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#133176 - 12/24/04 03:33 PM
Re: Lomotil -an antidiarrheal med -that contains a Narocotic
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Enthusiast
Registered: 12/03/04
Posts: 222
Loc: U.S.A.
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I'll never forget the day I walked into my local Walgreens. I wasn't sure if Lomotil was one of those "under the counter" over the counter meds, so I asked the pharmacist, who knows me from my hydro prescriptions. She shot me a glare and she said "Great, now your looking to abuse diarreha medicine. Why don't you just go get some Immodium off the shelf." Wide-eyed in shock, I shot back, "uh...no thanks, I'm done with Walgreens and I'm going to tell your corporate offices why." Walgreens IS truly evil.
Thats funny, yet very uncalled for. I would not boycott Walgreens entire business, but I would advoid that pharmacist ('might even tell others).
UPDATE:
I received an email from an old friend of mine today that had a story of someone that acidentially took too many of these pills. He claims his friend took somewhere between 6-10 Lomotil pills one night due to the fact he was drinking and wasnt making smart decisions. The report is that they made him feel very bad... He had nightmares all night long, nerves were shot to the point that the room was spining, and he got very dehydrayted to the point he suffered an all day long intense sinus headache.
So, on the surface of it... I cant understand how anyone could abuse this product to get high on it. It seems to be one of those drugs that should not be sceduled as it currently is.
Peace.
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#133177 - 01/27/05 12:02 AM
Re: Lomotil -an antidiarrheal med -that contains a Narocotic
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Threadhead
Registered: 09/09/02
Posts: 350
Loc: Colorado
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I have been on Lomotil for many years for severe IBS. And, yes, the active ingredient is a derivative of demerol. I was told by a drug rep that the atropine is added to discourage abuse. I am on a high dose (8/day-that is the maximum dosage). I can indeed tell you that YES lomotil is abused and I have to be very careful with it. It IS a scheduled drug. I can tell you that if you take a very large dose, the atropine will have the following effects: 1. Very dry mouth; 2. A bright red face; 3. Some report a headache; 4. Dryness "all over"; 5. Urinary retention; 6. Pinpoint pupils; and 7. Most dangerously, it increases your heart rate dangerously high. I am talking about 140 HR; you will also develop very high blood pressure (i.e., 190/140). These vitals DO NOT return to normal for many days despite I.V. fluids. I once knew someone that took 120 - she wound up in the ER due to the HR & blood pressure issue, but was hospitalized due to a bowel impaction. She was put on the cardiac floor because her heartrate was so extremely high. The impaction DID go away after 2-3 days (after the surgeon came in to consult). Careful with this med - it's an easy one to abuse but not worth it.
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>>> 
Atropine is a $#!t hit but it's still used for many things. It's an alkaloid that's present in the jimson weed plant, among others and in high doses can be hallucinogenic with an emphasis on unpleasant. Atropine has been used in eye drops too for its pupil dilation effects and for motion sickness too - if I'm not mistaken it's available in a "patch". Best wishes . . .
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