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#556618 - 09/05/07 01:18 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: suus99]
ocd1 Offline
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Registered: 02/19/07
Posts: 147
It's easy to say don't worry.
But don't worry.
If the local or fed LE had any interest in your activities, they wouldn't send you a letter.
First of all, you didn't receive, sign for, or have in your posession anything (or don't currently have anything).
If they go to their boss and say how they whacked some small-time user, they'll be reprimanded for wasting (perhaps) 10's of thousands of dollars to make an example of you. Doesn't look good on their resume.
Large schIII quantities,, any sch II's and steroids get extra LE attention.
If you're not pushing the buck in those categories, just shred the letter.
I mean, if they really wanted you, don't you'd think they'd require a signature, or do a controlled delivery.
You're a little fish in the Atlantic Ocean.
God forbid, just don't respond to the ll.
Forget about it, don't answer "out of area" anonymous calls, and enjoy life.
Peace

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#559072 - 09/09/07 11:29 AM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: ocd1]
Aleigha Offline
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Registered: 08/28/06
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Thanks! Your post to someone else has made me feel better also as I received a LL from Miami.Thanks again!

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#559081 - 09/09/07 11:43 AM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: Aleigha]
ShesTheOne Offline
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Registered: 08/24/07
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I've got about a dozen LL's in my time. I doubt there is any limit. No one has shown up at my door or even bothered to call me. I just would try until I find a way to obtain the desired end result. There's nothing I wouldn't do to try and help myself when no one else would. I can't just live in level 6-8 pain, after a while it really becomes something that causes a great depression and lack of a real normal life. It's really unfair that some people live a perfectly normal life without meds but that's not my luck. Without meds I simply cannot live a normal life, unable to get out of bed and needing special help to just get to the bathroom.

So for those that can live med free, that's great for you, but I can't, the pain is simply too great for me to over come it without meds. No LL is going to stop me from trying to feel normal.


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#560276 - 09/11/07 11:42 AM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: lancelot]
SeaBreeze Offline
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Registered: 03/03/07
Posts: 156
 Quote:
i'm 99% sure i got a fake "LL" from an IOP


Whoah, they actually do that?! I had no idea.

I got my first Cool J on a seizure after ordering from Pura Vida (I think?). I was scared. The first time is always scary! They make it sound like you're doing something wrong. Like it's a crime to treat your pain when no one in the US will help you with it? But no one ever called me or bothered me. No LE involvement whatsoever, which was a huge relief. I am the squarest, most moral and law-abiding person you can imagine, so the whole situation was ridiculous. I've never even gotten a ticket. I am the one who always pushes the walky walk button, looks both ways. I am the one who helps the snails safely across the sidewalk and keeps a road map on hand at all times, entirely to assist the people who stop me to ask for directions. If only everyone could be like me, it would be one beautiful, dorky utopia. Anyway I am the last person on earth who should have problems with LE.

I mailed the LL back to the IOP, as they said they needed to see it in person before they could re-ship. (Apparently people fake them somehow). They received it, re-shipped, and then a second LL came from the same point of entry (Miami again). I photographed the letter and attached it to an email (as proof) and told the IOP that the re-ship had been seized as well.

They said that they could only do one re-ship (which is ok - I mean, at least they tried), and nothing came of the second LL either. No calls or anything.

I guess there is *something* in LE that is working right, that they are too busy going after other people for other reasons, to hassle me in my squarehood.

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#564340 - 09/18/07 12:27 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: SeaBreeze]
milla Offline
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Registered: 07/25/06
Posts: 28
Loc: NYC
 Originally Posted By: SeaBreeze
I guess there is *something* in LE that is working right, that they are too busy going after other people for other reasons, to hassle me in my squarehood.


Yup, the something that's working -- aside from opening our mail -- is the theft of our goods at the border. They don't come to our residence because we don't possess that which they are stealing.

P.S. I'm also virtually certain my LL was a fake.



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#564798 - 09/19/07 07:32 AM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: milla]
dadam Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 46
What's an LL. What does this stand for? Interesting thread to read. You only get LL's if you order from out of the country? Just trying to educate myself, so I can follow this thread. Thanx

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#565045 - 09/19/07 12:44 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: dadam]
criticalmass Offline
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Love Letter from customs ie. seizure letter. LMAO Just like in high school, only you DO get screwed (no meds).

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#565057 - 09/19/07 01:01 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: criticalmass]
ShesTheOne Offline
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Yes, a Love Letter occurs when Customs confiscates your order that originated outside the United States.

DB has an example Love Letter for you to look at:

http://www.drugbuyers.com/loveletter/
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#565088 - 09/19/07 01:45 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: ShesTheOne]
Cloey123 Offline
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In the LL you have to wonder what the word "Destroyed" actually means...

I "destroyed" a few pills myself yesterday. I'm sure they were "destroyed" rather nicely in my stomach.
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#565123 - 09/19/07 02:29 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: ShesTheOne]
milla Offline
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Registered: 07/25/06
Posts: 28
Loc: NYC
 Originally Posted By: ShesTheOne
Yes, a Love Letter occurs when Customs confiscates your order that originated outside the United States.

DB has an example Love Letter for you to look at:

http://www.drugbuyers.com/loveletter/



I love the little "warning" from USCBP at the bottom of that page telling us about all the risks. Of course, they don't tell us that the biggest risk is that we may receive nothing at all due to their actions.



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#565672 - 09/20/07 10:24 AM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: milla]
apex11 Offline
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Registered: 09/13/07
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i wonder what the odds are of getting a LL, seems as if they are getting higher

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#565782 - 09/20/07 12:34 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: milla]
ShesTheOne Offline
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 Originally Posted By: milla
 Originally Posted By: ShesTheOne
Yes, a Love Letter occurs when Customs confiscates your order that originated outside the United States.

DB has an example Love Letter for you to look at:

http://www.drugbuyers.com/loveletter/

I love the little "warning" from USCBP at the bottom of that page telling us about all the risks. Of course, they don't tell us that the biggest risk is that we may receive nothing at all due to their actions.


Yeah, their more than willing to "help" you for no charge too \:\( I think they're a bunch of bastards.
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#565903 - 09/20/07 03:05 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: ShesTheOne]
milla Offline
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Registered: 07/25/06
Posts: 28
Loc: NYC
 Originally Posted By: ShesTheOne
Yeah, their more than willing to "help" you for no charge too \:\( I think they're a bunch of bastards.



Heh, yeah. Ditto.

The whole thing reeks of double standards. And sadly, their "help" really isn't free of charge at all. Protecting us from ourselves (and protecting the pockets of the domestic pharmaceutical companies) costs unwitting taxpayers millions upon millions every year. Very sad.

And we who need the meds get to pay extra for the privilege of being treated like second-class citizens.


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#576954 - 10/08/07 12:06 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: milla]
djplayboy Offline
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Registered: 08/18/06
Posts: 72
i just got a LL from uk customs... they got 60 x 30mg temazipam from me \:\( lol

any body know if they black list u and search your other packages u get sent from over seas?

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#577025 - 10/08/07 01:18 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: djplayboy]
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Temazepam is a Controlled drug in the UK, in the same class as flunitrazepam (Rohypnol), unlike the other benzodiazepines, so it sounds like a LL is a lucky outcome.

I telephoned UK Customs a few weeks ago, and they said that your address may be 'kept an eye on', but apparently by the postal services, not Customs. They were very cagey, and kept trying to squeeze out personal details.


Edited by nephro (10/08/07 01:19 PM)

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#577029 - 10/08/07 01:23 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: djplayboy]
faeriewitch Offline
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Registered: 09/01/06
Posts: 495
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I'm pretty sure they do. I know US customs seems to have flagged me - twice I've tried to order and twice received LLs so I just gave up on International.

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#577038 - 10/08/07 01:34 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: apex11]
Strawberry Offline
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Registered: 01/29/06
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 Originally Posted By: apex11
i wonder what the odds are of getting a LL, seems as if they are getting higher


I too, like a lot of other posters have received several LL's over the years. I don't think it the odds have increased, unless your ordering form a country, That have greater then normal political problems.
I would say, for me, the chance of an LL is around 5-10% when you live in the USA.

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#577077 - 10/08/07 02:22 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: Strawberry]
farble1670 Offline
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Registered: 04/23/06
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i had a reputable IOP do 3 re-ships and not one LL. they ultimately refunded my $$$.

my mind races with what could possibly be going on.

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#577255 - 10/08/07 07:20 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: farble1670]
ShesTheOne Offline
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that reputable place wasn't by any chance Offshore-pharma.com?
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#579074 - 10/11/07 10:04 AM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: ShesTheOne]
farble1670 Offline
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Registered: 04/23/06
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yes it was. why do you ask?

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#579078 - 10/11/07 10:07 AM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: farble1670]
ShesTheOne Offline
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I knew it, this is just part of the way they operate. It's not a total scam, but if they can get you they will. I don't want to get into details, but the fact that I new it was the pharmacy should tell a lot of people I know what I'm talking about.

Up until my I got my insurance I was an expert IOPer.
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#579087 - 10/11/07 10:13 AM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: ShesTheOne]
ladylisa Offline
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Registered: 07/13/07
Posts: 117
Loc: East
 Originally Posted By: ShesTheOne
that reputable place wasn't by any chance Offshore-pharma.com?


OFF SUBGEST, JUST WANTED TO SAY HELLO TO SHES THE ONE
THE-AIRPLANE-GUY

AND TO ALL-- I MYSELF HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY, ILL, AND
AM INTERTRESED IN ANY HELP YOU COULD PM ME ABOUT--I HAVE(AM)
TRULY WOULDERED IF I AM GOING TO MAKE IT,--

BACK ON SUBJEST WHAT DO THEY DO WHEN THEY SEIZE YOUR PACKAGE

AND HOW DO YOU KNOW? AND WHO DOES THE SEIZING THE DEA THE
CUSTOMS PEOPLE, AND THEN ARE YOU LISTED, SAME QUESIONS,

FOR THE US. IF YOU HAD AN OLD, OLD, REFILL AND FOR MONTHS WAS UN SUCESSFUL IN OBTAINING EVEN A PHONE CALL AND JUST CHALK
IT UP AS A TO BAD SO SAD LOST AND THEN LOCATE ANOTHER OL-DOC,
AND SEND IN ALL INFO AND COMPLETE AND ALL IS A GO AND THIS

MESSED UP COMPANY THAT STIL OWES YOU A REFILL WHICH YOU STILL HAVEN'T HEARD FROM HAS GOTTEN YOU BLACK-LISTED-
1ST. QUESTION HOW?
2ND. QUESTION IS THERE A SITE THESE PHARMACYS USE AND HOW
WOULD THEY FOR EXAMPLE KNOW WHO THEY ARE BLACK BALLING?
3RD.QUESTION-IS THERE A WAY TO APPEAL THESE SITUTIONS,
AND HOW WOULD YOU TRY..
4TH.WILL THIS BALLING EVENTUALLY AFTER A PERIOD OF TIME
EXPIRE?

ANYONE OUT THERE PLEASE HELP, US WITH SOME KNOWLEDGE, HOPEFULLY OUR REPERSENIVES THAT ARE HERE WIH US DAILY MAY
BE ABLE TO HELP, KIND SIRS

WHAT IN THIS WORLD ARE WE HONEST SUFFERS --NOT drug DEALER
TO DO..MOST ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU HAVE HAD NOTHING FROM THEM
AND DOESN'T SEEM LIKE YOU EVER WILL TO DO..

SO MY QUESTION AND PERHAPS SOMEONE WHOM KNOWS HOW TO START
THREADS COULD START ONE OF THIS NATURE OF THE HOWS, TO
EXPLAIN, HOWS, TO BE REMOVED, IS THIS PERMENT, AND HOW ONE
CONCERN, KNOWS OF OTHERS CLIETEE,?

I SURE HOPE THIS IS NOT AGAINST THE Rules TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS FOR I PROMISE I AM NOT TRYING TO BREAK ANY BODYS Rules.

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#579093 - 10/11/07 10:18 AM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: ladylisa]
ShesTheOne Offline
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Youll know you're package has been siezed if you receive a LL or 'Love Letter'. It's basically a notice of confiscation.

Here is an example of what one LL would look like:

http://www.drugbuyers.com/loveletter

Thanks for the shout out. Unfortunately, I am not sure what the rest of your post means or I'd help you.

Cheers \:D

P.S. ShesTheOne = Girly


Edited by ShesTheOne (10/11/07 10:19 AM)
Edit Reason: Fix link
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#579311 - 10/11/07 02:57 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: ShesTheOne]
ladylisa Offline
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Registered: 07/13/07
Posts: 117
Loc: East
[quote=ShesTheOne]Youll know you're package has been siezed if you receive a LL or 'Love Letter'. It's basically a notice of confiscation.

Here is an example of what one LL would look like:

http://www.drugbuyers.com/loveletter

Thanks for the shout out. Unfortunately, I am not sure what the rest of your post means or I'd help you.

Cheers \:D

P.S. ShesTheOne = Girly
[/quote

First I would like to apologize for assuming you were a fellow, I guess I came up with that thinking you had been a piliot and looking to the sky as the life you loved before
you became stricken with what ever has you ill and on these sites. Again I am sorry and would like to say hello I am ladylisa, from no wereland kinda like the scary forest in the Wizard of OZ. you remember that scene when that mean ole witch swoopes down on the foursome and toto.I am just north of there..

The rest of the post I hope some of our reps. can help us with..
of there.

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#579320 - 10/11/07 03:08 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: ladylisa]
ShesTheOne Offline
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Posts: 722
Don't think twice about it, I don't mind at all.

Peace \:D
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#580596 - 10/13/07 05:36 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: ShesTheOne]
warmweather
Unregistered


ladylisa, I'm having a hard time understanding your question. Do you want to know how to cancel with an ROP and move to another? Or is it something else?

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#588337 - 10/26/07 02:31 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: milla]
milla Offline
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Registered: 07/25/06
Posts: 28
Loc: NYC
Okay, I just received my second LL from the USCBP. However, unlike the first one, there's no doubt in my mind that this one is fraudulent (and/or bait).

Not only is this one formatted differently from the first (also now confirmed a fraud/bait), but I have absolutely no undelivered orders from any IOP.

Do they just pick your name and some meds out of a hat and send out bogus notices? Why anyone would spend 41 cents to mail something like this for no reason is beyond me. Do they really think I'll reply? How silly.

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#588913 - 10/27/07 10:50 AM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: ]
milla Offline
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Registered: 07/25/06
Posts: 28
Loc: NYC
 Originally Posted By: johnwienan47
VERY UNUSUAL. THEN AGAIN NYC IS A CRAZY PLACE SO NO TELLING WHAT IS GOING ON!!!!!!


A crazy place indeed. *nods* ...although they both originated from Miami.

I'm not sure how unusual it is, though. I've seen many posts from people who wonder about their LL's. I'm guessing a good percentage of them are as bogus as mine.

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#589214 - 10/27/07 09:52 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: ]
jpbp Offline
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Registered: 09/23/07
Posts: 997
Loc: okie
Okay, this is making me crazy-what does LL stand for and what kind of letters are you guys talking about receiving and then nothing happening?
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#589219 - 10/27/07 09:57 PM Re: I just recieved a seizure notice from customs,... [Re: jpbp]
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Registered: 09/23/07
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Loc: okie
If you want, anyone can pm me and let me know or just post the answer. PM ing might be good since I usually forget what sight I post on after a couple of days \:\)
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