex and ask them about their policy in these zip codes in KY, they'll tell you themselves if it is so hard to believe.

On a side note and in response to one of the first posts in this thread, - dealing with the proposed Fedex Sort Center closing. I haven't heard anything about Fedex doing this, but I have read a very similar story about UPS doing this. They acquired a large Hub when they bought out a company a while back, and I think its located in the midwest somewhere - Dayton, OH maybe? Anyway, they tried keeping the Center open to see how it worked out, and they just don't need it as they're going ahead with plans to build a brand new, state of the art center, nearby - where all the packages would go anyway. So, they're closing it down, and the jobs are being cut. This could be totally different than what you were talking about, I jsut thought it was similar sounding and maybe you just mixed up the companies.

My information comes from Mgmt. at the KY hub and my pharmacy (who deal with FEDEX daily):

*This is not a COD/CC specific issue. Using your CC does not guarantee that your meds will not need to be held at the hubs.

*FEDEX is having trouble hiring, and keeping their drivers.
(My guess is there must be some lofty liability for FEDEX if the driver gets held up, hijacked, physically harmed...etc along with reimbursement $$ covering stolen goods.) I can not confirm if the threat to drivers is exclusive to meds, CODs, jewelry, electronics....etc. I would imagine it is a combination of all of the above.

If you live in KY, and you are a CP sufferer you have every right to your package. Please be pro-active; get your hub address and pick up your package there. This FEDEX issue has been brewing for atleast 8 months now. This too shall pass, once the drivers feel safe, FEDEX feels safe....things will settle down. No need to worry needlessly. I am sure your OCS(s) and Pharmacy (ies) will work diligently to get you taken care of, if you live within one of the zip codes listed.

Telemedicine is changing; we just have to change with it.
I hope this helps.
-C

Chris, thanks for posting that information, but could you answer a quick question? Is YPM considering dropping their services to people who live in Kentucky? Are all of us going to be lumped into this mess on the other side of the state? Fedex is not having any problems in the Western Kentucky area.....and I say that with some trepedation, because we have no clue who is reading these posts and planning their next "big score".

A post about this situation or a pm would be greatly appreciated since I was considering using your service, and sorry, but I'm too old to chase down the Fedex truck, unless I think the driver is cute, single and available!

>>I'm too old to chase down the Fedex truck, unless I think the driver is cute, single and available<<

...funny

No, I have no plans to stop shipping to KY. I am not interested in hobbling the CP patient any more than what I have already seen in the last couple of years.

I like to keep my members very proactive-that's just me.

With strong records (including a good history), FULL consults, and one provider--you are NOT doing anything wrong. It is OUR (your provider) responsibility to handle the OCS end of it.
-C

DMG
Agreed on most of your above counts...
..except I do beleive he DID eat the cat poop..

K

yes, but reluctantly.

As I said before ... "This has nothing to do with COD. It is for the protection of the drivers."

We are having the same problems at UPS. Our truck drivers do not deserved to be chased, pulled over and threatened because someone cannot wait a couple hours for their delivery at their homes.

Grannies do not chase the delivery truck for their quilts, heart patients do not chase the truck for their Tenormin, construction workers do not chase the truck for their blue prints, BUT there are patients who will totally harass the driver and some hubs, including the 800 phone lines, for the life of death situation of getting their pain medication. Give me a break!! I see it everyday!

COD until your heart's content ... it causes no harm and actually generates more income for the shipping companies. But the driver harassment has to stop. FedEx would not make this move unless they absolutely had to.

cline said it beautifully!!!

Exactly Tim....No fake names to neighbors houses, etc & you'll be fine, I think

its official, as of 3/4/05, feded hub on mercer rd in lex ky is being watched,, cops on site two arrested around 8:40. Heard ups is the same on the same road same place. sorry guys better turn 21 and get records. i think next week house bill will go through

FedEx is still delievering, in my Ky town...I dont know about any other counties, cities, or little towns here, but no one in my family has had to go to a hub to pick anything up.