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#600009 - 11/16/07 08:45 AM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: ]
rz3456 Offline
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I agree that a LL wouldn't show up on a background check, limit that to high-level govt security clearance maybe. The govt doesn't share pending investigations that way.
As someone said, it's somewhat like getting pulled over without being ticketed. Also like that though, as the fed tends to prosecute this kind of activity in "sweeps", getting prosecuted for one illegal import with evidence of a half-dozen seizures with accompanied LL's isn't gonna help your defense. You lose credible deniability as it shows a pattern of behaviour. You wouldn't be charged with each prior LL as you were already served with the LL itself, but it establishes you as a habitual importer of illegal substances. That's an important distiction.

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#602211 - 11/19/07 06:03 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: ShesTheOne]
jewell1234
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I just received a seizure letter from customs. What should I do. Should I answer the second page sign it and send it back in or should I ignore it.

To be honest I was not expecting a package. This must have been from a long long time ago. But what should I do about it.

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#602547 - 11/20/07 09:26 AM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: ]
milla Offline
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 Originally Posted By: jewell1234
I just received a seizure letter from customs. What should I do. Should I answer the second page sign it and send it back in or should I ignore it.

To be honest I was not expecting a package. This must have been from a long long time ago. But what should I do about it.


Best advice: Ignore it. Do nothing.

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#646256 - 02/08/08 02:32 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: als]
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This is a sample from UK


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Description: UK LL


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#681601 - 04/09/08 04:47 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: Melody]
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This a a copy of a recent letter just contributed by "mcren"...




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#681606 - 04/09/08 05:03 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: Administrator]
jl767 Offline
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Well that sucks to say the least. Miami is really no joke. I feel for all of you that have mail enter through that particular POE. It looks hand signed, which if it is, surprises me.

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#681614 - 04/09/08 05:28 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: Administrator]
nephro Offline
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 Originally Posted By: Administrator
This a a copy of a recent letter just contributed by "mcren"...




Love how Customs put the DB adverts on the letters!

If the pills they seize are loose, perhaps they use IDThisPill.com to identify them?!

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#681626 - 04/09/08 05:51 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: Administrator]
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Wow! All petitions must be filed in English!!! Now there's a step forward.....
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#681629 - 04/09/08 05:56 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: kserah]
nephro Offline
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Bet it won't say that on the UK one. In fact I'm surprised it doesn't come as a booklet with the LL in 19 languages, with English on page 12.

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#681632 - 04/09/08 06:04 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: nephro]
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How do they price the pills? Is it based on a invoice inside from the seller? Is there a Kelly's Blue Book for pills/meds? Is it an average of US prices? I understand why they have to assign a $ value to the seized property, but how do they come to these prices?

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#681635 - 04/09/08 06:10 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: nephro]
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 Originally Posted By: nephro
Bet it won't say that on the UK one. In fact I'm surprised it doesn't come as a booklet with the LL in 19 languages, with English on page 12.


So dam true neph!!
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#681737 - 04/10/08 03:04 AM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: Monkey_claw]
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 Originally Posted By: Monkey_claw
 Originally Posted By: nephro
Bet it won't say that on the UK one. In fact I'm surprised it doesn't come as a booklet with the LL in 19 languages, with English on page 12.


So dam true neph!!


Seconded!

I hate to sound like a borderline racist Daily Mail reader, but the amount of taxpayers money spent by the UK Govt and local authorities to make their services available to non-English speakers is absurd.

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#681770 - 04/10/08 06:18 AM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: LostLoginAgain]
keecha1 Offline
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The whole LL thing would make me very nervous. Does the co. reship if the package is seized, or do you just call it a loss?

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#682693 - 04/11/08 09:07 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: keecha1]
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Most folks I have ordered from reship for free. However some make you wait a while before reshipping.
I got an LL one time for muscle relaxers. 3 days later I received my muscle relaxers. That was strange.
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#682696 - 04/11/08 09:11 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: Atrayus]
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That is wierd. It's kind of like they're slapping you on the wrist, but then saying they're sorry!
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#682732 - 04/12/08 01:43 AM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: novakitty]
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are they really putting the drugbuyers website logo on seizure letters, or is that a joke cut'n paste?

how can that be for real? customs doesn't know from the drugs they are seizing that the buyers are board members. is customs referring seizure victims to drugbuyers thinking they will learn here not to use iops? or is it a joke I am not getting....duh?

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#682749 - 04/12/08 04:15 AM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: scruf]
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I'm pretty sure Admin put the logo on, but maybe he sent a load to Customs to use? Advertising pays, so they say.

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#682756 - 04/12/08 05:17 AM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: nephro]
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 Originally Posted By: nephro
I'm pretty sure Admin put the logo on, but maybe he sent a load to Customs to use? Advertising pays, so they say.


I'd say your right, but what a great idea that would be for customs and taxpayers, to have someone pay for the ll's with a bit of advertising!


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#683490 - 04/14/08 06:43 AM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: scruf]
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 Originally Posted By: scruf
are they really putting the drugbuyers website logo on seizure letters, or is that a joke cut'n paste?

how can that be for real? customs doesn't know from the drugs they are seizing that the buyers are board members. is customs referring seizure victims to drugbuyers thinking they will learn here not to use iops? or is it a joke I am not getting....duh?



hi scruf, i think this might just be a sample LL from DB admin, and a little bit of sarcasm to go with it.. so yep, prolly abit of a joke, also.... if u do a search on buying meds online, u will get DByers.com
Google uses (as does all other search engines) YOUR words/ keywords to find the most relevant matches for your search.
In this instance, the majority of the time, if u search online for: "buy my meds online" the results will come up with DByers.com along with other stuff.
Search the above phrase, and have a look see at the results.
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#683493 - 04/14/08 06:55 AM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: ShesTheOne]
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 Originally Posted By: ShesTheOne
Here is an example of a love letter:

http://www.drugbuyers.com/loveletter



THIS is your LL??? \:\) its pretty
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#683594 - 04/14/08 11:42 AM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: jl767]
Dennit Offline
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 Originally Posted By: jl767
How do they price the pills? Is it based on a invoice inside from the seller? Is there a Kelly's Blue Book for pills/meds? Is it an average of US prices? I understand why they have to assign a $ value to the seized property, but how do they come to these prices?



I'm betting that they use street prices to make their work look better on paper. I know when they do a pot growing bust, they weigh the whole pot including soil, etc.

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#683602 - 04/14/08 11:51 AM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: Dennit]
jl767 Offline
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Yeah when you get busted with LSD they weigh the paper/sugar cube.

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#684642 - 04/16/08 04:45 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: jl767]
SteveP Offline
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I received on a few years ago.. No big deal unless it's large Qty of Sched II / Steroids etc. Shoot - Whats the worst thing they can do fo 60-90 pills?

Actually - I take that back.. There is no saying what LE / Homeland Security will do these days.. I'm sure its in the Patriot act somewhere that they have rights to tap your phone, monitor all computer activity, do a search of your house without a warrant now... LOL Just kidding.. <<Looks out window>>

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#684669 - 04/16/08 05:28 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: SteveP]
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 Originally Posted By: SteveP

. I'm sure its in the Patriot act somewhere that they have rights to tap your phone, monitor all computer activity, do a search of your house without a warrant now... LOL Just kidding.. <<Looks out window>>


Actually it is... maybe less search the home without a warrant.
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#684717 - 04/16/08 07:12 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: funkybreakz]
sinje Offline
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For the U.S.-Are all the LL's always from Miami? And is that the point of entry for certain states? (sorry, I know this may sound like a stupid question, but be gentle please... )
I've tried to find answers for Point of entry places, but come up with nothing. I'm in the west, and received an email saying it was a "hot spot" and to get a mailbox somewhere else to forward my packages.
I've read people from newyork not having problems with jfk.
Can someone steer me in the right direction for information?
Or tell me the different poe's?
Thank you in advance, db'ers, but please help!


Edited by sinje (04/16/08 07:13 PM)

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#684741 - 04/16/08 08:12 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: funkybreakz]
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 Originally Posted By: funkybreakz
 Originally Posted By: SteveP

. I'm sure its in the Patriot act somewhere that they have rights to tap your phone, monitor all computer activity, do a search of your house without a warrant now... LOL Just kidding.. <<Looks out window>>


Actually it is... maybe less search the home without a warrant.






Under the Patriot Act, it does allow for searching your home without a warrant, when your not home, and they can take anything they want without even telling you what they took, or even that they searched your home.

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#684759 - 04/16/08 08:49 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: SteveP]
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 Originally Posted By: SteveP
 Originally Posted By: funkybreakz
 Originally Posted By: SteveP

. I'm sure its in the Patriot act somewhere that they have rights to tap your phone, monitor all computer activity, do a search of your house without a warrant now... LOL Just kidding.. <<Looks out window>>


Actually it is... maybe less search the home without a warrant.






Under the Patriot Act, it does allow for searching your home without a warrant, when your not home, and they can take anything they want without even telling you what they took, or even that they searched your home.


thanks for crushing my last safe haven steve
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#684763 - 04/16/08 09:01 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: funkybreakz]
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The FBI is in hot water for using "National Security Letters". This allows/allowed them to do whatever they wanted whenever they basically wanted. There was basically no judicial review to receive authorization and they can/could do whatever they want. They could probably even give you a colonoscopy when you’re asleep. LOL

Talk about losing your last safe haven, anything in the name of security :-0

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#684768 - 04/16/08 09:15 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: jl767]
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 Originally Posted By: jl767
The FBI is in hot water for using "National Security Letters". This allows/allowed them to do whatever they wanted whenever they basically wanted. There was basically no judicial review to receive authorization and they can/could do whatever they want. They could probably even give you a colonoscopy when you’re asleep. LOL

Talk about losing your last safe haven, anything in the name of security :-0


whew, using the whole fist there doc?
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#685723 - 04/19/08 04:39 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: novakitty]
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 Originally Posted By: Atrayus
I got an LL one time for muscle relaxers. 3 days later I received my muscle relaxers. That was strange.


 Originally Posted By: novakitty
That is wierd. It's kind of like they're slapping you on the wrist, but then saying they're sorry!


i laughed \:D
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